Being responsible is not always easy, especially when it comes to running a football club, where playing to the gallery offers vastly better short-term returns, and no doubt a rush of endorphins.
If your fans are engaged in an activity which regularly brings them to the attention of the courts, and your club into disrepute, it doesn’t matter what you think of the apparent offense. You may chant an offending song in the shower every morning month, but your only public comment on the matter can be to chastise and urge fans to desist.
Clubs in Scotland voted against what is known as strict liability. This means they are not held responsible for transgressions by their fans – and who wants to be held responsible for the actions of others who protected from personal liability by hiding in a crowd.
Part of the deal on not having strict liability is that clubs must demonstrate that they take all steps necessary to dissuade and educate their fans from carrying out criminal or regulatory offenses. It’s simply not possible for club to tell fans their illegal actions were justified, as this would place the club itself in the firing line.
The nonsense following the Scottish Cup final is all background noise as far as we are concerned, but be aware the contagion will spread beyond those you could consider highly dysfunctional operators.
Solving Kids Cancer in memory of Oscar Knox
Our own Bundoran Bhoy will run the Edinburgh Marathon on Sunday on behalf of Solving Kids Cancer. He has put in an enormous amount of work ahead of the event, for a cause which you are only too familiar with.
26 miles is a long way to run. You can give him some encouragement on his Just Giving page.
Good luck, Tommy.
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Kev Jungle
Respect….
Great post mate..
Morning Hoops…
KevJungle@6:01
Like many have said Kev, from the heart, and said by a true Celtic supporter
You all also take care Bhud
Oh – Goood morning CQN :-)
MADMITCH
Agreed…Tom thinks he is the finished article.
5 mins with Brendan though, and Tom will realise, that he isnt ready for the step yet.
Seen this at many different levels in football….players not realising their full potential.
Long ago, when i played….my old coach, would rotate all the players, and get them to play different positions.
He would say…’Its not where you play, its how you play’
He would say….’Brazil….any of those boys could play anywhere on the park, defence, midfield, or forward’
And thats how we learned the different aspects of competitive football.
HH
GFTB
You were talking about old Coatbridge teams last night .
How about this excerpt from brother Wilfred and the history of Celtic .
As an indication of the margins between longevity of life for a fledgling football club and inauspicious demise in a pauper’s grave, one needs only look at the names of the clubs that registered with the Scottish Football Association on August 21st 1888: Glasgow Celtic Football and Athletic Club, Champfleurie and Adventurers of Edinburgh, Leith Harp, Balaclava Rangers from Oban, Temperance Athletic of Glasgow, Whifflet Shamrock and Britannia of Auchinleck. Brother Walfrid and his associates would come to ponder the mechanics required for a successful launch and, of course, a sustainable flight.
And before you ask … no , I didn’t play with Whifflet Shamrock .
KEVJUNGLE on 28th May 2016 6:01 am
ELDIEGOBHOY
Very eloquent. Real sincerity.
… sorry … Walfred
Chris Sutton’s new dilemma started the minute Brendan Rodgers was appointed, you don’t work for the Daily Reord to be supportive of the Celtic manager. He’ll need to find a new negative slant every week he writes, if he wants to prolong his career.
Even in modern times there were no hacks writing for Tommy Burns they even tried to derail his appointment and Celtic received a record fine for ‘tapping’, they slaughtered John Barnes and Josef Venglos from the off, MON WGS TM and Neil Lennon especially received bad press. MON was never done suing somebody. Fergus McCann was demonised Jock Brown despised and Wim Jansen never received any credit for his achievement, they even followed him to Portugal chasing his resignation story.
Chris Sutton has a nice little earner, he is exceptionally negative about Scottish football even in non Celtic games and unless he sticks with the Daily Record agenda, which is specifically set for the peepil, he won’t last.
Green man
Howye?
Never did get the “good player can play anywhere” crap, do you honestly think big billy could have played outside right and Jinky vice versa?.
Only real positions in my humble opinion that can inter change without really weakening the team structure are the wide position re: wingers and full backs, everywhere else on the park left footed player playing on the right get their feet caught up trying to get the ball over to their correct side, only the wide men get some sort of time to get set,
When i grew up….long ago:)
It was normal for all the boys to be able to play in different roles in the team.
We could play anywhere….defence, toughened you, midfield, made you scrap, forward, let you do your stuff.
Adaptabilty was the key.
Football now….is far too specialised in terms of where players can play.
For instance…can you imagine James Forrest playing right-back:)….no, me neither, and thats my point.
HH
Chris Sutton is only doing what each and every one of us are doing, offering an opinion.
Masty
Good players can play anywhere on the park….no doubt about that.
Its just in the modern game, they arent asked to do that.
Its all prima donna stuff now.
HH
Green man
On your last post james Forrest in theory should be able to play full back, most full backs I know/ knew were failed wingers
HAPPY HOOOOOOPY BIRTHDAY to
LESLEY,our new season-ticket holder!!!!!
Tom Rogic was a star Futsal player in Australia.Anyone who has watched it on Soccer AM will know the game is all about tricks,flicks,and very,very quick feet.
If memory serves he won some kind of competition to sign with a pro team,and it went from there.He really has not played a lot of high intensity football,due to coming to us and picking up injuries.,which could be affecting his fitness,then again maybe he is short on stamina,something I suspect Henderson has as well.
When he signed for us my mates in Oz were raving to me about how good he would be,and he is highly regarded in Oz.Could be a fantastic player for us if he stays and Brendan can get the best out of him.Does he want to though?.
Green man
Don’t agree at all mo chara
I gave you a prime example from our finest team, do you think we would have brought the big cup back with Jinky at centre back, big billy at outside right, Jim Craig up front?
… sorry … Walfrid …
Walfred was one of my ancestors
Green man
I totally agree with the prima Donna stuff though
“The thing about Celtic is that it’s a fantastic club, both when you’re there and when you’re not”
Alan Stubbs (2015)
21’15”. Best since June 2015. It’s been a great past week!
I would bite yer hand off for £7m for big tam, although if given a choice between rogic and biton , I would keep rogic every time.
Masty
I agree, in theory JF should be able to play right -back.
But the reality is different…..he would be aghast if any manager asked him to play in defence, because in his own mind, he is the rampaging winger(in his own mind of course:)).
Modern players are not open to it…..too pampered.
HH
Thats at least two great posts this morning(amongst many for the precious)
Take a bow sons
Kevj@6.01
Bsr@10.14
As on the football field, it’s the quality that sets us apart.
Oh that and paying our taxes, our creditors(inclusive of face painters) registering our players properly,being handsome, having a filter ad infinitum
Have a good day.
Edb ktf
HH
Green man
Suppose,
What ever happened to “I’ll play anywhere to get a game”?
The Green Man
“Agreed…Tom thinks he is the finished article.”
What has he said or done to make you think this or is it just his body language a bit like ” if Brig Virgil was chocolate he’d eat himself ” line we had on here a couple of seasons ago???
SP
Well said Kevj , showed a bit of real class there and your sentiment is supported by one and all here.
Hail hail
Masty
Four players off the top of my head spring to mind.
Roy Aitken…Big Shuggie Ed, Stan Petrov, Stevie Murray,…they used to call them ‘Utility players’
I agree about the Lions….but i think certainly, Big Tommy, Bertie, Stevie Chalmers, Bobby Murdoch of course, John Clarke….and even Jinky and Bobby Lennox….could have played several positions easy.
Imagine…..if we had players like that now:)
HH
What are the chances of a CQN convention in Lisbon on the last week in May in 2017?
Plenty of flights, very reasonably priced too, from Glasgow.
Eurochamps67
ImgoingifgodsparesusCSC
For the sake of repeating myself
Tom Rogic was allegedly offered a new deal earlier this year, has he re- signed ???
He has 12 months left on his current deal
Like James Forrest, who has 6 months left
Any decent offer and let go
I want players who are committed to playing for Celtic
As a club, we cannot be allowing players moving into last year of deals and walking for nothing
Eurochamps67
BRTH and BMCuWP were looking for names to organise something
“I have the chance to make this dream come true – it’s what I’ve wanted since I was a kid”
Fernando Torres
BT 19.45 San Siro
COWIEBHOY
Hasn’t signed up.
He last went public when the Arsenal rumour first got aired.
Said he loved it at Celtic, and wanted to stay.
How many times during the cup final was the BB sung, they talk as if the rendition after the game was the first and only sectarian song sung. Singing sectarian songs at the opposition is incitement partly why it is illegal, no ?
So it could be easily argued on their own logic that the hibs support only responded to incitement and prolonged intimidation, no ?
EUROCHAMPS67 on 28TH MAY 2016 10:33 AM….I’m up for that. However, this time someone will have to give me a helping hand to get over the moat. Can’t leap the way I used to…
EDB and KevJ…we are all CQN nurses, you only have to say the word…
COWIEBHOY
EUROCHAMPS
Looks like it’s a goer for the weekend beginning Wed 25 May. Takes us rather nicely into a Bank Holiday too.
BRTH has put his head above the parapet for this one,I think it’s in his blood!
KEVJUNGLE on 28TH MAY 2016 6:01 AM
A warm Heart felt post to Eldiegobhoy.
I never seem to catch you on the Blog as I have posted before. I at times disagree with your views that you post. I at times do agree with your posts.
I have only ever met you the once, briefly in the KoSC Blantyre. It would be great to meet up with you again.
Your post to Eldiegobhoy puts life in to perspective, where football fits into life.
As well as wishing you and Eldiegobhoy a return to good health I would like to see you take a leaf out of Eldiegobhoy ‘s book and buy a Season Ticket. As you especially will appreciate, life has a knack of throwing things at you, so get along and see your Team play, you’ll enjoy it next Season.
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
Thanks Cowiebhoy,
I’ll look out for any details.
I would like to plan a family break to coincide with a meeting.
Cannot think of anywhere else to be on May 25th 2017 than Estadio Nacional, Lisbon.
Eurochamps67
EUROCHAMPS67
The whole family?
Not as long a weekend as I thought-seems 25 May 2017 is a Thursday!