Being responsible is not always easy, especially when it comes to running a football club, where playing to the gallery offers vastly better short-term returns, and no doubt a rush of endorphins.
If your fans are engaged in an activity which regularly brings them to the attention of the courts, and your club into disrepute, it doesn’t matter what you think of the apparent offense. You may chant an offending song in the shower every morning month, but your only public comment on the matter can be to chastise and urge fans to desist.
Clubs in Scotland voted against what is known as strict liability. This means they are not held responsible for transgressions by their fans – and who wants to be held responsible for the actions of others who protected from personal liability by hiding in a crowd.
Part of the deal on not having strict liability is that clubs must demonstrate that they take all steps necessary to dissuade and educate their fans from carrying out criminal or regulatory offenses. It’s simply not possible for club to tell fans their illegal actions were justified, as this would place the club itself in the firing line.
The nonsense following the Scottish Cup final is all background noise as far as we are concerned, but be aware the contagion will spread beyond those you could consider highly dysfunctional operators.
Solving Kids Cancer in memory of Oscar Knox
Our own Bundoran Bhoy will run the Edinburgh Marathon on Sunday on behalf of Solving Kids Cancer. He has put in an enormous amount of work ahead of the event, for a cause which you are only too familiar with.
26 miles is a long way to run. You can give him some encouragement on his Just Giving page.
Good luck, Tommy.
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Sipsini 1.24pm
Hope he doesn’t mind me saying but Big Shuggy looks like a young Sir Richard Attenborough (I might get a slap for that)
Oh one more thing, there is no need to wait for HMRS’s determination of the outstanding tax, it is the responsibility of the tax payer to calculate and submit it, awaiting the determination was anothe squirrel to try and create confusion.
Canman
Yip. TOG also note that assorted clubs have been sanctioned for not declaring a future tax liability – one that is yet to crystallise, let alone one that fell due many years previously.
I agree in principle with the TOG opinion, but it’s arguable, and doubtless, will be argued.
I like being called a Fenian,something nice about it,
50 Shades
Doesn’t matter. Tell him/her/ both that what matters is they lifted it.
PADDY TURNER on 28TH MAY 2016 12:58 PM
Paddy T
That’s fascinating .
I knew about Whifflet Shamrock as that’s where I live .
However , I had never even heard of Champfleurie before .
Presumably they are no longer ?
Like another club that I can think of LOL
GERRYFAETHEBRIG on 28TH MAY 2016 12:51 PM
Fred C 10.08am
Whifflet Shamrock ? Was Lennybhoy the manager :-)
The nearest I got was playing for Connexions (showing my age)
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Connexions? The best goddam chrome & mirror bar in the whole of Monklands! Used to go there with my mate for 6 or 7 pints before he had to go operating a forklift at ASDA. And they wonder why all the Lees meringues were always broken…
NYE BEVANS’ REBEL SOLDIER on 28TH MAY 2016 1:18 PM
Looking for advice,spent the morning chopping
down a small tree in the garden,how do I kill the
stump without using chemicals,thank’s in advance
for any replies,will read back later.
Easy……………………………YOGURT (not flavoured just plain yogurt)
Canalamar
Definite strict rules between evasion & avoidance, PAYE no doubt is always evasion the “ebts” the Huns were trying to get in the avoidance gig, but am afraid again it’s deemed evasion guilty as charged
Jobo…
I had you down as a handsome Yul Brynner :))
Phil Mac source indicating Res 12 now moving in correct direction and major blocker been recently removed
Natknow the locals hated it being called Connexions always the Whifflet Arms, back in the early 90s those mirrors were pretty damned impressive
http://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/resolution-12-and-the-importance-of-perseverance/
50 SHADES OF GREEN on 28TH MAY 2016 1:41 PM
Anyone know the timescale?
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I read somewhere that it was 45 minutes. That seems about right to me.
50 Shades.
The English FA Cup final was a 5.30 kick off. BBC SCotland had to curtail their coverage (just as ‘Sunshine on Leith’ was beginning) so they could switxch to Wembley. I was watching all of this and would guess the cuo presentation was around 5.20pm. Or within 5 minutes eiterh way. So about half an hour after the final whistle.
Patio to Power Wash…………
HAPPY HOOOOOOPY BIRTHDAY tae LESLEY
Have a Great day.
Kev J
Thank you for that post.
James Forrest 12:28
Fantastic post
THE BATTERED BUNNET @ 1:20 PM,
It’s interesting… seen a comment in defense of the Craig Whyte defense…
It went summit like this…
It’s nothing… it’sequivalent of filling out you Driving Licence application and saying you have no medical conditions that would bar you from getting the Licence.
When I read it, a few of points occurred to me…
Firstly, the attitude that if someone makes it easy to lie, then it’s kinda their responsibility if you do. Where I was brought up with this being the worst shame. If you lied/cheated/conivved when you were “on your honour”, that was the worst kind of deceit.
Secondly and more importantly, the imperceptiveness of it all…
Furinstance, say I was epilepic, I have, for the first time since my diagnosis had to apply to renew my Driving Licence…
Well if I tell the truth I lose my Licence, my job, what about my Family… Well you could see how someone could be tempted…
Now here’s the thing, it’s one thing to lie, it’s a totally different matter when you’ve been Found Out.
That’s the point with Res 12, it’s not the initial lie that’s at play here, it’s the consequences of being Found Out. There has to be repercussians or the whole things a nonsense.
Let’s look at the Driving Licence scenario. I’m driving along a busy Street on a lovely Sunny afternoon and I have a siezure…
I mount the kerb, take out a Bus shelter and severely injure some waiting passengers.
Now then, I get Found Out, my Insurance Company doesn’t pay out ’cause I lied to them, I have a huge bill for damages to injured people and street furniture. The DVLC take a dim view and I’m banned and to top it all the Polis do me for GBH and a host of other things.
So for me, the Craig Whyte defence and the mind set that condones thid is wrong. The initial lie is bad enough, but once you’re Found Out there HAS to be CONSEQUENCES.
“Your Honour”
Hail Hail
WC 1.53pm
Some might want you to reveal all, personally I love your wee hints, good things come to those who wait
Mon the 12’ers and thank you…
WC
Interested to note the “briefed against” comment. I heard precisely the same thing yesterday, with Warburton and Paul Murray getting in the neck from a ahem… higher level.
Gerryfaethebrig on 28th May 2016 1:03 pm
TGM & TGCW
Likewise, being called a Fenian was in my opinion complementary, it’s the ones uttering the words that think it’s derogatory, little do they know……
I always tell them they missed out
UNBOWED ,UNBROKEN & UNREPENTANT :))))
They dont like thatCSC
WC – right I’ve read it, delete away. Mum’s the word ;-)
Leftclicktick
You posted what I meant :-)
GERRYFAETHEBRIG on 28TH MAY 2016 1:50 PM
Natknow the locals hated it being called Connexions always the Whifflet Arms, back in the early 90s those mirrors were pretty damned impressive
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As a long-term resident (sometimes prisoner) of the parish of St. Bernard’s, Shawhead, I was one of those who was dismayed at the name change. Didn’t stop me drinking there though! WAY more mirrors than The Big Tree… :-)
Gerryfaethebrig @ 2.00 –
Can’t see any post from WC at 1:53. You’re havering, mhan!
Unbelievably, I’m at Braehead arena at the bairns dancing comp.
This close season lark has a lot to answer for!!!
HH
Anybody just logging on you must scroll back and read Winning Captains 1.53pm post
Unbelievable, pretty damned amazing, don’t read Jobo’s post he just doesn’t want you to read what WC posted……… Some stuff !!!!!!!
Natknow…. Too many Shawheid punters on here, in fact far too many Southern ML5ers
50 shades – i’ve just re-ran a tape of the game. The Hibs captain was presented with the cup 34 minutes after the final whistle.
Some Milan metro stations have been closed in consequence of the discovery of a small parcel taped to some stairs at a station on the line for the San Siro.Italian media are quoting the Milan plod as stating the parcel contained an imitation explosive device.
Has WC’s 1:53 comment went for a walk?
I posted when the Clumpany started his exquisite blog that I thought he might be billynowell.
Just watched his latest and realise they are two clever blokes with the same goal…honesty.
https://theclumpany.wordpress.com/2016/05/27/a-wee-sing-a-long/
Prestonpans Bhoys
I think WC said it would only be up for 10minutes, I think it’s now known as the “1.53pm clique post” I would repost it but don’t want WC’s lawyers at ma door …..
WC`s 1:53 post is most intriguing.
JJ
Gerry,
Thanks should have taken an earlier coffee break from gardening and wouldn’t have missed it!
Anyway local CSC fund raiser tonight only 4 1/2 hours to drinking time :0)
Arghh just finished work so missed WC comment.
HH
Prestonpans Bhoy
Don’t tell anybody but the post was just saying things are coming to ahead, that’s all am allowed to say, I think it was Jobo that got it deleted …….
Anybody else logging on WC didn’t post at 1.53 and the rumour that P67 has banned him is just malicious
TheBhoyJinky…… I want to know, in fact I demand too know your thoughts on our new manager
GFTB…
I’ve been popping on and off whilst washing/ironing…I know :(
Let’s hope you are light of foot if big shuggie sees your post.HH
Good afternoon, enjoying a quality cider in the garden after sorting out various pots and hanging baskets. Just the one though, as 5pm vigil mass beckons. Got the 5k done in my anticipated time; as expected Jobo is about 8 minutes ahead of me but I think I have a good 15 years on him so I will rest easy.
Looking forward to CL final tonight, great to see Big Billy with the cup installed in the Champions Way in central Milan. What a tribute. Fancy Atleti to do it in 90 minutes, 2-0. Will be having some Tapas to set the mood after vigil Mass.