It’s all politics. Not actual politics, in the strict definition of the word, but clubs’ dealings with the SPFL and SFA is mostly about politically manoeuvring in the direction to win your argument.
Experienced political operators will tell you not to fight the same people on too many points; pick the important areas to win and take a few defeats on the chin. Box the SPFL into a corner by not charging season ticket holders for entry into play-off matches, and you’re onto a sure win. But all SPFL clubs are members of the SFA.
They all like being given their place. If I wanted something important from the SFA, like exemption from the rule prohibiting directors of a liquidated club from subsequently becoming a club director, I’d concentrate on that and ask politely for permission to let season ticket holders into games.
But I realise there are different types of political animal. The consensus political animal is effective in certain times, then there are those who have a self-righteous tone to rules. It’s their way or the highway. To paraphrase Bob Shankly, pure, athletic, Thatcherism. Britain wasn’t ready for Thatcherism 30 years ago. She won in 1979 and lost lots of votes second time around in ’83, but the Labour vote split. The 80s were lean. For some.
Scottish football is in for a period where a self-righteous entity will muster its forces. The media coverage will reflect what we saw in politics in the 80s. The consensus operators must stand firm and unite.
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You do read some amount of shit on here at times…I think you should all take a couple of minutes and read back as I’ve just done, roll on next Friday….
Out to pick the wife up from work, her nonsense now seems quite attractive to the drivel on here….
Please, please hurry up with the JG verdict. Give us something to discuss instead of this election. I come on here to get away from it on TV. Anyway I’ve voted already by post so I canny chance my mind.
Ernie
The party most likely to ensure another Tory led govt is the libdems surely? They have stated they’ll deal with anyone. Best tactic for a week to go must be to oust libdems so they can’t support the Tories. But, as we saw earlier, Labour are supporting tactically voting for a Tory supporting Libdem in a number of seats.
Mmmmmmmmmm.
HH
THE EXILED TIM
15:12 on
30 April, 2015
If the 3bears have coughed up ,Thats a million each they are owed.
not counting the 800k they coughed up for shares,
i’m sure the Mrs Bears or latest flames will be delighted
Change not chance
Gotta run, the motorways await, but I’m sorted for tickets.
Herbo
15:15 on
30 April, 2015
Bawsman
However, I’ve seen some unionist rhetoric that surprises me.
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The word “Unionist” is used on here to demonise me and those like me who prefer to unite rather than divide, it is a deliberate attempt to stain by association with the scumbags in George Square, doesn’t surprise in the least.
The shrill tone of hate and vitriol used by many seperatists/yes voters/SNP against folk who have the temerity to hold a different view is shocking.
My own wee sister even accused our parents (and me) of being stupid because we defeated her wish lists with logic and simple facts of reality, eg.you can’t have independence without control of your currency etc.
You canny argue with some.
Serie A.
Rube’ s Curva Sud to be shut for 2 Serie A games in punishment for the throwing of explosive devices at last weekend’s Turin derby.6 Rube Ultras have been arrested and charged re the throwing of explosive devices within a crowded space.3 of those 6 are already subject to orders banning them from attending any football match in Italy and have been charged with breaching those orders.
Rube fined 50 k euros in punishment for their fans’ behaviour before , during and after last weekend’s Turin derby.
Torino fined 50 k euros in punishment for their fans’ behaviour before , during and after last weekend ‘s Turin derby.
Kitalba. Glad you’re sorted.
Delaney’s
Leftie
Thanks
HH jamesgang
BGX deal.
Bawsman
15:55 on
30 April, 2015
My own wee sister even accused our parents (and me) of being stupid because we defeated her wish lists with logic and simple facts of reality, eg.you can’t have independence without control of your currency etc.
You canny argue with some.
Are the countries who use the Euro as their currency independent countries ?
Ah! Paul67,
The ’83 general election, the first one I could vote in.
Certainly a large dollop of realpolitik in that encounter.
Margaret Thatcher’s waining popularity would certainly not have withstood the careless loosing of some South Atlantic Islands.
Of course we hadn’t really heard of them in the main but if the locals were sticking Guerra de las Malvinas on their addresses it wouldn’t have looked good. So we had a war, of course we didn’t call it a war at the time and officially it wasn’t. We’ll not until we’d “won” it.
Then there’s the aul Labour Party, about to vote for for a new leader, the script was, they vote in by far the most accomplished politician in the country as leader but something went terribly wrong.
At that time Dennis Healy could be assured of right wing of the Labour Party while Michael Foot had the left, as DH was highly popular with the centre of the party it was a shoe in, right.
Wrong, see there was a conspiracy on the right wing of the Labour Party and many of those labour MPs had decided to split from Labour and start their own Party. So they voted for Michael Foot to send the Labour Party to the left, leaving a gap in the centre ground of British Politics for their new party – The Social Democrats.
So, the coast was clear for Mrs Thatcher to call a timely election and romp home to victor.
Interesting times eh!
Get the feeling it’s not a patch on Scottish Football”s realpolitik though.
A parcel o’rogues right Enuff.
Hail Hail
Bawsman
I’ll not kid you on. I despise the British state and everything that entails. Id like to think though I’m ok with differing views, especially when I can tell those views come from the right place.
Onwards to revolution:-)
lionroars67
16:04 on
30 April, 2015
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You want to join the Euro? To be fair Alex Salmond was for it too.
Does anybody know the link to the football chat on CQN?
Bawsman
16:08 on
30 April, 2015
My own wee sister even accused our parents (and me) of being stupid because we defeated her wish lists with logic and simple facts of reality, eg.you can’t have independence without control of your currency etc.
You canny argue with some
With all due respect you posted how stupid a family member of yours was for not knowing the simple economic fact according to you that a country cannot consider itself an independent country unless it controls its own currency, i hope i have clearly stated your point and haven’t misrepresented it in anyway
Now can you answer the original question with a direct answer please
Are the countries who use the Euro as their currency independent countries ?
Democracy is the illusion of choice, it’s all one big donut shop, plenty of different flavours to pick from, but no pizza. Sure you can talk to the manager, possibly even complain, maybe even get an extra donut for your troubles. You will never speak to the proprietors.
Hail Hail.
Yes,great article on the mag regards the gates of Ibrox,be good if FF and RM were a bit less insular and let us post it on their sites,maybe there’s a hun or two looking in who would like to debate the Ibrox Gates article……
Cue tumbleweed.
lionroars67
16:15 on
30 April, 2015
Are the countries who use the Euro as their currency independent countries ?
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Yes
How did the weans get on against Falkirk?
Celtic’s 0-0 with Falkirk means Aberdeen have been confirmed as SPFL Development League Champions.
Bawsman
16:21 on
30 April, 2015
lionroars67
16:15 on
30 April, 2015
Are the countries who use the Euro as their currency independent countries ?
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Yes
Thank you
The Republic of Ireland uses the Euro as its currency, does Ireland control its currency ?
lionroars67
16:15 on
30 April, 2015
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You did misepresent me BTW, it was my sister calling me and my parents stupid, I would never call anyone stupid, especially friends and/or family.
The Republic of Ireland uses the Euro as its currency, does Ireland control its currency ?
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No
Tomorrow evening could be the last time Celtic play at Home this season as contenders for the title. Any views?
JJ
Guidetti:
Disciplinary Rule(s) allegedly breached:
Disciplinary Rule 73: In that on or around 6th March 2015 you did in the course of a interview given to the Dutch Television Programme FC Rijnmond, make comment of an offensive nature
Outcome: The player was found in breach and censured.
Just been reading on twitter that games v thems next season will not be on consession STs. That’s if they are still with us. Can anyone confirm this. My renewal cost me £344. Up £145.
Weefra HH praying to Wee Oscar.
Tomorrow night WILL be the last time we play at home as contenders for this season’s title. We’ll have it won by the next time we’re at home.
ConfidentnotcomplacentCSC
I’m having to go pick my grandaughter up from after school club as the Daughter is at the hospital with the grandson getting grommits put in…..laters. HH
One comment.
I am 64 ( soon be 65 )I have never voted for anyone, anytime , anywhere.Decided in my teens that nobody could represent me better than I could..
General Elections = sheep choosing their butcher..
Honesty requires me to state that had I been living in Scotland , I would have registered to vote and would have voted No – the reason – what was on offer was the biggest and smelliest pig in a poke I ‘ve ever seen./whiffed.
Belgian football Gregory Mertens has died of heart failure three days after collapsing on the pitch. May God rest his soul, just a young man.
Herbo
16:08 on 30 April, 2015
‘I despise the British state and everything that entails.’
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But Scotland is an integral part of the British state, and Scotland, as a country, benefited from being part of the British state.
And the Scots played their part (by all accounts a disproportionate part) in all the excesses carried out by the British state.
So what exactly is your point?
JJ
I think we’ll be crowned champs at old tawdry pittodrie.
HH jamesgang
Poor child.
RIP
HH jamesgang
Bawsman
15:55 on
30 April, 2015
My own wee sister even accused our parents (and me) of being stupid because we defeated her wish lists with logic and simple facts of reality, eg.you can’t have independence without control of your currency etc.
You canny argue with some.
Bawsman
16:26 on
30 April, 2015
The Republic of Ireland uses the Euro as its currency, does Ireland control its currency ?
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No
You’re arguing with yourself Bawsman
Safe driving enjour day
So Guidetti got a slap in the wrists.
There must be an awful lot of hurt at the SFA these days.
Poor fellows.
Guidetti guilty. What a surprise. He plays for us. That’s enough to convict him in Scotland.
Way beyond a joke, of course. What rule did he break, by the way? Did they simply one up to get at him? I mean when you come up with “on the balance of probablities” anything is feasible.