It’s all politics. Not actual politics, in the strict definition of the word, but clubs’ dealings with the SPFL and SFA is mostly about politically manoeuvring in the direction to win your argument.
Experienced political operators will tell you not to fight the same people on too many points; pick the important areas to win and take a few defeats on the chin. Box the SPFL into a corner by not charging season ticket holders for entry into play-off matches, and you’re onto a sure win. But all SPFL clubs are members of the SFA.
They all like being given their place. If I wanted something important from the SFA, like exemption from the rule prohibiting directors of a liquidated club from subsequently becoming a club director, I’d concentrate on that and ask politely for permission to let season ticket holders into games.
But I realise there are different types of political animal. The consensus political animal is effective in certain times, then there are those who have a self-righteous tone to rules. It’s their way or the highway. To paraphrase Bob Shankly, pure, athletic, Thatcherism. Britain wasn’t ready for Thatcherism 30 years ago. She won in 1979 and lost lots of votes second time around in ’83, but the Labour vote split. The 80s were lean. For some.
Scottish football is in for a period where a self-righteous entity will muster its forces. The media coverage will reflect what we saw in politics in the 80s. The consensus operators must stand firm and unite.
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Good lord, what a tragedy for the young mans family. RIP.
Weefra HH praying to Wee Oscar.
Ernie Lynch
I think you know what my point is. Incidently, I don’t define myself by nationality.
As is the way on CQN. For now. Oot!
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Nae luck to the wee team in the league.
Will McInnes remain at the Dons in the close season?
Championship or better beckons for him I think.
For anyone on here dissing Nicola Sturgeon,do so at your peril.I hear some still waffling on about Salmond!!!!!!!!!.He is nothing but an MP now.The wee barra will wring the necks of Cameron,or Milliband to get the best deal possible for the people of Scotland.That is her objective.
The other two know this and are appalled.The Tories have been neglecting us for untold years,as we dont vote them really.The Labour Party has been treating us with contempt for decades,because,as the misguided North East Girl said,”You should vote the way your parents did”What utter cack.Thats the reason they treat you as if you are a second class citizen.No brains,just follow like sheep.
For anyone thinking that the Huns will vote SNP,take a look at Hun Media.Frothing at the mouth at the thought of them ruling Scotland.
I did not want to get involved in the politics,but listening to NE Girl,and the blog idiot,Neganon,had to have my say.
Herbo
16:35 on 30 April, 2015
I don’t know what your point is and I suspect you don’t either.
No surprises from the not fit for purpose SFA but I want them to explain which part of Gudetti’s dity was considered offensive and by whom.
Weefra,
I’m sure it nothing to do with concessions and more to do with the area you sit in.
The same clause has been in renewals for years now
HH
http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/celtic/319024-celtic-striker-john-guidetti-censured-by-scottish-fa-for-offensive-song/
Can’t see what part of the song they found offensive, I’ll need to go over to a hun board to find out as this place is off limits for football talk until the zealots are shouted in for their tea….
Okay chieftain
Ah so the SFA, in common with scotland, has decided that telling the truth is illegal as is insulting words towards followers of a certain team.
Is t it marvellous. Any insults towards a certain team in scotland are deemed illegal and sectarian but it’s okay to tell the irish the famine is over and they should go home.
What a country, what a corrupt football association.
We now await celtics response. Will it be pathetic silence again? Or will they actually take the SFA on?
Don’t hold your breathe.
Weefra,
Also, That’s some hike. Are you reading it right? :)
HH
Turkeybhoy
16:36 on 30 April, 2015
‘The wee barra will wring the necks of Cameron,or Milliband to get the best deal possible for the people of Scotland.That is her objective.’
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No. Her objective is to get Scotland out of the UK. That’s what’s she’s in politics for.
Incidentally I love the way you nats refer to ‘the people of Scotland’ as if we all have same, congruent interests, but at the same time like to pretend that the SNP is some kind of socialist party.
Truly, you have more faces than a town hall clock.
Ernie
You have such a nasty wee way about you when you talk to folk.
Erudite, dry, witty. But quite snidey.
I hope/suspect you wouldn’t speak that way to folk if you met them in person.
Laters timdom
HH jamesgang
…………..interesting that…………the Herlad cites JG’s the use of the Hun word and not the corect assertion that the aforesaidmentioned currants were pan-breid……..
Hmmmmmmmmmmm.
I smell shite.
Hunguffery at a whole new Level.
in ither news…………………………………….The budding javelin thrower must be getting some guid cover from that famous “St Mirren Fan”, eh!
Guidetti censured by @ScottishFA
http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish_fa_news.cfm?page=2566&newsCategoryID=1&newsID=14687 …
bankiebhoy1
Hadn’t even realised is been charged!
My! Focus are getting Uber efficient!
HH jamesgang
GM
Allegedly I now sit in a prime seat. That’s the reason for such a hike. Been in the same seat for years, but it suddenly becomes a prime seat.
Weefra HH praying to Wee Oscar.
Another small step in the Hun campaign to get the word Hun deemed offensive and sectarian,
UNLESSSSSSSSSSSS he was censored for making fun of another club,by LAUGHING
#Celtic striker John Guidetti found guilty by @ScottishFA for offensive comment relating to #Rangers and given warning.
So no sectarian offence took place Re JG Hun song.
The usual suspects all over the blog now,Ernie Lynch,Neganon,and a new recruit,North East Girl.
I am off.
C’mon the Hoops tomorrow night.
Oh,and wee Manny on Saturday.
How p**s poor must Celtics lawyers be?
My reply to the SFA about their decision ..
Embramike @embramike 54s55 seconds ago
@ScottishFA What’s offensive about the truth? The huns are deid,.and neither the words ‘huns’ or ‘deid’ are offensive. Indefensible decision
Knew my nom de blog would get to the wee souls at Hampdump and Ibrokes !
Hope the club appeal and ask where the offense is !
Perhaps it’s on the basis that you shouldn’t speak ill of the deid? Which would at least confirm deidness.
“Is t it marvellous. Any insults towards a certain team in scotland are deemed illegal and sectarian but it’s okay to tell the irish the famine is over and they should go home.”
Neganon,
Our fans sing about huns with no problems.
Which member of the sfa has been caught on camera singing the famine song?
Now before anyone gets all confused I don’t think jg shoulda even made it before the beaks but to compare his case with thousands of supporters singing something else is just stupid imo.
Leftclicktic, at times like this we miss JP McBride. He’d have called them out.
Do they announce Dave King is fit and proper on the same day?
Turkeybhoy,
You’re entitled to your opinion as I am, but at no time did I say that I was brought up to vote the way my father did. I was raised to respect peoples opinion and was quite capable of voting with my own conscience.
As for Sturgeon, you will reap what you sow when the old argument “It’s our oil” runs out and Scotland have nothing else to offer.
You have your opinion but I am allowed mine.
The SFA site makes no mention of the word Hun……….just summit Offensive…….
Hmmmmmmmmmm.
Scoddish shite………….
The boul’ Darryl does his bit to get the Big Headline on the telly the nicht…….
We must appeal,but not holding my breath…..
Any explanation of offensive comment – can we still call them ugly?
bankiebhoy1
There was talk of there being a bit in the rules about making fun of another club.
Six pages of shite and only now do I get to the information about John Guidetti.
Soooooo, what exactly has he been sensured for?
oglach
13:01 on 30 April, 2015
Struggling to find a party I would give my vote to.
………………..
Surely with that moniker it has to be the DUP ? ;-)
Here are the words for those of us who want to support our team in tomorrow night’s game against Dundee, which is live on SkySports TV …
There’s only one John Guidetti
He puts the ball in the nettie
He’s our big Swede and the huns are deid
Walking in Guidetti wonderland
Sing up bhoys !!!!
But apparently’ f u rankers, the farts have won the league’ is not offensive. Perhaps John should have a go at this wee ditty in the public interest of finding out?
HH
Please Mr Enforcement SFA Man.
Can you tell me what songs are acceptable from those that currently do the rounds?
What sobriquets are acceptable, you know the ones to fling at the fans of the team you might be playing against on Saturday?
Can you confirm that your secret policy is to have lots of happy, smiling folk with rosy red cheeks all waving scarves at senior Scottish association football matches……., but that they must remain silent unless they shout/sing from your approved songbook/names to call your opponents book?
Can you explain why you put more work into stopping fans sing and enjoy the game than you do in stopping the criminal classes from controlling the clubs in Scotland?
Can you explain why there is such uncertainty over the game in Scotland, on and off the field – you know since you are the governing organization and ultimate authority for the game in Scotland?
Can you explain why Livingston get punished for an offence that your President, Campbell Ogilvie and Professional Board member Jim Ballantyne and the Chairman of Cowdenbeath Donald Findlay all committed yet for which they escaped any sanction?
Just asking.
HH
So Scotland has nothing to offer but the old ” its our oil” arguement…nice…