None of you will be surprised at today’s opinion from the Court of Session in Edinburgh that Rangers’ deal with Ticketus cannot be set aside, despite some absolutely pitiful reporting to the contrary. It’s fine to get things wrong every now and then, we all get Duff information on occasion, but please….
It’s worth recording, Ticketus may only have paid £20m + vat but the tickets they own are worth in the region of £40m. High risk investments require a high return.
Rangers’ administrators argued that the deal inhibited their ability to rescue the company but the heroic Blue Knights submitted a bid accommodating Ticketus, undermining the administrators’ argument. If only the Blue Knights were in a position to strike a deal with Craig Whyte they could be regarded as helping the situation instead of being hapless fools.
Next up is HMRC, who have not capitulated and agreed to accept a few pennies in the pound. They have not agreed to accept anything less than all monies owed. Soon after that we will hear that no court has been able to set aside Craig Whyte’s security over Ibrox. The most underappreciated man no longer in Scotland remains the only person with a reasonable chance of phoenix-ing Rangers.
The first 26,000 (approx.) tickets sold to each Rangers game for the next three years are owned by Ticketus. In the event a phoenix occurs, Rangers will have to revert back to budgets from their glory days of the 1950s – we will soon be told this is a great omen.
If you are going to Ibrox on Sunday, take care and enjoy your visit. Take photographs of the occasion and send them in, we’ll perhaps use them on a future edition of CQN Magazine. It may prove to be the end of an era.
If you’ve not read the article below, about one of Jinky’s great performances, do so now.
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benjybhoy mul
You’ll be safe in the Tall Cranes on Craigton Road ( next one along from Helen St) for a beer
gallagher 20:42
Ah no worries m8ty, I think my bhoy has entered that huffy stage, he hardly talks to me now, and took that penalty decision a lot harder than I did last week.
You know it in their voice.
HH m8
Gutted if one of my fellow tims is behind the celtictaxcase blog
After my 1st read I loved it, wanted it to be a real bad ass Hun with a chip on their shoulder, although I knew it was too humorous for a Hun to invent
Too creative for a hun!
Good stuff none the less, in this world of good vs evil, creation vs destruction, ying and yang, Tim and Hun , ticketus vs hun, Hun vs Hun ( at paisley rd toll 5pm Sunday) party and be safe on Sunday
MWD found out what is a sad reality when you are not a knuckle dragger on soon to be old old firm day! Be safe and happy bhoys!
From e-tims “after 54 minutes the Rangers support will put down their Union flags and make the shape of the letter T with their hands, waving it towards the Free Broomloan. A bit of research shows what this sign means”.
Give up.
What does it mean?
I’m guessing it’s not tax.
Emu
I think all ST sales would still go to Ticketus.
I’m sure Ticketus would have insurance if RFCIA
could not play at Ibrox.
AndyM,
I think it is a reference to all of their Tained tropies..
Lubo.
coorslad
Crack on that’s why i posted it up, i’ll take great delight in hearing it sometime in the future at a game,socially or wherever. To be clear i’d love to take the credit for the lyrics but i got it from my son who in turn grabbed it from the ether somewhere. If i get any youtube type links i’ll post them up.
HH
Gordon64 on 23 March, 2012 at 20:53 said:
Whitaboot Harry??
up_over_goal 20:50
heh,
Adam is going to be a big player for Celtic. Lustig has a point to prove. ;)
We need Big Strong Men
VP
I’ll fill you in tomorrow about the mad Mingavie born Irishman.
It’s Friday night footie quiz time. 5 rounds of all things Celtic!!!
Round 1 follows
CRC
bt get onto reverse missionaries bbc 2 now !!
Good evening friends. Just in time I see….
Jobo
Round 1: If You know your Celtic history?
(2pts per correct answer if you are first to answer correctly, 1pt if you answer correctly but not first. One submission only per round)
1 Who was the Celtic manager when we won the Coronation Cup?
2 Which English team did Martin O Neill finish his footballing career at?
3 Who was the Celtic captain that lifted the Coronation Cup?
4 Which English team did we sign Andy Payton from?
5 Name the 3 managers that took charge of Celtic in the season 1992/93?
6 What was the short lived Celtic mascot that preceded Hoopy?
7 Name the 3 Celtic players that have been red carded against the Huns under the management of Neil Lennon?
Re Ibrox, whats the one thing we know as a given fact before a balls kicked?
The huns will have the veins pumping out of their heads as they run out onto the pitch, ‘prepared for war’ as one gable wall in Belfast still reads.
As much as it pains to say it, believe it and think it, we HAVE to pick the team with that in the forefront of our minds.
I think we should probably go 1 up top (never said that for any SPL game).
5 across the midfield, Wanyama being the first name on the team sheet in the middle. Oh for Kayal..
I fear Lennon will do just that but go with Samaras up front clinging on that increasingly distant memory of January 2011. My feelings toward Samaras have much subsided since he came out and admitted he didnt think he was much good up front and then went on to explain why he liked playing on the left.
I appreciate that honesty and it was refreshing to hear, because he wasnt running out on that pitch, not scoring or doing much else and sauntering off thinking ‘im great’ like our very own, beloved Gary Caldwell would.
I happen to agree with him, that he is a bit of a weapon on the left.
Who though, should we pick out of;
Brozek – Unknown quantity. Awfully big risk to put someone like that and someone the players dont know in an unfamilar territory could elimate any cohesion from our play. On the other hand whilst the hun management might know a bit about him having scouted him, the hun players wont. Do they sit off, close him down, show him left or show him right? That uncertainty could just be crucial.
Stokes – Does he have the positional discipline or knowhow to lead the line by himself? He had the opportunity to show his manager why he has been wrong for 2 years in leaving him out of most big games last week and flopped big time, although he harried marginally more than Hooper.
Hoops – I think we are all agreed he needs a spell on the sidelines. He looks jaded and out of ideas. The last time he looked so lethargic a spell on the sidelines made his season – should we bench him now and then ask the question about why it happens at a later time? Should we ask him to give us whatever is left in the tank for 90 more minutes in the knowledge the lad is damned clinical in games he has the right level of motivation and focus for? (chose to word it that way deliberately).
Round 1: If You know your Celtic history?
(2pts per correct answer if you are first to answer correctly, 1pt if you answer correctly but not first. One submission only per round)
1 Who was the Celtic manager when we won the Coronation Cup? McGrory
2 Which English team did Martin O Neill finish his footballing career at? Wycomme
3 Who was the Celtic captain that lifted the Coronation Cup? Evans
4 Which English team did we sign Andy Payton from? Middlesborough
5 Name the 3 managers that took charge of Celtic in the season 1992/93? Connor, McCari, Brady
6 What was the short lived Celtic mascot that preceded Hoopy?
7 Name the 3 Celtic players that have been red carded against the Huns under the management of Neil Lennon? Izzy, Mulgrew, Brown
1 Who was the Celtic manager when we won the Coronation Cup?
McGrory
2 Which English team did Martin O Neill finish his footballing career at?
Wycombe
3 Who was the Celtic captain that lifted the Coronation Cup?
Jock Stein
4 Which English team did we sign Andy Payton from?
Barnsley
5 Name the 3 managers that took charge of Celtic in the season 1992/93?
Liam Brady, Frank Connor, Lou Macari
6 What was the short lived Celtic mascot that preceded Hoopy?
Hector
7 Name the 3 Celtic players that have been red carded against the Huns under the management of Neil Lennon?
Emilio Izaguirre, Charlie Mulgrew, Fraser Forster
1 McGrory
2. Wycombe
3. McPhail
4. Ipswich
5. Macari, Jordan, Burns
6.
7. Foster, Brown, ???
Jobo
hunsfc-love the queen but won’t pay her.
Have you tried The Market Inn? I’ve always found it OK and generally hun free.
Who was the Celtic manager when we won the Coronation Cup? McGrory
2 Which English team did Martin O Neill finish his footballing career at? Fulham
3 Who was the Celtic captain that lifted the Coronation Cup? Jock Stein
4 Which English team did we sign Andy Payton from?
Boro
5 Name the 3 managers that took charge of Celtic in the season 1992/93? Brady Connor Macari
6 What was the short lived Celtic mascot that preceded Hoopy? Coisty
7 Name the 3 Celtic players that have been red carded against the Huns under the management of Neil Lennon? Brown, Forster, Rogne
1 Who was the Celtic manager when we won the Coronation Cup?McGrory
2 Which English team did Martin O Neill finish his footballing career at?Fulham
3 Who was the Celtic captain that lifted the Coronation Cup?Big Jock
4 Which English team did we sign Andy Payton from?Burnley
5 Name the 3 managers that took charge of Celtic in the season 1992/93?Brady,Jordan,
6 What was the short lived Celtic mascot that preceded Hoopy?Vince The Parrot!
7 Name the 3 Celtic players that have been red carded against the Huns under the management of Neil Lennon? Izzy,Forster,Mulgrew
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My team for Sunday:-
ME
Wicussin Embdy Wecusspal E.Boywivan Forrest
Bhoyinashop Niece Bharman B.inlaw
Sammi
Result: 1 – 4 Subs BigVic
Round 1: If You know your Celtic history?
(2pts per correct answer if you are first to answer correctly, 1pt if you answer correctly but not first. One submission only per round)
1 Who was the Celtic manager when we won the Coronation Cup?
Jimmy McGrory
2 Which English team did Martin O Neill finish his footballing career at?
Nottingham Forest
3 Who was the Celtic captain that lifted the Coronation Cup?
Bertie Peacock
4 Which English team did we sign Andy Payton from?
Burnley
5 Name the 3 managers that took charge of Celtic in the season 1992/93?
Liam Brady, Joe Jordan, Frank Connor
6 What was the short lived Celtic mascot that preceded Hoopy?
Michael Kelly
7 Name the 3 Celtic players that have been red carded against the Huns under the management of Neil Lennon?
Charlie Mulgrew, Fraser Forster, Dan Majstorovic
Mostly guesses. Hopless before ’96.
TGSC,
Sailing On….
Round 1: If You know your Celtic history?
(2pts per correct answer if you are first to answer correctly, 1pt if you answer correctly but not first. One submission only per round)
1 Who was the Celtic manager when we won the Coronation Cup?
McGrory
2 Which English team did Martin O Neill finish his footballing career at?
Wycombe
3 Who was the Celtic captain that lifted the Coronation Cup?
Evans
4 Which English team did we sign Andy Payton from?
Barnsley
5 Name the 3 managers that took charge of Celtic in the season 1992/93?
Macari, Connor, Brady
6 What was the short lived Celtic mascot that preceded Hoopy?
7 Name the 3 Celtic players that have been red carded against the Huns under the management of Neil Lennon?
Izaguirre, Mulgrew, Forster
HH
TLK
1 McGrory
2 Forest
3
4 Barnsley
5 Brady, Craig, Macari
6
7 Mulgrew, Brown, forster
Paul67,
Others may have commented already, but the tenor of your article does not reflect the decision released today at the Court of Session.
The judgement is not an easy read and fairly involved in places but I’d summarise my view of it as follows:-
1. The Court has refused to give a direction in relation to the ability of the Administrators to tear up, specifically, the Ticketus contract (due principally to the Court not having sufficient detail on the commercials involved (i.e. detail of the bidders offers) to justify this).
2. The Court has provided general guidance on the approach of the Court if the Administrator chose to deny a contract and the matter was subsequently challenged at the Court by a concerned creditor (e.g. Ticketus). In very simple terms, the Court has said it would not easily rule against the Administrator’s actions.
3. The Court has opined that Ticketus’ arrangements are personal to The Rangers Football Club plc. In other words, those arrangements would not be binding on any newco that played football from Ibrox.
4. The Court has not involved itself with the contention by the Administrators that the Ticketus’ arrangements fall foul of company law (specifically those directed at financial assistance for public limited companies) and could be annulled.
5. It appears Ticketus have sought to rely on principles of English law (on the basis their agreements with The Rangers Football Club plc are stated to be English law) being applied on matters concerning assets based in Scotland. The Court has not supported that view (this is what the ‘trust’ arrangements discussed in detail in the judgement are all about).
6. If a creditors contract was torn up, the creditor would have a claim for breach of contract. That claim would be against the company in administration and for damages. If Ticketus, as appears the case, is an unsecured creditor – what is the difference. They will be either an (a) an unsecured creditor for their entitlement to monies under their contract or (b) an unsecured creditor for their entitlement to damages under their contract. Unless their contract is annulled (see comment 4 above), they still are heavily involved in any CVA arrangement.
Where does this leave things? I expect it is but one judgement in what will become a long list of judgements as matters take their course.
Ticketus will have deep pockets and will likely challenge any attempt to leave them without their financial return to the highest courts. All of this will cost a lot of money and take a lot of time. It’s a mess, with no sign of clarity coming any time soon.
1 Who was the Celtic manager when we won the Coronation Cup?
Jimmy McGrory
2 Which English team did Martin O Neill finish his footballing career at?
Norwich
3 Who was the Celtic captain that lifted the Coronation Cup?
Evans
4 Which English team did we sign Andy Payton from?
Barnsley
5 Name the 3 managers that took charge of Celtic in the season 1992/93?
Connor, Macari, Jordan
6 What was the short lived Celtic mascot that preceded Hoopy?
7 Name the 3 Celtic players that have been red carded against the Huns under the management of Neil Lennon?
Forster, Brown, Mulgrew.
Only briefly jumping in. Busy night ahead. But i have a question:
Does anyone remember the huns fighting wae each other at the st paddys game of 90 or 91 when we humped them 3-0?
I wiz only a kid at the time.
Kinda get the 2 & 3 nil games mixed up in memory. They were after quick succession and we papped them oot the cup. Hurlock other ugly huns sent aff along wae Wdowczyk scoring a screamer.
Did I imagine those bams murdering each other?
It has always haunted ma psyche & formed my subjective impression of them ever since…a dark menacing savage tribe of slavering maniacs!
1. Jimmy McGrory
2. Fulham
3. Jock Stein
4. Middlesbrough
5. Lou Macari, Joe Jordan, Liam Brady
6.
7. Samaras, Kayal, Hooper
1 jimmy mcgrory
2 Fulham
3 jock stein
4 Middlesborough
5 Brady Connor macari
6 Fran and Anna
7 Forster Mulgrew Brown
Some very good shouts on skipper for the coronation cup – Evans, Stein, Peacock – could be any one of them!!!!
Gallagher,sound Pal…
BT,im broke to the bone…
Jane Lewis @JaneLewisSport Close
It’s emerged #Rangers have received payments totalling £30.5 million from Ticketus! Whyte also sold season tickets from 2014 – 15 in Sept
go’on yisel Jane!
EWO
Any of your lot going on Sunday?
Green Lantern,
the markets the place I’ll probably go after the game, It’s prob my local, it’s there or the horseshoe, anywhere else Is a no go. the Markets not as good as It used to be though and as I said in my last post, It’s where the huns will come hunting, I’ll watch it at one of my pals house first then go In, we’re all tims and you can sing and shout what you want, not a pub In Ayr that you can do that, the towns crying out for a pub or social club.
Answers to round 1
Jimmy McGrory
Fulham
Jock Stein
Middlesbrough
Brady, Connor, Macari
Vince the Parrot
Forester. Mulgrew and Izaguirre
Hi Mr Paul
Any chance we could change the quiz night to about 2 o’clock on a Tuesday this time does not suit?
And the scores on the Green & White scoreboard
hamiltontim 14
setting free the bears 10
Celtic_First 10
Celtic Soul Brother 9
TSoAL 9
The Lizard King 7
Tom McLaughlin 6
Factus 8 5
The Good Ship Celtica 5
Eyes Wide Open 5
Jobo Baldie 3