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  1. setting free the bears

     

     

    21:35 on 31 March, 2013

     

     

     

     

    Or maybe NFL had forgotten to put his watch forward and didn’t realise the correct time?

     

     

    I’m a bit like that with the clock in the car. I normally get round to changing it about August.

  2. ncludinibilia == Including memorabilia pictures

     

    DEARY DEARY me cant blame fancy phone or drink for my bad typing

  3. G64

     

     

    You know I’m not one to criticise but I really was scunnered with that showing today.

     

     

    I’m really appreciative and full of admiration for what Lenny has done this season but some of his decisions are still bewildering and many of the players are taking large wage packets for piss poor effort.

  4. The SFL are squabbling over a few grand from the Hun hordes

     

     

    A fairly desperate attempt at advancing Sevco

     

     

    No wonder Scottish football is in the state it’s in if the chairmen of the clubs are so myopic

  5. gordybhoy64

     

    The SPL vote on April 15th

     

    if 11 vote for it then goes to SFL where 75% agreement is needed.

     

    So far it is still a goer even withstanding Longmuir and Ballantynes best efforts to wreck it on behalf of sevco.

  6. HT

     

    unfortunately today’s performance was far from a one of

     

     

    In fact , it’s been the norm of late

  7. Sftb

     

     

    I think h) was closer to the truth ;-)

     

     

    Is there logic in bringing him on with less than 3 mins on the clock?

  8. Leftclicktic,

     

    Cheers for the reply,thought my post was invisible,where does the reference to a 14-14 vote come from,or did I misread the article

  9. The Boy Jinky on

    Just seen that sunderland have appointed di canio on a two and half year contract

     

     

    Crazy. ..

  10. gordybhoy64

     

    Auldheids summurisation of Celtic_Firsts commentary from N Doncaster on sportsound last night with S Cosgrove & SEVCOPHANT G Spiers and some nobody bbc guy mcintyre or something.

     

    Hope this helps

     

     

     

    Auldheid (@Auldheid) says:

     

     

    Saturday, March 30, 2013 at 18:47

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    This is the thrust of Sportsound from CQN. (Its not my work, cannot type as fast and accurately in reporting terms as Celtic First on CQN so all credit to him.

     

     

    Doncaster: Rather surprisingly at the SFL meeting this week, 14 clubs for and 14 against. Previously, 28 out of 30 were for.

     

     

    Doncaster: Colt teams brought up very late in the day. It’s not part of the package. The deal was put together Jan 8, pretty detailed package of measures, huge concessions to SFL, what’s changed I really don’t know.

     

     

    Maybe it’s because a number of those clubs believe it’s possible to delay it a year, but that’s not part of the deal.

     

     

    Cosgrove congratules ND on blog on financial fair play.

     

     

    Spiers: You now want 12-12-18 and that might not be delivered. You’ve said to me we can’t have the status quo. If you don’t get 12-12-18, is your own position tenable?

     

     

    Doncaster: All any CEO can do is take on board views of members. A lot of clubs liked 10-10, but in the end not enough. I didn’t use the word ‘Armageddon’. In the end, the finances have proved far more robust, but it was right at the time to set out the risks of going down certain paths.

     

     

    Doncaster: It’s about four up, four down, potentially. It’s hugely dramatic. The fact is a lot of work has gone into creating something exciting and new. We should push forward. We should keep on with what’s been agreed and try and deliver it.

     

     

    Spiers: If you can’t get it done, 12-12-18, if you can’t deliver it, SPL2 seems to be the plan B.

     

     

    Doncaster: Anything taking us away from 12-12-18 would be a distraction. We’re in a week when Dunfermline have gone under and players have been made redundant. Need to push more money into SFL1 is urgent, greater than ever. We should focus on delivery of the deal for this summer.

     

     

    Doncaster: The fans on the whole would like to see a bigger league but we understand a bigger league is not affordable.

     

     

    Spiers: You keep saying implement this for next season. Looks like you won’t get 12-12-18 for next season what will you do next?

     

     

    Doncaster: April 15 vote, then it’s for real. Then the SFL clubs will have a decision to make. We had an agreement. I can only assume they, the SFL clubs, believe it can be delayed. Part of the deal is implementation this summer. Part of the package is it has to happen this summer.

     

     

    Doncaster: The money available in the first division is not sufficient to run a full-time outfit.

     

     

    Cosgrove: Which clubs are again? Celtic and Aberdeen?

     

     

    Doncaster: The proposal on the table takes 1.75 from existing SPL revenues and pushes it down to the first division. There is a recognition that when clubs come down out of the SPL almost impossible to survive.

     

     

    Doncaster: We have to protect the relegated club or clubs each year.

     

     

    Caller from Paisley, David [to ND]: Negativity must get you down. The three bodies agreeing on Jan 8 was great. The SPL are giving up a lot. My club Celtic giving up 800k or 900k. Go for it.

     

     

    Doncaster: Don’t want to go into individual clubs’ deals.

     

     

    David: Spiers wants you out the door.

     

     

    Spiers: You’re talking nonsense. I have no agenda against Neil Doncaster.

     

     

    David: Yes you have.

     

     

    Spiers: I think 12-12-18 could work. The problem is the rabble among the clubs.

     

     

    David: The split is a disgrace. You can end up playing Aberdeen away three times. We have to try something different. I admire the guy. You’ve got to give the guy a chance.

     

     

    Cosgrove: I agree with you very firmly that Graham Spiers does have agendas. He hates St Johnstone.

     

     

    Spiers: The nub of ND’s problem is lack of consensus among the leading figures. David Longmuir said he didn’t think change should be implemented next season. Leading figures disagreeing.

     

     

    David: Could Charles Green be working him from behind?

     

     

    Spiers: You said that, not me.

     

     

    Doncaster: [on Charles Green’s rant] There were good robust points of view at that meeting. Private meeting. I was invited. Wouldn’t be right for me to talk about things discussed at that meeting.

     

     

    SwanseaBhoy’s question on accusation that SPL insolvent.

     

     

    Doncaster: He didn’t say that to me. I’ve heard other people say he said that.

     

     

    Kenny: Where do Rangers stand? How big a part do they play?

     

     

    Doncaster: I don’t deal with them. I deal with the SFL and the SFA.

     

     

    Michael Stewart: But how powerful is the pressure Rangers are exerting on David L.

     

     

    Doncaster: Not for me to say.

     

     

    Spiers: That’s the elephant in the room. Strong suspicion that David L is falling under undue influence. He will have to come out and clarify this. I’m not making any accusation but this is what’s being discussed. Why this sea change? There is suspicion.

     

     

    Cosgrove: Especially when the idea of colts teams came out of nowhere. It felt like a wrecking tactic. With Charles G I could forgive you for not knowing day to day what he’s thinking because he seems to want to be in the CL, every English league, the Bundesliga hasn’t come up yet. Influence of one club. All clubs should be treated equally, as you’ve said in your blog.

     

     

    Doncaster: Ultimately it’s one club one vote.

     

     

    Spiers: It’s as clear as day. Rangers are a key factor. I would love it all to be equal, but it’s not equal.

     

     

    Cosgrove: One of reasons for financial situation, is Neil had to go out into real world and secure a deal. Problem isn’t income it’s cost. What Rangers are paying in SFL3 is a damned disgrace.

     

     

    Doncaster: We have five year deals with Sky and BT Vision. Four years to run. Those deals are in place regardless of SPL2.

     

     

    Spiers: Any reconstruction should not prejudice any club including Rangers. If SPL2 comes into existence and it’s a new format, I do not see why Rangers should not be invited.

     

     

    Cosgrove: Gie us a list of the teams then.

     

     

    Doncaster: We’ve had two detailed discussions. SPL clubs unanimously in favour of going forward. On April 15, none of that matters. It’s how they vote on the day.

     

     

    Doncaster: The desire to take more time over this is not going to help the division one clubs this summer. I want to keep the focus on the deal that’s been agreed.

     

     

    Spiers: You need to have a plan B. You’re not going to tell us about it here. April 15 is late in the day. If this thing is not delivered, late to deliver something for next season. Has to be a plan B, whether it’s SPL2 or whatever.

     

     

    Doncaster: All the more reason why we have to go forward to April 15 with confidence.

     

     

    Michael Stewart: Any credence given to Switzerland going down this 12-12-18 route and abandoning it?

     

     

    Doncaster: Many people in the SPL would agree for countries our size is that 10-10 would work better but it hasn’t been possible to deliver that. We have the better part of 20 full time professional sides in Scotland and they need to be given enough money to run a full time outfit.

     

     

    Doncaster: I can’t comment on something [SPL2] that I don’t have a mandate from my clubs about. Our clubs have not said they want to see an SPL2.

     

     

    Cosgrove on key quote from ND blog.

     

     

    Doncaster: That is the essence of a league. Create fair competition. To commercialise that league for benefit of members. Vital league is run fairly. Clubs have to pay players and taxman on time. If clubs don’t adhere, they face disciplinary sanctions.

     

     

    Doncaster: Individual clubs will have their own views, but I’m not going to speculate about that.

     

     

    Cosgrove: If SPL2 has not even been discussed, it can’t be in for next year.

     

     

    Spiers: I take it as a given that SPL2 is a distinct possibility. I have said all along, Rangers did wrong and wrong was done to Rangers. Right they should play their way back. They have to do their three years of penance. But if structure changes and there’s a new system, invite clubs to join but not invite Rangers, it would be wrong. It would aid Rangers by one year. But why prejudice Rangers?

     

     

    Cosgrove: If you are talking about a league treating everyone equally, no. Nowhere in the top clubs. If it’s just money, yes. But if it’s just money, say so. QoS first club to win their division this season. Are you saying that for economic reasons Rangers should be privileged above them?

     

     

    Spiers: No it should be meritocratic.

     

     

    Cosgrove: All these clubs are equal. You’re saying they should be invited in. If there is an invitation extended to clubs, it should be to those who have shown themselves on the field of play to be the top clubs.

     

     

    Doncaster: Not going to speculate about that [Rangers’ prize money being handed to BDO].

     

     

    Doncaster: Words exchanged with a number of chairmen. If you think someone’s unhappy with the SPL, you have to ask them about it.

     

     

    All over.

  11. Pfayr

     

     

    Few mins to go and one of their players goes down injured. We put the ball out of play which I don’t have a problem with, that’s the Celtic way. However, Foster proceeds to boot the ball out the stadium!!!

     

     

    Now I know I didn’t pay £25 today for his intelligence but for goodness sake have a moments thought what you’re doing with the ball.

  12. Burghbhoy

     

    21:39 on

     

    31 March, 2013

     

    That Munoz should have got his marching orders early doors. Shocking challenge on Bobby Collins.

     

     

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    cagey opening 10 mins ,

     

     

    that kopa and di-stefano looking for gaps, but peacock well in charge

  13. Di Canio appointed Sunderland head coach on 2 1/2 year deal, David Miliband resigns as vice-chairman in protest due to Di Canio’s previous political statements

  14. Burghbhoy

     

    21:50 on

     

    31 March, 2013

     

    St Stivs

     

     

    I thought the crowd was nearer 150k

     

     

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    aye, but its well known that a gate was chaged at the mont blanc end, and those inside the ground were dropping their tickets out the 2nd tier to the waiting que.

     

     

    estimated 60,000 from scotland.

     

     

    left 6 days ago, by bus and train. and ferry.

  15. saint stivs

     

     

    21:53 on

     

    31 March, 2013

     

    Burghbhoy

     

    21:39 on

     

    31 March, 2013

     

    That Munoz should have got his marching orders early doors. Shocking challenge on Bobby Collins.

     

     

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    cagey opening 10 mins ,

     

     

    that kopa and di-stefano looking for gaps, but peacock well in charge

     

     

     

     

    Bertie sure is strutting his stuff.

     

    Do you think the old board counted the crowd ?

     

    That Di Stefano looks overrated .

  16. prestonpans bhoys on

    Kayal33

     

    21:54 on

     

    31 March, 2013

     

     

    There must be internal fighting going on in that ground. Replacing MON with Di Canio is pure mental.

  17. HT

     

     

    re h) being closer to the truth.

     

     

    No matter what time he brought him on, somebody would get annoyed at it. In the grand scheme of things, it was just about as consequential today as me deciding which pie to buy in Paisley.

     

     

     

    PFAyr

     

     

    I have no inside info on Tony Watt’s misdemeanour and, if I did have, I would not post it on here for the judgemental to pitch in on. I have just seen it suggested by some that Tony is temporarily in the dog’s house, in the management’s eyes.

     

     

    I am sure he is in the process of being let out and we can then let the support turn on him when he turns out to be capable of ordinary and mediocre performances just like the rest of them.

  18. The Boy Jinky on

    Hh

     

     

    Big ff dropped the ball then their player collided with him … no where near the guys head

     

    In the replay you clearly see this then he delays going down holding his face. ..

     

    Ff turns round to see these antics then hoofs the ball out the park.

     

    Ref gets the mirren player up.. no treatment.. not asked to leave the field

     

    St mirren throw the ball to ff… then put him under pressure and he boots it back out again

     

    I was livid with his naievity

  19. gordybhoy64

     

    The SFL had voted 27-1 in principle to accept 12-12- 18 till longmuir threw a spanner in works and they voted 14-14

     

    Sevco dont get vote and 1 abstention out of 30

  20. Jimbo 67- Good post re Seville,as G64 can testify in the Vogue Bar is a photo of the fans in a square in Seville,takes me back every time i look at it.Great days.

  21. tully exceptional tonight according to BBC Radio.

     

     

    radio scotland has some debate from edinburgh university.

  22. saint stivs

     

     

    22:02 on 31 March, 2013

     

    tully exceptional tonight according to BBC Radio.

     

     

    radio scotland has some debate from edinburgh university.

     

     

    St Stivs

     

     

    Apparently some daft cameraman left the lens cap on whilst filming.

     

    Honest mistake you know!

  23. !!Bada Bing!!

     

     

    I could talk about it all night. And often do. Walking out to the game just talking about how great it was . To love football. And Celtic. And being in a warm country. And what it was to be a Celt. Like trying to explain why a joke is funny , why someone you fancy is gorgeous, why your favourite music is the best and why life is, as the fellow said, sweet. We were and are lucky

     

     

     

    Jimbo

  24. Sftb

     

     

    It was a substitution which would have had little impact on the remaining minutes of the game.

     

     

    It should either have been made much earlier or not at all as it wasted valuable time.

     

     

    Anyway, hope you had a good day.

  25. prestonpans bhoys

     

     

    21:57 on 31 March, 2013

     

     

    Kayal33

     

    21:54 on

     

    31 March, 2013

     

     

    ‘There must be internal fighting going on in that ground. Replacing MON with Di Canio is pure mental.’

     

     

     

     

    How much is the parachute payment?

  26. Di Stef no in the game. Euro footballer of the year , no way.

     

    Donnelly and Fallon giving him short shrift.

     

    Celtic support singing , we’ll be running round Bernie wi the cup!

     

    The punters look great in the 3 piece suits

  27. Leftclicktic,thanks again for your reply,seems like longmuir is desperate to scupper the proposals,looks like no reconstruction this year

  28. celticrollercoaster on

    Saint Stivs

     

     

    From a while back. No original badges left but lets see what next year brings.

     

     

    CQN 10 years old. The old Pablo/ DBBIA first edition badges may make a come back in a special format. You never know?

     

     

    HH

     

     

    CRC