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“Really robust offer” is apparently a euphemism for “Can’t believe they would pay that much”, following the transfer of Jeremie Frimpong to Bayer Leverkusen.  The player is still only 20, with several development years ahead, but I doubt any of us set his valuation in this bracket.

At times this season I referred to Jeremie as our MVP (after his demolition of Hibs in September) and lamented the lack of end product comparable to Kristofer Ajer, when the adaptable central defender plays right back.

The failure to get crosses into the box by full backs on both wings, at the level Kris can apparently achieve, has been one of Celtic’s critical failures this season.  Come what may in the summer, we would have attempted to recruit an improvement, with or without Jeremie, who remains more potential than actual.

There is a major rebuilding job ahead, but with only the Scottish Cup a practical target this season, Neil Lennon is unlikely to see much of the reported £11.5m (before Man City’s cut) this week.

Good luck to you, Jeremie.

Loved the way we whipped the ball around last night.

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  2. dessybhoy on

    There is no doubt Celtic have and have had very good players , right now we do not have a team , we need someone to build the squad/ team through proper recruitment of the right types of players for positions in the team, we need a coach or coaches to develop them, a team work ethic throughout the whole team and bench and a tactical awareness of how to work offensively and defensively, fitness especially needs upped as we need to be so much fitter as a whole goup, get Ajeti fit and a bit lighter then see what we have at Centre Forward, he looks to me like a penalty box striker but he can take a chance.

     

    So if we got someone in with a 3 to 5 year plan to do this would it be acceptable providing that progress was being made, also a big decision needs to be made about the academy, it is not producing for Celtic Football Club in my opinion.

     

    An experienced Director of Football would be beneficial to oversee all that, not just for players but for our coaches physios etc to keep them developing and stop this apparent lack of options when the man in the hot seat is not doing it.Surely our Academy should be producing not just players but Coaches who are capable of being the next Head Coach or Directors of Fotball if not why not, it should not be a cushy job for life at Lennoxtown.

     

    A prerequisite must be the Chief Executive or Senior board man does not interfere in the Football side of the club.

  3. glendalystonsils on

    67 EUROPEAN CUP WINNERS on 28TH JANUARY 2021 2:55 PM

     

     

    Ajeti ? £5M? Don’t be daft , who in their right mind and with any kind of decent scouting would pay that kind ofmoney for a fat haddie .

     

     

    Oh ……..wait a minute!

  4. setting free the bears for Res. 12 & Oscar Knox on

    I am in the minority camp, yet again, in assessing Greg Taylor as clearly being less impact-ful as a LB than Diego Laxalt is.

     

     

    I acknowledge, and I did so early in the game last night, that he had a much more productive and useful game than usual and deserved to be in or close to most people’s top 3 perfomers.

     

     

    If we can avoid “lighthouse thinking”, thoug, we can see from Jobo’s MOTM nominatins that nobody thinks Greg has performed well consistently when selected. In contrast, Laxalt, has consistently received high number of contemporary nominations but is now being judged harshly, in retropect, because of two fouls committed that led to goals conceded because we are hopeless on set pieces currently.

     

     

    Now, I acknowledge that both players ahve serious flaws. Laaxalt, for me is inspirational, drives a team on and loves a tackle. He is a much more physical player than greg Taylor and less easily bullied. Like Izaguirre, however, he gets caught upfield too often and he concedes those cynical fouls because he is used to having defenders with him who can deal with the threat from “innocuous” wide delivery set pieces. Laxalt is a Uruguayan international who earned a transfer to AC Milan and is operating at a higher level than Greg Taylor has yet shown he is capable of reaching.

     

     

    Taylor is a tidy and conscientious player. I am not comvinced that he is a LB not a wing back. I fear he is merely adequate in both roles. He is not fast enough to go past anyone or keep pace with a fast winger but he does have undoubted stamina. He is not physical enough in tackling (Laxalt wins more ball) and he is fairly ineffective in stopping crosses and very ineffective in delivering them (in most matches with us). Greg Taylor is a steady Eddie, a bit like Mark Reid or Andy Lynch (without the penalty taking prowess of either of them), or like Lewis Stevenston at Hibs. Competent but not outstanding.

     

     

    Having assessed them like this, you might be surprised to learn that I am not in favour of keeping Laxalt and I might be open to keeping taylor, albeit as a useful back up. I think the price of £9m quoted by AC is too rish for the level of upgrade it gives us. We have already paid the £3m for Taylor who is a B minus level of player. To commit £9m for a player who is probably more B than B plus does not seem worth it to me.

     

     

    But, if Celtic are to improve, we ned better than a B minus level player. If Taylor has that improvement in him, we should stick with him but at 23, I doubt the passing and the cross prevention can improve significantly. That might explain our interes in Doig at Hibs. He is definitely not an improvement on Taylor but, at 18, having broken into the Hibs team, he must be of interest. However, I believe there must be Barisic like options out there in Central and Eastern Europe who are better than the current crop of young Scots whoc ould be our future number 1 choice LB.

     

     

    Meanwhile , our need for CB cover has never been greater. Shane Duffy will do a necessary job of dealing with the aerial bombardment we are gonna be subject to until we get better at dealing with it but, with Jullien out injured and, I suspect, pining to move on, and Ajer almost certain to go for big bucks, we need, at least 3 ready made competent footabll playing CBs between now and the summer rebuild. I hope to see, at least, 2 arrive in the next few days for this priority position

  7. glendalystonsils on

    SFTB

     

     

    Good point about Laxalt being blamed for giving away free kicks leading to goals . I dropped him out of my top three Jobo picks despite him having a a good game a couple of weeks ago , for that very reason. A free kick 40+ yards out should not be a serious threat on our goal . Duffy did the same at Livingston .

     

     

    Difficult to compare Taylor with Laxalt as , despite playing LB they are very different in style . If I had to lose one though , I would also keep Taylor but only as back up . He would certainly have been in my top 3 last night BTW.

  8. Go tell the Spartim on

    SFTB

     

     

    I hope your right with two new arrivals, whoever they are, we need to see how the play before we right them off, and even then a proper coaching / style of play etc would be needed to get the best out of them. Any purchases this window will need longer than the run in to judge, who knows what proper coaching could do

  9. mncelt on

    I don’t know if I would have used the word robust, but it is a spectacular piece of business by those idiots that run our club. 300k to 11.5m in how many months?. Not only can we not spot a player, we can’t develop them to the point another top club is willing to pay us almost 40x our initial investment. Yet still this is spun as a negative by most on here. I wish Jeremie all the best but I would not be surprised if this is the start of merry go round of loan moves for him in the coming years. He’s just not physical enough to make it at the highest level. Time will tell.

  12. Coneybhoy on

    ERNIE LYNCH on 28TH JANUARY 2021 2:19 PM

     

    CONEYBHOY on 28TH JANUARY 2021 1:59 PM

     

    i wonder how Leverkusen scouted Frimpong. ‘

     

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    Who knows. But good scouts will be able to spot potential. And the best place to find unrealised potential is at an underperforming and dysfunctional club.

     

    The valuation may have been be influenced by Kieran Tierney having more or less doubled in value in under a year just by playing with better players in a better league.

     

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    Thanks Ernie, very good point on Tierney; who was probably scouted due to Robertson (and CL perfs)

  13. fanadpatriot on

    How many scouts ,looking at first team potential,does Celtic have.

     

    Do we just phone up certain agents and ask them who they have on their books.

     

    You cannot tell me that there is not a LB out there better than Taylor or CH better than what we have.

     

    Scandinavian,Croatia,Serbia ,Poland ,Etc ets.,surely there are players in these leagues that should be looked at.

  25. glendalystonsils on

    FOURSTONECOPPI

     

     

    Clancy should be tied to a chair and made to watch those clips until he admits he bottled both decisions .

  26. !!Bada Bing!! on

    Bottom line, there are better left backs out there than Taylor and Laxalt, I think Laxalt is a left midfielder BTW….

  29. Bhoy From The Boyne on

    Bada Bing,

     

     

    Listened to the scouting report pod that the Cynics did on Ben Pearson couple weeks back and glad he went to Bournemouth tbh.

  30. lets all do the huddle on

    the refs have made it clear that they are unwilling to referee games involving sevco in line with the rules

     

     

    its a mixture of some out and out huns reffing their games, and others just being shit scared of the klan backlash involving gerrard, their pr department and the hun media backing them up

     

     

    what a sad state of affairs

     

     

    back in the day it was mainly just hun refs we had to worry about

     

     

    very sinister indeed

  32. !!Bada Bing!! on

    BHOY FROM THE BOYNE- Preston is my English team, long story, but I watch them when on TV,Pearson not bad,gets about the pitch well,a bit of a rash tackler though. HH

  33. stebhoy on

    I don’t know much about Davis – another site had him down as 6.1 winning 51% areal battles , fairs better in the tackle. I’m not convinced by the stats and moreover not confident the current recruitment strategy for celtic is effective.

     

     

    We are WOEFUL at set pieces and I don’t know how Davis helps fix that!!

     

     

    Anyone here tell us what qualities he has – organizational , leadership , speed …?? please!!

  34. geebee1978 on

    A couple of points from today’s news.

     

     

    Looks like we’re signing Ben Davies. If it’s true we’re restructuring the footballing department, who’s making the decision to sign him and why?

     

     

    Secondly, odds slashed today on Alex Neil. I know that this might not mean much but it’d be interesting to hear the views of those who think Eddie Howe isn’t good enough or wonder about the fact he’s never “won” anything.

     

     

    Or are points one and two somehow related?

  35. geebee1978 on

    !!BADA BING!! on 28TH JANUARY 2021 4:09 PM

     

     

    I heard Tim Vickery talking about Laxalt when he signed for us. Said he had a great set of lungs and would be good to have a round the squad but certainly isn’t a left-back. Sounds like he was spot-on.

  36. stebhoy on

    My issue is no longer the the refereeing standards and clear difference in the application of the rules of the game. We have players kicked all over the park (frimpong, forrest , tierney eg) without protection!

     

     

    Its up to the sideline coaches to react – over-react! its up to the board to openly challenge the inconsistency

     

     

    There ONLY board member I recall with any balls is Fergus McCann!

     

     

    The current standards account for arguably a swing of about 10 points this season – no excuses for rangers leading the league – but the refs have helped their momentum and points total – no doubts!

  37. Gene on

    Got a phone call at 2pm – offered a vaccine appointment just after 4pm.

     

     

    In and out in 10 mins

     

     

    Astra zeneca vaccine – might get a second one if these Europeans don’t hijack them. That’s if they ever approve it 🤭

  38. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    I’ve been a critic of Taylor but thought he did well last night.

     

     

    I think SFTB’s analysis is fairly sound.

     

     

    But, if wee Greg could

     

     

    – hit the gym at midnight (a la Dedryck)

     

    – add 5-7kgs of muscle

     

    – find an extra ¼ yard of pace ?

     

     

    I think he’d probably hold the LB position.

     

     

    Hail hail

     

     

    Keep The Faith

  40. dessybhoy on

    John Reid was outspoken at times but I wonder what or who silenced him, something strange about that or maybe it was his own political ambitions that led to him leaving, then we got Bankier, never a Celtic supporter and maybe something much worse, who is silent on everything other than at AGM time when heleads this, other than this what does this guy do?

  41. !!Bada Bing!! on

    Gene- good news all round, hopefully vaccine programme can get stepped up,Johnson and Johnson vaccine should be good to go in a couple of weeks, one dose,and can be kept at domestic fridge temperature

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