I see several “fans’ groups” are engaged on the subject of our old friend, Juninho, who played around 13 games for Celtic eight years ago and benefited from an Employee Benefit Trust before and during his time at the club.
Can you believe this is where their focus is?
As Sir David Murray and a gaggle of his former directors will tell you, there is nothing illegal in EBTs, it’s the undeclared second contracts the football authorities have a problem with. Juninho’s EBT was not subject to any contract or side letter whatsoever. Moreover, our then chairman, Brian Quinn, regarded EBTs with suspicion and instructed the club to declare Juninho’s to the Revenue. Celtic even paid tax on money paid to the EBT.
The SFA and SPL, and every journalist in Scotland interested in getting a story right, are fully aware of the facts.
I suppose running with this beats looking at links between Green and Whyte. Keep up the good work, guys!
And for the record, stripping titles is not the ultimate sanction, not by the length of Argyle St.
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The Honest Cover-up on 6 August, 2012 at 19:27 said:
Ah! I had that as well yesterday or the day before – no updates and new comments until I logged in.
Just heard from a mate that Ned Flanders has said on SSB that the fans have too much say!
So we should just listen to and accept as truth whatever tosh Flanders and his inept Rangers apologists spout?
Woefully out of touch and behind the times. CQN and RTC have completely rewritten the rules if engagement and the failure to see that is why SSB is dying. Talk about yesterday’s man!
BBC has reacted much better, with more and more prominence given to guys like Jim Spence and Stewart Cosgrove.
What’s with people wanting us to make statements for accusations from some jumped up new 3rd divisions club/fans and a man who has run his businesses into the ground??!! And a media that writes pure tripe about us.
There are other clubs in the spl who used them… Hearts,and we know why and the link.
If you want statements, ask mr ogilvie at the spl, mr Regan, mr Doncaster.
Messrs Lawell & Lennon are focusing on Wednesday, vital game.
Sevco = Whoco.
Sdm = prisoner 18722012 before long.
The dead club followers are really stupid…do they not understand that the SPL investigations is about dual contracts and not EBTs…stupid orcs…:)
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
Keevins admits he’s been banned by Celtic …
KTF
@bhongobhoy on 6 August, 2012 at 19:40 said:
Hence the extra vitriol tonight then. Sad old fool.
Guys, that Murray statement is best read with Shaggy’s “It wasn’t me!” playing in the background.
What a pile of crap!
Wow! Flanders has just admitted that he is banned from Paradise!
Well Done PL!
Posted this earlier but I’ll try again –
I’m lucky enough to have ticxkets for 2 Olympic events. However, it turns out that I may not be able to attend one of them.
It’s my fault for buying in a rush but it seems tickets are completely non-transferable. I can’t even give them away.
It’s not a huge amount of money so I can live with the loss but it is frustrating when there’s tons of people who can’t go. Any ideas?
Kayal33 on 6 August, 2012 at 18:07 said:
Mark Daly on Sportsound tonight, 6.10pm. Hopefully the succulent lamb scoffer will be on with him!
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What did Mark have to say anyone?
Ned’s irrelevant……………..
………………his outbursts masquerading as opinions only worthy of a low-brow pantomime.
Doubt very much he’s been banned. Much more would have been said on this. He’s more likely to have been told he’s not welcome.
“The stripping of titles is a non-starter,” said McLeish. “I know it’s been mooted, but personally, I don’t think that it should go against Rangers.
“I was at the club at the time and had lawyers who looked at the contracts and everything was okayed. It’s not something I’m particularly comfortable about discussing.
“There was no cloak and dagger stuff. My lawyer looked at it and it was the type of contract that you know that going to a club like Rangers or Celtic, you would be expecting.
“I reduced the wages by half, so I’m not guilty of bringing any players in at top prices. It was in my era at Rangers it was about the opposite – I was working with the club to reduce the costs and wages and at the same time keeping the competitive edge, which we did.”
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But are you guilty of helping to move these players on by using EBT as part payment of a working contract ?
The answer has to be Yes Alex
HH
miki67 on 6 August, 2012 at 17:14 said:
To qoute Tolkien re. Grima Wormtongue and directed at Minty,Jabba et al :
“The wise speak only of what they know, Gríma son of Gálmód. A witless worm have you become. Therefore be silent, and keep your forked tongue behind your teeth. I have not passed through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man till the lightning falls.”
I read it as this after a few too many African woodbine:
“There are those who sneak on their tummy like snakes do, said Gurner son of a dirty old sod. Play chess with your own tapeworm? I like your nightdress and new perm, it may be threadbare but do not squirm. Be still thy dachshund, and sleep your cork well hung firmly behind thy briefs. I have not gassed a choir nor sent many to flatulent distress to lace my candy with acid or put it in my custard and dumplings- now the milkman’s come with the bill and he has my Morton rolls.”
Need to go for a lie down.
Keevins will see his ban as a badge of honour,see him sooking up to the Sevco supporters,despicable little ratbag.
alex thomson @alextomo
Murray says ‘no cheating’. SPL lawyers say ‘case to answer’ . Who do u believe?
Rangers signing spree at an end
Rangers manager Alex McLeish does not expect to make any more signings before the start of the season.
And he admits that he is in the dark about the Ibrox future of Greece defender Sotirios Kyrgiakos.
Kyrgiakos had a successful loan spell from Panathinaikos last season and Rangers are still attempting to finalise a permanent move.
“We’ve pushed out the boat in terms of budgets, so there won’t be much more until players leave,” said McLeish.
Defender Jose-Karl Pierre-Fanfan, midfielders Brahim Hemdani and Dany N’Guessan, striker Federico Nieto and the versatile Ian Murray have arrived this summer.
Striker Peter Lovenkrands, midfielder Dragan Mladenovic and defenders Zura Khizanishvili, Maurice Ross and Michael Ball all appear to be surplus to requirements.
But no moves out of Ibrox have been secured despite some interest for Ross and Khizanishvili in particular.
“We need to balance the books and wages to the right level,” said the Rangers boss, whose side face Linfield in Belfast in a pre-season friendly on Saturday.
“We have one or two sniffs here and there but nothing concrete as yet.
“But we’ll keep close contact with the agents when something happens.”
McLeish is still in the dark over the future of Kyrgiakos, who reportedly failed to turn up at training with Panathinaikos.
“I don’t know what’s happening,” he said. “We are having ongoing negotiations, but that will obviously have to come to a head soon.
“You probably know more than me about him going awol, but I haven’t given up hope of him coming back.
“I have not made any plans to look for another centre-half. There are not many names out there.”
McLeish insisted that he has not yet decided whether fit-again Stefan Klos or Ronald Waterreus, signed as cover in January, would start in goal against Livingston when the league starts on 31 July.
“Ronald Waterreus and Allan McGregor will travel to Northern Ireland and Stefan will keep working on his sharpness and fitness, but he should be between the sticks against Ipswich,” he said.
“They are all my number one goalies and I haven’t decided who I think is equipped to start the season.
“It’s mouth-watering for the media to speculate on what Alex McLeish’s decision is going to be.
“But you will have to wait and see. It’s good news for me that I will have an experienced man not starting.”
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We pushed the budgets in 2005 and by 2012 he was ebeneezer.
Mc Leish will be left with a carling cup medal.
HH
A very quick read back and picked up on these two wee gems.
Hugh Keevins was banned from Celtic Park ,
Well Done PL!
CQN and Celtic are amazing – well done you all it just gets better.
Glad to hear Keevins is barred. I would extend that to Traynor, Young and Leckie immediately. It won’t matter a jot. They’ll still find ways and means to spin every story to praise thon deid team and do us down.
There was a memorable picture of Eck ‘working’ with smudger in Sith Efrica, pre World Cup, on some scoddish blazer junket just before he jumped ship…………………
……………..he was with the Big Wig in full short-sleeved vacationer mode………
…………no doubt travelling luxuriously at the public’s expense with his like – minded confederate…………………………………………..
……………………..head in the trough………………… and the sand……………………..
Shameless.
Doddsy’s still stuck at the five time table…it takes him that long to answer the questions on radio…because he has to rearrange the words he has in his wee tobacco tin…cat, mat…wisnae me…EBT…
A reporter with no visible, tangent means of access to a headline, is commonly known as an ex-reporter.
Bada Bing from earlier, you could try the Faside Inn in Wallyford, Celtic folk have it, the Coyles his wife is Paul McStays cousin. Phone first as it is a mixed bunch.
Stags behind the Brunton Hall in Musselburgh might show the game,also a mixed bunch.
KTF
Wee Shugo was just ready to talk about Lord Glennie & Lord Hodge but he was saved from himself. Thought he didn’t know them earlier?
MacGregor@shaggeresquire#The Polis have just taken the wives drilldo that I bote her wae my Rangers EBT#she’s can’t get no satisfied.
Just imagine if MON was in a ‘situation’………………….
…………How would the meeja landscape look then?
one scoddland, one kulture………..
Carrigan-Thank you.HH
Robert tressil,was a sore one but my glass is always half full.anyway its bn the best few months Iv had watching the demise of the hun n watching them squirm.hoping we do Helsinki and progress as its all the dead club have left to dream about.hh
IBGAW, On Wednesday 52000 turned up, 3 days later 48000 turned up.
In the space of 3 days 100000 people turned up. Most teams in Europe would be proud of that.
SffS
caeser1967 on 6 August, 2012 at 18:27 said:
Mark the match is Wednesday not Tuesday and you told me you would be home to cut the grass wash the windows and do the ironing and cook my dinner.
Good evening friends from a dry, mild, bright and (unfortunately ;-)) wife-free East Kilbride.
Gordon J from page 3 (2nd post) – your photos are fantastic!
Jobo (hic!)
Angela Smith
Brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All ragers seem to be bringing to Scottish football is bigotry and bile ,if Scottish football need that to survive ,it doesn’t deserve saving
HH
Could we please stop debating derhun – they are an irrelevance. They are finished and are in the dustbin of history , As for sad old fekkers like Keevins do you think that anybody and I mean anybody thinks he has a scintilla of credibility???
The landscape has changed and so should the debate
Having had personal experience if you give power of attorney to an expert over your financial or legal matters. You are still fully legally responsible. Your only recourse of action if you have been duped by an expert is to sue them. Well that is how it is in Germany
HH
When they have been konvicted and they have taken their shame…………..
Just getting used to the fact that the succulent lamb gravy train has been demoted to the third division of Come dine with me kitchen – and then you are barred from the Gourmet A la Carte opulence of the finest cuisine within the realms of Celtic Park, wee Shug wont find tomorrows Fish and Chips wrapped in his blockbuster sheet!
Anche Gil Angeli
Stop trying to steer the debate. Try and read the article. Deary me
Btw I have been smashing the hun since the day I was born. I will stop the day they die. There is still some reflex action akin to the headless chicken.
When that scabby beast is dead and thrown to the dugs. Only then will I ignore them entirely.
HH
Jobo Baldie,
Thanks! And that was some tee shot.
And thank you to everyone else who has commented on my photos. It was a great day and so much fun to be involved with. I’m sure I said this last year – but I don’t know how the committee keep improving the event every time.