We had an interesting couple of announcements from the Scottish Premier League yesterday. Safe Standing areas, where instead of a seat, spectators have a crush barrier in front of them, is no longer against league rules. Before the introduction of standing areas council Health and Safety officials would need to give approval, as do the police. Council approval should be straightforward, crush barriers separating each row of spectators make the environment safe, but I’m less sure the police will be keen.
Policing huge stadiums with seated spectators is straightforward compared to policing standing fans. Disturbances tend to cause those involved to stand up, drawing immediate attention to the incident, while knowing exactly who is sitting on which seat would allow transgressors of the Scottish Governments new interpretation on making the sign of the cross to be pursued after the event.
League rules (note: not the law of the land) have also been updated to clarify the definition of “Unacceptable Conduct” as ‘using words, conduct or displaying any writing or other thing which indicates support for, or affiliation to, or celebration of, or opposition to an organisation proscribed in terms of the Terrorism Act 2000’.
New rules on how clubs are expected to tackle Unacceptable Conduct, with fresh procedures, if necessary, have also been introduced. Clubs are now required to bring occurrences of Unacceptable Conduct to the Match Commander. Failure to do so will bring the club into breach, should an incident subsequently be reported, by TV spectators, for example.
Clubs are also charged to “Take reasonably practical steps, including consultation with police, to identify those who engage in Unacceptable Conduct”, which creates obvious dissonance with the new Safe Standing Area policy.
We’ll see how these rules work out in practice but look out for an interesting consequence. Some Celtic fans are often cited as singing about the IRA (who are on the Proscribed list in their various historical formats) but they are not the supporters who sing most about that organisation(s). That ‘honour’ falls to Rangers fans, who are bound not to sing in “opposition to an organisation proscribed”.
The notion that Rangers (and let’s not forget Hearts) are compelled to identify and sanction any of their supporters caught “effin’ the IRA” in fear any TV viewer reports them is what keeps this country unique.
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Friend was listening and sent me this text.
Just coming down the road in the car and a caller on the radio has just came on and confirmed what i have been saying all along about this tax case . It is not in the taxmans favour for huns so go in2 admin cos they will get nothing not a penny. so he said (the caller) that its within the tax mans favour because he has in his job to take care of the queens money(that wasnt his exact words) so it would be to everyones benefit for a deal to be made. And D king said thats what he thinks is happening and that they are in the middle of doing it now but he is not sure.
Jockybhoy
Ok ya hun :)))
The point I was trying to make is that part, only part mind, of your post is dangerous in that it follows hun logic that the Celtic support are responsible for the new legislation because we had the audacity to question the bigotry of their song book.
BBC news tonight had an item where journalists were being tested on their knowledge of the laws of the game.
As an illustration, I suppose, of the difficulties they face, the clip was screened of Callum Murray being jostled and manhandled by Rangers players.
I wonder how many of the hacks correctly deduced that no action should be taken in this instance as the ref clearly was not intimidated.
More tricky than you might think, this refereeing lark!
hen1rik
Don’t you know that driving and using your phone is illegal…..
Dawell is the main man btw, he has a very good source at the bigot dome, when was the last time he got anything wrong ?
hen1rik says:
20 December, 2011 at 19:46
Friend was listening and sent me this text.
Just coming down the road in the car
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let me guess…he was on the “M8”, just “outwith” Glasgow? :)))
LuxCelt says:
20 December, 2011 at 19:40
I think this relates to players (THG for one) being cautioned that they may be in breach of the peace for blessing themselves in. Charges were never brought but the worlds press found out and the Protestant state of Scotland was ridiculed, rightly so. Yet not having learned from previous mistakes a high profile member of the Scottish Government mentioned that ‘blessing oneself in an aggressive manner could be considered offensive’ Apologise for the paraphrasing
Murdochauldandhay
This should be forwarded on to UEFA, that’s what Celtic is all about in Euro/friendly away games IMO
St patricks bhoy 19.00………..thanks for correction yes it would be around the 1958 mark as i could never understand why those people had to go to work on xmas day………seemed just like any other day to them….we still have this presbiterian thing still here..no xmas displays on their homes…hogmany was their big thing which i hated and still do,,always associated with “them”…..i have a wee snigger now and again when i see these numpties trying to resurect this dying hogmany thing on television….the biggest street party in the world etc etc………..whit a load of old tosh………hope it disapears
blantyretim says:
20 December, 2011 at 19:08
Reading back. I’m going to give Billy McNeill the benefit of the doubt. I heard his comments on shortbread driving home, all 15 seconds and he hardly sounded convincing. The main sports story was based around a tale of two ex Celtic/rangers managers ahead of next weeks game.
The psychological stuff has obviously already started, with ‘ole wally declaring big tests ahead for new owner/manager/player (almost in a kinda been in a vacuum for the last 7 months way), whilst Billy gets quoted on the conduct of our support. Oh and watty also trotted out that they should sign boyd, and keep jelavic – priceless from the guy who had to sell boyd in the first place.
Haven’t read anything in the papers so I may be wrong, but my initial thoughts from the broadcast were, total set-up – Billy McNeill being thrown a curved ball, and wally laying it thick in a way SDM could only dream of (reckon in his retirement and all that daytime TV he now watches he dreams of being a guest on the 70’s programme ‘Fantasy Island’). See through it.
Ok-boss.CSC
DUSHANBE BHILLY BHOY says:
20 December, 2011 at 19:50
hen1rik says:
20 December, 2011 at 19:46
Friend was listening and sent me this text.
Just coming down the road in the car
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let me guess…he was on the “M8″, just “outwith” Glasgow? :)))
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LoL, M8 mate these good old Scottish words eh
Must do better
jocky bhoy
I’m glad your’e switching to a phone, at least we can hope for brevity ;-) because there’s still much mistaken in your latest post.
You didn’t quite say Celtic were somehow to blame but implied we were, by ‘raising the stakes’ in challenging ‘their’ song book?. I repeat we didn’t and if only we had, we could have headed them off at the pass, on the central ‘crime’ of sectarianism, and wouldn’t now be finding new undefined
weekly terms, such as ‘political sectarianism’.
John Reid in 2008 very belatedly got involved with TFS only after a fan had the gumption to raise the matter to the Irish Parliament, Celtic PLC then tip toed, quietly back to into their corporate gazebo, and we heard no more, until UEFA eventually acted against Rangers.
I make no apology for posting again that since at least 1993, and Celtic’s new mission statement offensive ( let alone sectarian) songs are not sung inside Celtic Park aside from one possibly, two songs which contain a highly debatable ‘political reference.’ – But then you know this don’t you?
To imply Celtic have been asking Celtic fans to stop singing certain ‘songs’ for years is wrong, because there were no songs for them to stop singing, and as recently as this years AGM PL specifically only referred to, ‘political add ons’
I won’t even bother going into what Rangers did, because aside from various official Rangers sources vigorously defending the TFS and trying to argue ( just banter ) that it wasn’t sectarian, there’s nothing not a lot to go into.
The only bit I agree with you was the Tynecastle game, where the travelling Celtic Support sang up, having witnessed an attack on our manager, and clearly did so because of severe intimidation.
Quite what songs you expect to hear inside Celtic Park, sung by the Celtic fans on 28/12/11 is beyond me.
If you are waiting on an ancient repertoire that even the oldest of the fans have already forgotten, then you’ll be disappointed, because we always have been much more advanced than them, but then you already know this as well, don’t you?
Guidi on Snyder admits Bias against Celtic..Shocker!!!
But but but in quick wee Daweel dives in to stutter out
in Glaswenglish to offer a counterpoint before Delahun
steps in to sever all rational debate.
Hun like their speedo quick spontaniety in drawer pulled
Dignity the “small tax bill” it’s purpled airing in full view the
Wee Free crew their abhorrence any semblance the fleshy
delights of ‘Vegas on the Clyde’ and the riverboat Whyte chancers
pumping and dumping their pensioned investments unto a blue boilered
room of British Virgin Island floaty charge security.
A Moonbeams refrain with Christmas Kisses
….Awe_Naw …I think I love you.
HH
What I hate are these ghastly blue Christmas decorations which seem to be standard in North Ayrshire.
Like elaborate insect zappers.
Red, green, gold, white. That’s it.
THE EXILED TIM says:
20 December, 2011 at 19:50
hen1rik
Don’t you know that driving and using your phone is illegal…..
Dawell is the main man btw, he has a very good source at the bigot dome, when was the last time he got anything wrong ?
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Especially on that M8 oops sorry mate.
GOSW.
Must do better
Can we can legally call Huns Huns now, My mate Atilla will be so please. Ok You HUN horde go and sack Manchester, opps sorry i meant Rome of course.
this is the one..
seemingly big Billy had an article in the current bun…
I received a text re that… nothing that was sain or reported on snyde or shortbread…
thanks for responding and I take your point…
Just listened to a song called The Celtic Family on You Tube no bigoted words great music and tells us (celtic fans around the world) exactly what and why Celtic were founded for and after the past few days with the racist and bigoted law now having been adopted we can remind ourselves and our Family around the world what we really are about and what we as The Celtic Family stands for. Please listen to the words and if we can persuede the powers that be at Celtic Park to play it on the 28th Dec. it could really silence our critics.Please make you views on this song known to the powers that be at Celtic Park.
topkat says:
20 December, 2011 at 19:51
Your right, nothing as strange as some protestants in Scotland, we are Christians and we are not celebrating the birth of Christ because it’s a catholic thing,Strange indeed.
Hail Hail
The Public Accounts Committee are very highly critical of HRMC at the minute for not clawing back enough lost revenue , lost through various dubious means, so why the huns think HMRC will go lightly on them is beyond me.
BT/This is the one
A bit like Paul67 the other day I had cause to visit the hairdressers earlier. The choice of reading material was poor to say the least. The Star? No thanks. The Hamilton Advertiser? It’s just full of masonic/orange lodge notices. So that left me with The Sun, lesser of 3 evils.
It would appear that big Billy has indeed chosen to put the boot in sadly using the now well worn phrase, “I doubt whether these people are genuine supporters!”
angelgabriel says:
20 December, 2011 at 19:40
Your post started off perfectly normal then I thought I either lost you or you lost me so I read back again and I still cant work out the part you ended up being in the kitchen
hamiltontim says:
20 December, 2011 at 20:02
I hope you are getting two thirds the price mate – its only fair
hamiltontim says:
20 December, 2011 at 20:02,
What have I told you about Barbers floors? :-)
stpatricksbhoy says:
20 December, 2011 at 19:59
Christmas: Christ`s Mass. Definitely Catholic origin.
See; Martinmas and Michaelmas,the terms at University.
Similar situation in some ways to Glasgow Cathedral, which was built for the Mass.
EWO
As a result of hair growth from places which I never knew possible, sadly I am still charged full rates.
Old age doesn’t come alone!
You over on the 28th?
HT
the text came from BT snr, not very happy…
CT
O))
Luis Suarez found guilty of racially abusing Patrice Evra and is given an 8 game ban!!!!
Hail hail
CT
You told me they were great places and a source of much enjoyment for your good self.
Incidentally barbers have changed a great deal since you were last there :)
Why was the GB up at court for showing a banner with huns fc on it ,did the polis take offence and lift them .
hail hail
ibleed
Could this be the FA’s two fingers, to Sepp Blatter?
Re McNeill’s comments. I doubt if Mr Stein or indeed Martin O’Neil would have said“I doubt whether these people are genuine supporters!” Engage with the support Billy aren’t you the official club ambassador or is that a limited role that extends to placating the Laptop loyal and ensuring that the PLC spin is heard. Meet with the alleged dissident supporters groups discuss their perceived issues and try to find a common ground. Please stop condemning our own while remaining silent on many other issues surrounding our club. You are a Celtic legend / Ghod to the support use this influence to unite us
Twas Roseanne the nuns Cunningham who was straightarmed by her
party to deem any them too quick on the draw with their self blessings
as to be suspect of provocative gesturing in a sectarian manner.
Aggro-Blesso I believe became the cornerstone upon which the
Blessed Christine Graham (sudjudice bigot remarks) carved her headstone
epitaph : “We need to even up the Timmy numbers”
Come January…cometh the Truth.
Ha Ha.
hamiltontim says:
20 December, 2011 at 20:15,
What, you don’t get gas anymore? :-)
BT
Get the old man to slip him a laxative next time he goes up to speak at a Lion’s get together!
Put Suarez in the SPL and if he had racially abused an Irish Catholic, the SNP would have him as their poster boy and hailed a hero
fslb
No, the hun support made an official complaint when they heard about it so plod were obliged to arrest 2 tims on fabricated charges.
CT
Nope and some even have an indoor toilet :)
HT
seems he had one before he spoke to the currant bun…