We play plenty of no-win games, where all that can be achieved is an expected result and the avoidance of a humiliating loss, or draw. Tonight is different. Tonight we play the team who won the Europa League last year and who are significantly better resourced that Celtic. When Celtic entered this group, opposition from Spain, Italy and France ensured that expectations were never going to get wildly out of proportion. Indeed, after Sion, defeat in Madrid and a solitary point at home to Udinese, many expectations were of an early exit.
But, after four games, Celtic have it all to play for. Two solid performances against Rennes delivered four points and a big performance this evening would give Celtic an excellent chance of progressing to the business end of European football.
This is a test for a young and emerging Celtic team. Don’t underestimate them….
Read the unofficial Celtic v Atletico Madrid programme here.
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Why Chinge the Layeoot.. ??
Why Tinker .. and Fiddle?
That Celtic Eleven, played the Best Fitba’ Ah hiv Seen at Parkheid..or
anywhere else… This Season.
Ah Dinna watch any ither Teams.. by the Way!
It wid be tantamount tae Madness tae Make wan Chinge tae that
line-up!
The Time Comes when ye must leave well alain,alain.
This is that Time.
In Ma opinion.
Kojo
TBB
most Sky scottish games are on Sky 3 & 4
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Ref for Weekend 3rd time we have had Mr Murray this season
DUNDEE UNITED
V.
CELTIC
Sky, kick-off 12.45pm
ref Calum Murray
1st Alasdair Ross
2nd Billy Baxter
4th Craig Thomson
i have to agree with kojo(maybe a first) we should not change the line up. stokes and hooper up front for sure
The Battered Bunnet 30 November, 2011 at 14:28:
From memory Celtic and other Scottish football are usually relegated to Sky Sorts 4. If that is the purpose of your package purchase then BT won’t show a lot of the games.
TBB,
watch the games on streams, cheaper by far, in fact you cant beat free :o)
Wish Kayal would do his talking on the park. Been a great few weeks results wise.
West Wales Celt says:
30 November, 2011 at 14:19
“Be on the train to London this evening so will appreciate all the updates I can get…”
Let me be first to oblige.
At the moment, it is nil nil.
Asp lendid bit of direct action…
An angry snakecharmer in the northern Indian state of Uttar Pradesh has let loose dozens of snakes in a government office, sparking chaos and panic.
Hakkul, of Lara village in Basti district, dumped the snakes, including a number of cobras, at the land revenue office in Harraiya town on Tuesday.
Many of the frightened villagers and officials ran out of the office, while others climbed on top of tables.
No-one was bitten or injured but the snakes are yet to be caught.
Plot of land
Mr Hakkul is usually called in whenever a snake is spotted in the area and he has saved many lives over the years, local journalist Mazhar Azad told the BBC.
He has petitioned various government offices over the years demanding a plot of land where he can “conserve” his snakes.
Mr Azad said Mr Hakkul had even petitioned the president.
Mr Hakkul says his request has been cleared by senior authorities, but the local officials keep delaying it.
On Tuesday, Mr Hakkul went to the Tehsil [revenue] office with a group of supporters and emptied out his bags containing poisonous snakes.
“Snakes were climbing up the tables and chairs. The office was full, there were nearly 100 officials and clerks and many more visitors,” Mr Azad said.
“There was total chaos for several hours. Some people started taking photos with their telephone cameras, others brought out sheets to try to cover the snakes. Some came with sticks and wanted to beat up Hakkul.”
Mr Azad said Mr Hakkul and his men escaped in the confusion and are yet to be caught.
So are the snakes who are still hiding in the building.
Fighting the Fuzz’s Big Strike XI:
———————Forster—————————-
Matthews——Big Dan—-Chico———–Joe16Led
————Kayal———–VictheTic67—————
Broonie———–Forrest Fire————Ooh Ahh…
———————Stokes—————————–
SuperHooper on for Forrest after 60 mins.
2-1 to the Celts and victory for the bold striking men and women.
Larsson80;
Well said sir.
The pomposity of the city’s political wing telling ordinary working people “we’re all in this together” is so ludicrous it beggars belief.
There’s only one class of people paying for banking profligacy and it matters little whether you work in the public or private sectors…
Uttar Pradesh ?? :=)
Lennon: “If we win it, it gives us a great chance of qualifying from a really tough group.”
I hope we are not getting ahead of ourselves…
Even if we win tonight, if all the remaining group games are won by the home teams we will not progress. So both Atletico and Udinese can afford to lose tonight and still progress by each winning at home in their respective final matches.
If Udinese draw both their remaining matches, with the match against Celtic ending 0-0, then Udinese will progress. In this case Atletico will join them in the next round if they too draw their remaining two games… or by beating Rennes at home should Celtic win tonight by a single goal (or by two goals should Atletico also score).
Even if we beat Atletico 3-0 and draw 2-2 in Udine (giving us the head-to-head advantage in both cases), we would still be eliminated if both those teams beat Rennes in their other game.
The only scenario that would absolutely guarantee Celtic’s qualification is that we win both remaining games. This would also guarantee us top spot in the group.
That’s the target Neil.
Let’s play to our own strengths and just do it!
Iki:
Beyond the call of duty I appreciate but, seriously, post KO will suffice; I wouldn’t want you to peak too early now…
ROW z
Take some responsability.
Why is it always a blame game. Always someone elses fault.
Its your pension – you manage it.
I wouldnt give my money to a random person I had never met – who by definition is paid by you to be only slightly better than average .
And on a point of order – you havent paid me a penny. we dont all fit in nice little boxes.
The Battered Bunnet says:
30 November, 2011 at 14:28
After all that…
BT now saying they can get my line up to 3.5Mb, which is x3 faster than current.
Offering a broadband + TV package including Sky Sports 1&2, plus ESPN for £39 per month, plus £13.90 for the phone line.
That compares to Sky’s offer of all Sports Channels plus ESPN plus all their other pash channels, but no internt etc, for £50 per month.
Virgin a no-go.
Thoughts?
If it is a good Broadband provider you are looking for,may I suggest having a look at http://www.billkruncher.co.uk £19.99 a month including phone line.
Rowz
Pal..
That is the wey it is Supposed tae Woik..
Why are ye grumpin’?
The Rich are supposed tae Get Richer and the gap between
Poor and Rich,is Supposed tae widen.
And there is a Very guid Reason fur that.
And it is..
Everybudy, is oot fur themselves..
The Rich wanna Get Richer..
and
The Poor are Content tae Remain as They Ur…. Poor..and Helpless .. and Hapless.. as New Borns.
And.. the Reason they ur that wey.. The Poor , that is…
is…
Because they allow that situation, tae Continue…
Look. everybuddy comes intae this World. withoot a Bean tae his Name
Even the Heirs of the Rich..
Noo..
If ye are Born intae a Poor Family.. that is a Hurdle that ye hiv tae
jump..
If ye are Born intae a Rich Family.. there are No Hurdle..tae Jump.
Howevahhhhhh…
If ye dinnae want tae Get Richer, then.. Ye Wullnae…
Ye hiv a choice..ye hiv Free Will..
Ye hiv yer Intellect..
But ,ye must Hiv Wan Mair important Facet,and that lies within yer Character .. and that is.. Determination.
And…
Determination, in Using that FREE WILL..
No Tae Be Poor!
Yep… That is the Master Key..
Ye must WANT… NO TAE BE POOR!
Here is a Quotation, fae Ma Wise Uncle Moishe..
“Ah’ve Bin Poor and Ah’ve Bin Rich.. and
Rich… is Better!”
No gettin oot o’ Poverty is No Easy. .
It is Hard … Very Hard….
But..
It Can be Done…and Is Done..
But..like everything else..
It is Entirely up tae the Individual, tae Exert Himsel.. and
NO TAE BECOME INURED AND CONTENT TAE BE MIRED IN POVERTY.
Ye must get oot there.. and
HUSTLE.
Kojo
Row Z
Ref bank bailouts. your absolutely correct, those that recieved bailouts should have been allowed to go bust.
They were bust then, they are bust now, and they will be bust until the debasement of the currency inflates away their losses and the staus quo is resumed.
thats was Za-nu labour for you. Always tinkering and interfering after the event – whilst managing with light touch over the previous 8 years – Creating a Milch cow of a bubble which they were happy to tax quite merrily like a golden goose . They even managed to find time to enoble Fred Goodwin.
BigChipsUK –
would you mind running that past me just one more time, only slower… ;-)
Jobo
Citibhoy Shoulder to Shoulder with Neil Lennon says:
30 November, 2011 at 13:45
BRTH.
the problem with the public sector pension arrangements is that unfortunately thereis no pot… their never was. It is one almighty ponsi scheme like the rest of a FIAT money system.
But as every con man knows every fraud needs plausability.
Thereis simply no plausability in the PS pension arrangements. You know it – I know it and they know it. They are unnaffordable. They will impoverish your children and your grand-children. This was the conclusion of a labour peer.
Now as to the manner of it all – I have explained above , you deal with the state at your peril. The state is brutal in its interaction with the individual. The state however is indiscriminate in its actions. I didnt see the PS workers out on the streets when Gordon Brown raided the pensions of those in the private sector.
The piper needs paying and as always he will be paid.
As for your comments on the commercial banking environment – it is indeed brutal, but to be honest these guys never got the big bonuses, that was reserved for those of us on the trading floor. And with a few notable exceptions it was entirely perfromance related.
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Why should the Public Sector workers take to the streets for the private sector, did the private sector workers have the temerity to even do that for themselves?
The labour peer concluded that the PS pensions are sustainable, and maybe some private pensions are crap but that should not be a reason to cut PS pensions in a race to the bottom – for all but the bankers and politicians
Gooooooooooooooood afternnooooooooon
CQN
BigjoebackinAlba
CREDIT
Beautiful credit! The foundation of modern society. Who shall say that this is not the golden age of mutual trust,
of unlimited reliance upon human promises? That is a peculiar condition of society which enables a whole nation to instantly recognize point and meaning in the familiar newspaper anecdote, which puts into the mouth of a distinguished speculator in lands and mines this remark:
‘I wasn’t worth a cent two years ago, and now I owe two millions of dollars.’
Mark Twain
The Battered Bunnet says: 30 November, 2011 at 14:28
Remember BT only offer SS 1&2, lots of Celtic games are on SS3&4.
Maybe not as good a deal when you take that into account.
I’ve tried everyway to use a different supplier, butof you want to see Celtic on tv, Sky offer most coverage.
Of to wrap up warm for tonight, looks cold.
I am retired now so am only interested in the OAP pension. However I have worked in public and private sector and also been self-employed. Public sector was shit pay compared to same job in private sector where I earned at least 50% more. Private pension scheme from employer was crap compared to guaranteed PS pension, but then again pay was so much more that I could choose to plan ahead ahead and pay into a private pension fund for those years. I have no sympathy for private sector employees whinging about the public sector.
Citibhoy @ 3.04,
did you really just say:
“…Why is it always a blame game. Always someone elses fault.
Its your pension – you manage it.”
?????
That was without doubt one of THE most pathetic comments I have seen on here in years!
Tell you what, next time you’re unwell and need medical treatment, diagnose and treat it yourself!!
Next time you need a passport, go and carry out all the necessary checks and paperwork yourself.
Next time you need to educate your kids……….do it yourself.
etc.
Struggling to contain myself at the sheer arrogance of that utter drivel.
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
kojo – the poor are content to remain as they are?
Have you ever visited the planet earth?
That’s all we need, Janet and John monetarism
Sigh…
Ron Bacardi,
I hope you are enjoying a well earned and long retirement.
I have never whinged about the public sector v private sector pension.
The Hutton report on the page one of the overview states the following….
“The current model of public service pension provision is clearly not tenable in the long-term. There is a clear need for reform.”
It would be remiss of any government not to address such an important issue.
Good luck Celtic tonight. It would be great if we can meet on the stands watching Celtic and Legia in the games in Spring 2012.
We are in the next round yet. Your turn Celtic players.
My dear,dear,dear,friend.. Citibhoy
Pal. Ah am Astonished that ye should
AGREE.. that the Big Banks.. should Have bin allowed tae Go tae the Wa’
if they Were in Financial Trouble..
If that had Happened..and No Governmental Help was Made Available..
A. WORLD WIDE FINANANCIAL CATASTROPHE would have Ensued..
Pal..
Surely,a Man with Your Financial Acumen…
Knows this Fact of Life.. only, too Well..
And it is.. this…
A CIVILIZED WORLD cannot Function for five Minutes… as Things are
set up…. the way that they are..
WITHOOT, A FUNCTIONING WORLD WIDE BANKING SYSTEM.
Civilization would Break Down..
And .. Barter wid be the Woid of the Hoor.
For ..like Ah said…the way things are set up…
Everyday, Life would become a Horrible Experience…
Nae Joabs.. Nae Work. for EVERYBOADY..
And.. that..is
a Fact.. a Truism.. that is INCONTROVERTIBLE..’
Bottum Line..
The GOVERNMENTS of the World. Did the Right Thing.. The Only Thing..
They had No Option..
When they Moved Heaven and Hell..
Tae Save the BIG BANKS..
Kojo
“I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.”
Thomas Jefferson
Afternoon ruined.
Went on the march. It was excellent, great turn out, terrific support from Glasgow punters.
Forgot my ticket for the game tonight so had to miss out on lunch and drinks to come home for said ticket.
Quick sandwich and off to Paradise.
Beer will have to wait until I watch our brilliant performance rerun on the ole Sky+ thingy.
Gazebo here I come.
EC67
Any inkling of a bit of team news Gents? As much as I feel Dundee Utd is a FAR more important game on Sunday, we should still try and field a relatively strong line-up tonight.
HH
Giggs
Kojo
I know yer kind and wouldn’t expect anything else. Luckily other people have some regard for their fellow travellers other than tae hustle them……… but if you knew me you’d know I have experience of hustles, hustling and hustlers as well as other other ways of doing business.
City Boy
Unless you only spend your day trading your own dollars then your profiting from someone else’s dollars. Those dollars belong to someone else. Trading already spent dollars creates not one economic bean other than the charges and profits (or losses) in those transactions.
No doubt you think you’ve earned them.
I see the the stains that crawled of the sheets of thatcherism have now spread out and are showing their compassion,
dear god what sort of society are we heading for,its slowly but surely getting like a scene from snake plisskens movie.
The Good will Prevail
Pal
Are You Poor?
If ye urnae…
Then.. it Proves that Ye didnae wantae be..well.. Poor.
Fur if Ye hid.. wanted tae Be Poor..
Then ye widnae Hiv Gone Oot.. and Lived and PLANNED yer
Life..
In a way..
tae
MAK DAMN SURE..’
That Ye Didnae Become Poor..
Kojo
afternoon bhoys and ghirls
bbc squad for tonights game
Celtic: (from) Forster, Loovens, Majstorovic, Ledley, Kayal, Wanyama, Matthews, Samaras, Bangura, Stokes, Hooper, McCourt, Forrest, McGeouch, Zaluska, Ki, Blackman, Brown, K Wilson.
Blackman is in the europa squad even though we signed him after the europa league squad was announced and Rogne still isnt allowed to be in that squad
quality work again from the bbc
Paul67 or any mods (assuming there still are some out there)
can you please delete my comment @ 1525hrs?
Getting ready to go to the game and although my mood has been somewhat dampened by certain posts, Im looking forward to the game and dont want to get drawn into arguments at this stage.
Thanks in advance
HAIL! HAIL!
Token