We’re in the last week of November and one point separates Celtic, Inverness and Dundee United at the top of the table, with Hamilton a point behind. Dundee, who put on a credible performance yesterday, sit alongside seventh placed Kilmarnock, nine points of the pace. That’s more than half the league within nine points of the top.
Remember the day Accies relegated Hibs, and we were told how the Championship would be vastly more competitive than the Premiership this season? There’s a nine point gap at the top of the Championship, which is the least competitive senior league in Britain.
If you were an investor in a Championship team located anywhere outside Gorgie, you might be running the numbers this morning on what another season of lower league football is going to cost to fund. With ever-diminishing income I know one club who could need £30m investment to get them through another 18 months of Championship football.
The chances of than kind of money materialising are zero, no matter if they flog their properties. There will also be a structural deficit, even with Premiership football, of having a massive infrastructure to support, without European revenue, of around £10m per season.
If you are a football club in Scotland with a large infrastructure to operate, maintain, police and insure, you need significant and regular European income. The cost of funding the job to overcome domestic and European competition (all of the latter would be seeded), runs into many tens of millions.
No one has even pretended they have a viable plan to overcome such obstacles. Hope you can find the fun in financial fundamentals.
Thanks for the feedback on Caesar & the Assassin, which is available here on CQNBookstore, but… if you go here, for an extra £1.01 you can get the book and a DVD (from Cesar (sic.), 6-2 game, Road to Seville, Birthday Bhoys Beating Barca).
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BRTH
Was a great night at Celtic park. In the east terracing that night. We arrived early and went down the front. Turned around about five minutes before ko and there was no way we where getting back up to the rest of the group…
Nearly as good as the sporting Lisbon game in the jungle. That was bedlam….
hebcelt
09:46 on 25 November, 2014
KevJ when areyou going to explain your “premature brickwall” remark?? Just look back at you posts, I,m sure thee is a perfectly reasonable answer. Hail Hail Hebcelt
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Hi, as I said to you last time – show me the post and I’ll explain.
I’m not one of those ‘hung-up’ types who saves his own posts, there’s enough of those sorts on here :)
Hail Hail
An Tearmann
09:53 on
25 November, 2014
The rock garden was my local as it sold Stella Artois
The Midas was another good pub
Ah the Rock Garden, near enough lived in there in the first half of the 80s.
Dunno where 82 came from — possibly because I have another story about the return leg against Ajax in 82 and it was a toss up as to which game I would talk about so I went for the earlier one.
Anyone off out to deliver some copies of Caesar & The Assassin to the good folks of Dumbarton and Clydebank and maybe a few others in between!
Gary67
If you were in the Rock Garden at that time then I will know your face!
Did I perhaps deliver books to you yesterday?
weet weet weet(gbwo)
08:18 on 25 November, 2014
Morning all
Women’s Arse Size Study
There is a new study just released by the
British Psychiatric Association about women and how they feel about their arses.
The results are pretty shocking:
1. Only 5% of women surveyed feel their arse is too big.
2. 10% of women surveyed feel their arse is too small.
3. The remaining 85% say they don’t care; they love him; he’s a good man and they would have married him anyway.
HH
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Ha! Ha! ha! Love it. A great wee joke to start the day with. I’ll be chuckling every time I think about it. :-))
BLANTYRETIM
I reckon that was the game when my recently-converted best mate really ‘got’ Celtic.
Over thirty years later,he still does!
Also in The Jungle that night,usual place around Exit 8.
Another reason to post from youtube,I reckon.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EmS25xbk4xk
Anyone means anyway — I am giving up on this typing lark!
Latchford made 2 vg saves in the first half @ Madrid.He then made an error which led to their first goal.Typical of the man-often good, often bad.
“Peterhead have been ordered to replay their Scottish League 1 clash with Ayr United by the SPFL board after fielding an ineligible player.”
Now why not just do what UEFA does i.e. award the game to the opposition as a 3-0 victory.
Tom McLaughlin
09:45 on 25 November, 2014
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Well, whether you like it or not…it was the day, the only day that, the huns were dealt true ‘justice’ and it was done by, Celtic supporters – standing up for themselves – as the law enforcers were quite content to let the huns animals attack the – autograph hunting fraternity of the Celtic support on that day. Strange that, when the Celtic fans retaliated – police horses appeared? Don’t you think?
prestonpans bhoys
That should be happening. It’s not Ayr United’s fault that Peterhead broke the rules.
SFA/SPFL need to have a look at this rule.
LB
Anyone actually heard anything about players we are looking at for January? I’m guessing we will be focusing on a left back, defensive midfielder and (most importantly) a playmaker. Unusual that there hasn’t been much in the papers!!
As mentioned in previous pages there are lots that can go!! Kayal, Bitton (if he can’t dislodge Mulgrew….time to go), Pukki, Berget, Boerrighter, Tonev, Balde, Fridjohnsson, Ambrose (although we would need a replacement), Commons (if we can get a younger, fitter playmaker) etc.
LiviBhoy
09:35 on 25 November, 2014
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I always worry about ‘those’ games – always.
I hope yer cockiness disny come back tae bite ye:)
HH
BRTH et al,
thanks for the stories re the Madrid game.
I remember listening to the game (and the away leg) on the radio as a skelf of a 9 year old.
Funnily enough about the only part i remember well was George McCluskey’s miss in that away game.
How Fate’s fickle finger can change the course of history, particularly for an individual?
Had his “goal” stood in the first game, his miss in the 2nd could well have meany nothing, as it was…..
Its a shame, as I think as many celtic supporters associate George for that miss as much as his winner in the ’80 Cup Final!
A good servant to the club and still there in a coaching capacity nowadays.
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
meant* not meany….
prestonpans bhoys
10:00 on 25 November, 2014
“Peterhead have been ordered to replay their Scottish League 1 clash with Ayr United by the SPFL board after fielding an ineligible player.”
Now why not just do what UEFA does i.e. award the game to the opposition as a 3-0 victory.
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Bizarre. Surely, no matter what way you cut it, if a team fields a player that shouldn’t be playing then that team should forfeit the match. I know there may be leeway for discretion in the rules but how does this make sense?
I would like to think I’d be big enough to take the same stance if it was Celtic fielded a player that should not have been playing.
Usually lurk but spooky CQN talking about this game I found my program and ticket stub from the game in the loft the other night Laurie Cunningham on cover haha
1980 2-0 RM game one of my all time favourites stood behind No2 @ celtic end bedlam at the Johnny Doyle goal
Great memories
Rayo Vallecano – great story
Contrast – Ian Black
KevJungle – Walk-on in the Jungle is magic, just magic
There is a difference between cockiness and confidence. Hearts missing 3 of their top players beat them easy.
Sunday is a bench mark for us on that level of football. Let’s discuss again on Monday.
LB
Hrvatski Jim
10:11 on 25 November, 2014
Rayo Vallecano – great story
Contrast – Ian Black
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To be fair that first sentence could be literally anything followed with “Contract – Ian Black” and people would still be sitting nodding away…
He’s a bad, bad man.
prestonpans bhoy,
i was sure that was the rule regardless of which league or competition?
ie lose the game 3-0.
However was there not a game involving Dunfermline in the cup a few seasons back, where there was a bit of a furore re ineligible player(s) and a replay was ordered rather than 3-0 win to opposition?
I cant remember the details now, but seem to recall something along these lines.
Did that maybe set a precendent?
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
LiviBhoy
10:11 on 25 November, 2014
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Celtic going to Tyncastle with a ‘handful’ of fans….hmmmm?
See ye on Monday – Hail Hail
Chores to do – CSC
Bye CQN.
KevJ said:
I’m not one of those ‘hung-up’ types who saves his own posts, there’s enough of those sorts on here :)
You think that’s bad? There’s a sad git on here who has saved a copy of every one of my posts on CQN, plus my comments on the Scotsman and the BBC forum going back 12 years :-)
Tom McLaughlin
10:15 on 25 November, 2014
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Hehe hehe :)
Who needs a stalker ? – CSC
Bye this time.
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hh
See the Peterheid v Ayr replay thingy
Did i not hear on Clyde this morning that Peterheid
manager ex Celt Jim Mcinally had said we called the SFA
and asked if said player was eligible for game.
They assured us he was.
SFA have no record of this phone call.
KevJungle – Walk-on in the Jungle is magic, just magic
I suggest you watch Sevco as well and then explain why we should be afraid. They are rotten!
12k tickets have been sold so far for Sunday. The Jambo’s will buy more this weekend. Monthly pay day for most is Friday it certainly is for me. I suspect more tickets will be sold.
I don;t see what difference the crowd makes though.
LB
Hrvatski Jim/Davidopolous,
I just dont get Ian Black as a player (lets ignore him as a human off the pitch). What does he actually bring to a team, apart from kicking opponents? (how often he gets away with it too thanks to the MIBbery though)
Seriously how does he ever get a game?
I dont think i have ever seen him do anything that could even be construed as the slightest bit constructive on the pitch.
Hes an empty jersey as far as Im concerned.
Except for the aforementioned kicking and MIBbery i would be delighted if he plays against us in the LC Semi as he is useless as a player. The damage he could cause to our players though is a concern.
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
I’d ‘replay’ the cup game as if it was a second leg, with ayr winning 3-0.
Then clarify rules.
The way I read it was that the replay of the game between Ayr and Peterhead is an SFA judgement, and that Peterhead asked the SFA if the said player was on there banned list for that game, and the SFA told them that the player was clear to play,.
But the SFA are saying they have no evidence of any phone call, text, or e mail of that statement.
I’m kinda leaning towards the Peterhead version, well there is previouses right?
malorbhoy
This may be of interest to you:-)
http://www.sconews.co.uk/opinion/41648/cross-wires-sunday-breaking-news-30/
HH
livibhoy
09:18 on 25 November, 2014
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Havent saw duffy play but father doesnt miss a home game and he said hes very quick and can finish.. Not sure if good enough for celtic so could end up similar to niall mcginn.
Worth a look anyway.
P.s
Downloaded the agassi book on kindle after you mentioned it.. If your looking for a new book i just finished alan o’loughlin different shade of green. Good read so it was.
BRTH 09:31
I remember it well, including wee Johnny’s header, God rest him.
I also remember the return leg. It was my first European away adventure. Most fans travelled by bus to Europe in those days. There was no bus going from any of the Edinburgh Supporters clubs, including our own…..so 3 of us responded to an advert in The View and travelled on the Garngad bus, which was an experience and a half for a young Embra bhoy. It’s fair to say that the few rebel songs I didn’t know all the words to at that time, then I certainly knew them at the end of that trip.
We left Garngad at 8am on the Monday morning, travelled to Portsmouth and got the ferry to St Malo overnight and travelled thru France on the Tuesday. We stopped overnight in the Basque country and received a warm welcome from the locals, then set out for Madrid on the Wednesday.
We’d been talking about getting to the Bernabeau, maybe getting a tour, taking photos and generally soaking up the atmosphere in the hours leading up to the game.
Naw.
The Garngad bus didn’t operate that way. These bhoys had been to so many away European games, it was like going to Dundee for them as regards how they worked their timings out, stopping for a bevy on the way etc.
We parked up at the Bernabeau 30 minutes before the game so the Stadium Tour definitely wisnae on!
Sadly a place in the semi finals wisnae on either. Chicken George missed a good chance but the killer was Madrid scoring right before half time to go in 1-0 ahead, I think most of us feared the worst then, and so it proved.
We had to contend with the stormy Bay of Biscay on the way back, sailing from Santander right to Plymouth – we thought we couldn’t be any more sick from the result but that trip took us right up to the bile and beyond.
Anyway, I wasn’t a European Away Virgin any more – thanks to the Garngad Bhoys.
proudbhoy
Thanks for that mate.
I have Different Shade of Green on my wish list. Going to check it out soon. Been busy the last few days so only half way through Agassi. Hope you enjoy it. The first chapter had me gripped. I think it’s a cracking read.
LB
If a replay means that the team which played an ineligible player goes on to record a victory when previously they had lost, would that be fair?
Or wouldn’t a replay have been ordered had Peterhead lost? I’m confused.