Strict liability when playing to gallery

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Being responsible is not always easy, especially when it comes to running a football club, where playing to the gallery offers vastly better short-term returns, and no doubt a rush of endorphins.

If your fans are engaged in an activity which regularly brings them to the attention of the courts, and your club into disrepute, it doesn’t matter what you think of the apparent offense.  You may chant an offending song in the shower every morning month, but your only public comment on the matter can be to chastise and urge fans to desist.

Clubs in Scotland voted against what is known as strict liability.  This means they are not held responsible for transgressions by their fans – and who wants to be held responsible for the actions of others who protected from personal liability by hiding in a crowd.

Part of the deal on not having strict liability is that clubs must demonstrate that they take all steps necessary to dissuade and educate their fans from carrying out criminal or regulatory offenses.  It’s simply not possible for club to tell fans their illegal actions were justified, as this would place the club itself in the firing line.

The nonsense following the Scottish Cup final is all background noise as far as we are concerned, but be aware the contagion will spread beyond those you could consider highly dysfunctional operators.

Solving Kids Cancer in memory of Oscar Knox

Our own Bundoran Bhoy will run the Edinburgh Marathon on Sunday on behalf of Solving Kids Cancer.  He has put in an enormous amount of work ahead of the event, for a cause which you are only too familiar with.

26 miles is a long way to run.  You can give him some encouragement on his Just Giving page.

Good luck, Tommy.

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  1. Gerryfaethebrig on

    TGM & TGCW

     

     

    Likewise, being called a Fenian was in my opinion complementary, it’s the ones uttering the words that think it’s derogatory, little do they know……

  2. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    Greenpinata

     

     

    Courtesy of our local friends….i knew i was a fenian b, long before i knew what the old firm was.

     

     

    HH

  3. Jimmynotpaul on

    Phil Mac, in his latest bog hinting that Magic Hat is interested in Reading managers job.

     

    Brendan Rodgers Fenian army will do me.

     

    James Forrest great blog. Thank you, I think I now understand Winning Captains karma posts.

  4. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    GERRYFTB

     

     

    Precisely…Thems dont understand what they are singing:)

     

    Always cracks me up….its their fear of us, that they are singing about.

     

     

    HH

  5. Gerryfaethebrig on

    CL final also being streamed on YouTube with BTs permission so no dodgy stream

  6. theglasgowcelticway on

    GERRYFAETHEBRIG

     

     

    Totally agree. I view it as something to be proud of and I’m unrepentant too,but I would prefer it if we didn’t sing that version with Rodgers name attached. It will be sung though.

  7. Good to see Brendan Rodgers is getting his Coaching staff together.

     

     

    Bringing in Glen Driscoll before we start bringing in and shipping out players is, to my way of thinking, very important.

     

     

    A proper assesment is what’s needed…

     

     

    Welcome to Celtic Glen, hope you make Lennoxtown the place….

     

     

    ———————————————————

     

     

    Interesting comments by the Aussie Coach.

     

     

    ““If you can tell me you can see the difference between Aaron Mooy or Tommy Rogic and what was in the (England) shirts, they’re outstanding footballers and if they were any other nationality they would already be playing at a big club,’’ Postecoglou said.”

     

     

    Can you imagine an Aussie saying this in the wake of Seviile?

     

     

    That what’s a decade of downsizing does for you. IF the stories are to be believed, Tom Rogic could be thinking of giving up his Celtic career for a seat on the substitutes bench at perennial under-achievers Arsenal.

     

     

    Really pleased Brendan is here to put us back on the Map.

     

     

    Hail Hail

  8. JFH

     

     

    Why would the word fenian be a slap on the face to non catholic Celtic fans? Strange

  9. Could this be the first debate on CQN associated with BR. ?

     

     

    It’s all PL’s and DD’s fault. :-))))))) did they not foresee this.?

     

     

    Till later guys and a big hail, hail to all. Hopefully next week will be monunentous, the signs certainly point to that.

  10. !!Bada Bing!! on

    JIMMYNOTPAUL on 28TH MAY 2016 1:05 PM

     

    Phil Mac, in his latest bog hinting that Magic Hat is interested in Reading managers job.

     

     

    I posted last night that Reading might be a step up for Warbiola,Billy Davies will be at Sevco …IMO

  11. Fenian

     

     

     

     

    1. One of a legendary group of heroic Irish warriors of the second and third centuries ad

  12. (formerly) a member of an Irish revolutionary organization founded in the US in the 19th century to fight for an independent Ireland

  13. Gerryfaethebrig on

    TGM

     

     

    Exactly, they probably know they are not the people but like their klub they just kid on, they are there to be laughed and mocked at…….

     

     

    the truth will set them free, but in the meantime I am loving it, any Hun from my scheme ;and there are many) don’t talk to me about football these days, as when I start smiling they walk away, during their BoS sponsored 9@row I had to buy many a drink as we always had a wee bet on who would win the league since 2012 not one of them have bought me even a juice, they know what we know they just don’t want to let us know they know

     

    Ostrich FC

  14. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    I remind you.

     

    You are a kid from Ireland…your family move to Glasgow into a nightmare of bigotry.

     

    How do you keep your identity?

     

    You go to see Celtic of course.

     

    No mystery there.

     

    A diverse range of people from all walks of life have long associated themselves with Celtic, Catholic, or not… to give a massive two fingers to the indigenous culture of bigotry.

     

    Thats the Celtic Way.

     

     

    HH

  15. The BR Fenian Army song was a spontaneous effort from the crowd on Monday at Celtic Park and it seemed to take off.

     

     

    I’d imagine the away support will quite happily chant it.

  16. Nye Bevans' rebel soldier on

    Looking for advice,spent the morning chopping

     

    down a small tree in the garden,how do I kill the

     

    stump without using chemicals,thank’s in advance

     

    for any replies,will read back later.

  17. theglasgowcelticway on

    Been impressed by Rogic but if he doesn’t want to be here I’m sure Rodgers will replace him without any real problems.

  18. The Battered Bunnet on

    James Forrest

     

     

    The fly in your ointment, in the event that UEFA finds that Rangers withheld/disguised the status of the Wee Tax Case to gain a UEFA Licence, is the Craig Whyte defence.

     

     

    It was Craig Whyte wot done it.

     

     

    Craig Whyte is a liar.

     

     

    Craig Whyte lied.

     

     

    If it comes to it, it’s the defence of first resort, notwithstanding that the actions of the ‘club’ and its ‘directing mind’ are indistinguishable.

     

     

    But it was Craig Whyte. He’s a liar and he lied.

  19. Jimmynotpaul on

    Bada Bing. 1.11.

     

    That would be hilarious if Billy Davies ended up there.

     

    Especially with all his orgy activities with his pal Tommy Sheridan.

     

    Certainly a few songs we could sing about that.

  20. Neustadt-Braw on

    Drill lots of long holes and burn it oot.take afew BBQ,s but works braw

     

     

    Braw

  21. A bit off topic, watching the original “father of the bride” can’t help but notice how much lionsroar looks like Spencer Tracy.

     

     

    Anymore lookalikes on here?

  22. NYE BEVANS’ REBEL SOLDIER on 28TH MAY 2016 1:18 PM

     

     

    Looking for advice,spent the morning chopping

     

     

    down a small tree in the garden,how do I kill the

     

     

    stump without using chemicals,thank’s in advance

     

     

    for any replies,will read back later.

     

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    Had to do this last year and ended up hiring a Stump Grinder & chainsaw, relatively quick to do and you just chop up the wood for easy clear up. You can also cover up the stump to shield it from the sun but this can take upto 6 months or more.

     

     

    HH

  23. Neustadt-Braw on

    Secret agent whyte was the man!…..disnae matter if he told porkies….sup oot of the goat wash cup…

     

     

    Stupid stupid huns……

     

     

    Braw

  24. Gerryfaethebrig on

    Nye Bevans

     

     

    Just let it grow and worry about it around 2030 when we are going for 20@row

  25. THE BATTERED BUNNET on 28TH MAY 2016 1:20 PM

     

     

    But it was Craig Whyte He’s a liar and he lied.

     

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    …… said current clumpany chairman David King without blinking or scratching his ear or showing an ear.

  26. Sipsini –

     

     

    Actually I’m regularly compared to George Clooney. But the outcome of that comparison is that I’m nothing like him.

  27. IKI on 28TH MAY 2016 1:30 PM

     

    THE BATTERED BUNNET on 28TH MAY 2016 1:20 PM

     

     

     

    But it was Craig Whyte He’s a liar and he lied.

     

     

    ===========

     

     

     

    …… said current clumpany chairman David King without blinking or scratching his ear or rubbing an ear.

  28. NYE BEVANS’ REBEL SOLDIER on 28TH MAY 2016 1:18 PM

     

     

    Drill holes in it and pour oil into them, apparently kills all the way down to the roots, more easily removed then.

     

     

    HH

  29. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on

    TBB,

     

    tOG make it quite clear it was an overdue payable since 2005 when HMRC asked and were lied to about side letters. Since then it was evasion and all further negotiations were about penalties and interest, in 2010, HMRC started the recovery of the unpaid tax process. It now opens the question was the initial license granting on 31st March wrong, IMO which has never wavered, it was wrong, the other guys were more pragmatic than me and gave the SFA the benefit of the doubt, I believe if and it’s still a big if UEFA open an investigation it will find the initial granting of the license will be a breach of the rules.

  30. theglasgowcelticway on

    I’d be careful pouring oil or diesel or anything else for that matter because it can get washed into the soil if the weather changes.

  31. angelgabriel on

    BJM / Twist & Turns.

     

     

    Noted the nags you both fancy at Salisbury. Just to add the mix , in the 5.50 is a horse called Renton . Tipped by WITS last time out, 2nd @ 14/1. Favourite today, poor price but will add on too your selections for a small stakes acca. HH

  32. 50 shades of green on

    Guys can any of you help me out here?

     

     

    Zombie in the pub reckons it was 1 hr and 45 mins after the final whistle last week before Hibs got presented with the cup, I think he is once again talking shite.

     

     

    Anyone know the timescale?

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