The trouble football people have with contracts

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You have to wonder about football people sometimes when they appear to not know the difference between a contract and something which is not a contract.  A contract is a signed document committing one or more parties to do something.  For example, Lassad Noiuoiu and Celtic signed a contract committing the player to perform the duties of a footballer and committing Celtic to provide pay and conditions.

Employers can also contractually agree to pay employees money for fulfilling their job, over and above their Contract of Employment, by simply writing the terms down, signing the document and handing it over to the employee.  For a football player, this type of additional contract would need to be registered with the relevant Football Association and tax would be due on it, or else the Karma Police will come round and leave you in tears.

Speaking about his attempts to sign Noiuoiu, Levante’s president said, “During 30 hours of negotiations we closed the transfer with faxes and documents between the two parties”.

“Two parties”, “faxes and documents”?  Let’s be specific, the two parties would need to be Levante and Lassad Noiuoiu and the documents would need to be a Contract of Employment, otherwise it appears that Levante have been the victim of an agent trying to make a deal happen when he was not in control of events.

It will be a bitter pill to swallow for Levante, who appear to have acted with good faith throughout, but as Celtic fans have long known, a new signing is not a new signing until he is running around a football field.

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  1. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    TET,

     

    stewaeds enquiery, the vatican doesnt have a team in any fifa tournament.

  2. celticrollercoaster loves Wee Oscar's Green Bucket Army on

    jude2005 is Neil Lennon \o/

     

    22:54 on

     

    6 September, 2012

     

     

    Yes indeed!!

     

     

    Wee Oscar’s Green Bucket Army

     

     

    HH

     

     

    CRC

  3. BadaB

     

     

    If the new whatever they call themselfs go bust again, and it could well be on the cards, as it looks like they are going to get shafted again, once they weigh in with a few bob to the Chukie fund.

     

     

    I wonder who the msm will blame this time ?

  4. canamalar

     

     

    The answer was Lichtenstein.

     

     

    I was being facetious when I said the Vatican!

     

     

    Amen!

  5. mammymabawsburst on

    gordybhoy64

     

     

    Better get back, I can hear the mincing steps of some Turkish Delight and Black Russian dancers on the marble floor!

  6. Not read back but I was just going to my bed and noticed that there was a program coming on Sky Atlantic called Hunderby. Didn’t know Queens Park were playing tonight but I will check it out in the morning. Maybe the night shift can do updates.

  7. Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan supports Kano 1000 on

    Good Evening,

     

     

    My sister sent me a text last night in which she revealed that she had rceived a message from someone she had never met and had never spoken to. The effect of the text was that the skin and blister felt very humbled and dead chuffed.

     

     

    The text came from the mother of Niamh Curry– the little 5 year old girl who sadly didn’t win her fight with Neuroblastoma and who quietly slipped away in the night a few months ago.

     

     

    My sis had sent her a message on Niamh’s facebook page– just sending condolences and offering some kind words– on the night Niamh died, and this was a belated reply.

     

     

    I want to make sure that each and everyone of us knows the detail of that reply , because this post is not about me or my sister or even Niamh.

     

     

    It is about…… YOU!

     

     

     

    Less than a year ago, I would bet that the majority of Celtic fans would not be able to tell you what Neuroblastoma was. The position is very different today.

     

     

    That changed because of two things that happened simultaneously.

     

     

    The first was a heart felt plea from Stevie Knox whose wee boy Oscar had just been diagnosed. Stevie explained his condition and put a plea out on here for those of us who could to donate blood….. because Oscar had needed blood and it was in such shortage in Northern Ireland that the blood had to come from Scotland.

     

     

    The second? Well the second was the fight against the disease by a remarkeable wee girl called Vanessa Riddle who has defied all and every set of odds in staying alive. Vanessa is an older child, and older children… well lets just say that their chances are less than good,

     

     

    However the real point of this post is to focus on the effect that the Vanessa Riddle campaign for funds had…….. an effect that went way beyond Vanessa and her immediate family.

     

     

    Picture the scene in your head when you are told that your child- of any age- has a violent cancer which is terminal but will not be treated here under certain circumstances. Think of the stomach lurch that comes with the doctors trying to tell you that the chances of survival are say 15% or even less. Thinlk of the slight ray of hope when you are told that the cancer can be treated elsewhere….. but that it will cost hundreds of thousands of pounds…. which you don’t have, and how you would initially react to someone saying ” but if you make an appeal for funds, people will give……”.

     

     

    It would be hard to take in under normal circumstances, but Dear Lord God almighty, how hard must it be to take it all in under those circumstances?

     

     

    Vanessa Riddle had to raise £500,000.

     

     

    I remember getting the call telling me of Vanessa’s story and the suggestion being made that perhaps I could write about it on CQN and see if I could drum up some support amongst Celtic fans. Now to be clear, other Celtic fans were also contacted on Kerrydale Street and elsewhere– and so a few of us started to write about Vanessa Riddle– because Vanessa herself was a Celtic fan having been quietly visited by the team some time earlier.

     

     

    That night, her totaliser stood at £9,000 or so.

     

     

    Again I have to stress that others, especially the whole of the town of Troon, started to raise money like fury. After Vanessa had been on TV and had gone to meet the players at Lennoxtoun, she was fetted and hosted by both the SFA and by Rangers.

     

     

    But… it was the role of Celtic Football Club and the fans of Celtic Football Club which created the Vanessa Riddle legacy and phenomenon.

     

     

    Vanessa won the Just Giving Campaign of the month just once– for the one full month her campaign ran below total– because within a week or so after that one full month, she was able to smash through her target.

     

     

    She is still collecting and the Just giving total now stands at over £735,000– and I know that there were donations– large donations that never went through the just giving page.

     

     

    By this time, Celtic and the Celtic faithful had taken an interest in Neuroblastoma. The profile of the disease and the Neuroblastoma Alliance had shot through the roof.

     

     

    The campaign for Niamh Curry started.. some of you may remember the idea of the Niamh Curry Pledge– where the performance of the team influenced the amount given.

     

     

    As I said– sadly — wee Niamh didn’t make it.

     

     

    I will confess to shedding a tear when Vanessa broke through her target…. and crying a small bucket when I got the news of Niamh’s passing.

     

     

    Now we have Oscar, Alfie Sharpe from Kilmarnock and many more kids with this dreadful but treatable disease.

     

     

    And so I come to the message from Mrs Curry– it was simply this.

     

     

    She wanted to thank me and my sis for our help, kind words and condolences.

     

     

    However she wanted a message passed on which was that she wanted to thank everyone in green and white– for all the support which was given to Niamh and the whole family by this remarkeable group of people who follow a football team.

     

     

    She also pointed out that when her family were at a real low, when Niamh was scheduled to start school with her other friends but couldn’t, when there was a real sense of doom and gloom– the whole family got a sudden and unexpected boost because they saw money and good wishes start to flood in from the supporters of Glasgow Celtic Football Club.

     

     

    These were people they had never met, didn’t know, had no personal connection with, but because the Celtic Family moved en masse the Curry’s burden was eased.

     

     

    Long after Niamh’s death, the Curry’s are still campaigning– and as I understand it the money raised in her name– and still being raised— was then passed on for the benefit of another child with the same condition. Mrs Curry says in her message that she is excited and delighted that Celtic PLC and the fans of Celtic Football Club have taken Neuroblastoma on as an official charity.

     

     

    However think of this.

     

     

    A year or so on, there are still more children being diagnosed with this dreadful disease, and still more parents having that stomach lurching conversation about chances, raising money, putting out an appeal.

     

     

    But now there is a new element– and forgive me if I poke a little fun at a remarkeable reality. Imagine being such a parent, getting that news, being spoken to about appeals and raising money and then someone gently asking……. ” I don’t suppose you or anyone in your family supports Celtic”?

     

     

    At such a time it seems a ludicrous question, and worthy of the strangest of looks and an incredulous reaction.

     

     

    Yet the reality is, the fans of Celtic Football Club have become a real force for hope and for good for anyone who has to face this disease.

     

     

    You, the guys at the quiz night for Vanessa, those who raised money for Niamh, and most importantly the guys involved in the forefront of raising money for Oscar— you are the heroes in this story and it is to you I have to pass on the message from Mrs Curry.

     

     

    Individually and collectively you have no idea what the impact of Celtic the Club can be…. it goes way beyond the donation of a few quid……the movement of the fans in wanting to combat this disease for these children touches the soul and the very being of family members, neighbours, friends, the kids themselves and many many more– people you have never met and will never meet.

     

     

    That is both astonishing and outstanding— yet it is just what Walfrid set out to achieve.

     

     

    So please continue to support Oscar and any other kids with this condition, and fight against Neuroblastoma in general. I am in awe of the efforts and the strength of purpose for the Oscar campaign and have huge admiration for the guys involved– just huge!

     

     

    Quite separately there are moves afoot at Celtic Park to take some huge initiatives on the charity front– moves which will grab significant media attention and which will hopefully move people far beyond any ordinary charity appeal whilst also celebrating our charity based routes and the fact that we are the most remarkeable football club in the world. The world is about to learn that Celtic are coming and what that means.

     

     

    The first part of that initiative is coming shortly.

     

     

    In the interim, keep fighting for Oscar– if everyone going to see Celtic play Barca on 7th November gives a fiver then Oscar reaches his traget– it is that simple.

     

     

    I am incredibly proud of being a follower of this football club and being part of a movement which 125 years on really does make a difference to the lives of total strangers and good people who have needs and troubles that I can’t begin to imagine.

     

     

    It is just an honour and a blessing to be part of such a club.

     

     

    Lastly, I don’t normally apologise for the lengths of my posts, but I am sorry if this has been long– but it was necessary, as you all need to know the effect Celtic has had on the family of a wee girl we did some fighting for.

     

     

    Thankyou for reading, take care and remember we really do make a difference.

     

     

    BRTH

     

     

     

    PS Honestly if you skimmed through this or jumped by it because of length– please go back and take the time to read it.

     

     

    Cheers.

  8. GorbalsTam

     

    The No6 for Celtic tonight was, I’m sure, Jackson Irvine.

     

    I agree with the others that D.Fisher had a very good game at rb.

     

    The No10, McGregor, wasn’t too shabby either.

     

    I thought Sporting were the better team, but we could have sneaked a draw.

     

    The youngsters at the back will be kicking themselves at the way SL got their second goal.

     

    One SL player pressing three of our backs, and we give the ball back to the keeper to punt up the park, but it was a poor kick. Lands at a SL player and he skelps a daisycutter in of the post. You could see by their reactions that the backs should have done better. Yes, the keeper had a poor kick out, but he shouldn’t have got it in the first place.

     

    The SL No11’s for touch on ball for their first goal was sublime.

     

    Great nights entertainment.

     

     

    SPF

  9. jude2005 is Neil Lennon \o/ on

    The singing de tec

     

     

    Could you translate your post at 18.46pm im baffled my friend!

  10. Tallybhoy,

     

    Thanks for the info. Ive seen pics of the Cinque Terre & it does seem beautiful. Surely worth a visit, but then that’s true of many (most?) parts of Italy: will certainly keep it in mind. BTW visited Sicly nearly 2 years ago & was wowed.

  11. BadaB

     

     

    Even the dugs on the street know that Chuckie and the huns should have never been given a licence.

     

     

    What would it take to see the relevant papers to find out who has bent the rules to allow them in.

     

     

    I don’t know if the sfa are covered by the freedom of info act, but being a national body, I assume they are.

     

     

    Maybe somebody should ask them.

     

     

    They were asked about all the relevant investors, nothing came forth, that would have been a warning signal for me, but, huns are just that, huns.

     

     

    Aye ok, here;s your licence, gonny no da that again !!!!

     

     

    Fit and proper, they deserve each other.

  12. BRTH

     

     

    A very touching and moving piece.

     

     

    The generosity of the Celtic family is second to none – and will continue to be so.

     

     

    HH!!

  13. BRTH-Humbling stuff,the power of this Club is remarkable,with a lot of help from the likes of yourself.HH.

  14. Guys BRTH has put into words something I couldnt write down n share as I dnt have the words etc but I feel honoured to be part of the Wee Oscar 4 Life Campaign team to try and help Oscar in some way.

     

     

    So please join us on 29th September and 17th November at events we are holding (more details to come)

     

     

    I also plan to keep campaigning for the Neuroblastoma Alliance in anyway I can!!

     

     

    Keep up the fight everyone

  15. neil canamalar lennon hunskelper extrordinaire

     

     

    22:05 on

     

    6 September, 2012

     

    thoroughly enjoyed the nextgen game tonight, unlucky to be beat 1-2 thought we deserved the draw but no more, was a wee bit puzzled why we never used any subs. Dont know the bhoys name but the right back IMO was MOTM, he appeared to be struggling and thought he should have been replaced.

     

    Sporting players played a wee bit better one touch stuff and used 5 subs, they’re No 10 was the best on the par.

     

    All in all a better way to spend a couple of hours than the pub or telly.

     

    hail hail

     

     

     

     

    Agree was quite an entertaining game. Thought our lads didn’t use the full width of the park first half but second half wing play was much improved. Like big number 9. Wish he was a wee bit older and more experienced as what we need right now up front. Most of the stuff fired at hm stuck and he held the ball up well.

     

     

    First time I had sight of the young team and was quite impressed.

     

     

    Ps was their keeper Vitor Baias son?? He was a cheat with the time wasting at the end. Deliberately threw the ball into play at the free kick in injury time so two balls were on pitch at same time and play had to be stopped. And when was the last time you saw a keeper take cramp !!!!

     

     

    Hail! Hail!

  16. Brogan etc…

     

     

    Keep telling it like it is, more power to your pen.

     

    …………………………..

     

     

    Take care and god bless Timland.

     

    An education as always.

     

    HH

  17. Canamalar,

     

    When I wrote “just like on here”, I didn’t mean the “shut your gob” bit but the crazy accusation of fascism.

     

    Whoever has “identified my capitalist ideals as fascist” could identify an elephant as a gnat. I don’t have “capitalist ideals” (just remind me BTW when I’ve even mentioned capitalism): capitalism is not about ideals – it’s simply a system of economic organisation. It’s not a political system, tho’ historically, it normally leads to democracy. My ideals are not capitalist but Christian – or Catholic if you prefer: of course, I fall short in practice.

     

    I’ll be out of contact over the weekend, so if you want to post a reply that I’ll read, leave it to Monday – but if you just want to let off steam, ignore that.

  18. jude2005 is Neil Lennon \o/ on

    Ive sent 2 letters to the Letters page in the D R about wee Oscars plight and children like him ie Olivia Downie who died. None of them made the Readers Letters page.

     

     

    Im not looking for glory im just trying to get across my feeling and the feelings of you folks on here. I phoned to ask why my letters didnt make the Readers Letters page got fobbed off and told to write a letter which I wont when i see stupid letters abt some footballer going to dv4 and earning 5k a week.

     

     

    I sent it to the E T who did print it also the Sunday Post (mrs j fav paper) so i hope to see it there on Sunday.

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