Where we are and what next for Celtic

574

I’m out most of today and anticipate any number of events, so here’s a synopsis to help keep the various balls in play to mind.  Apologies for the enormous number of ‘ifs’ but there are so many imponderables:

It is still possible that the Green consortium will propose a CVA.  If they do, creditors will vote on it in mid-June and Rangers will be included in the SPL fixtures for next season, which will be issued before a creditors’ vote.  Green will need to come up with some cash to keep the CVA alive long enough to get to the creditor’s vote, this is likely to be his most immediate problem.

If he finds the money to last until mid-June and the CVA is accepted (it won’t be) Rangers will emerge from administration and take their place in the SPL next season.

If Green cannot find a backer to pay player wages and other costs until a CVA verdict is reached, Rangers will be liquidated this week.

Pop!

Once the decision has been taken not to pursue a CVA, whoever has control of the stadium can apply to the SPL to acquire the league share previously held by Rangers for entry into the league next season.

The SPL have asked Rangers to produce information relating to the alleged double contract issue in advance of the SPL general meeting tomorrow, hereafter known as Prima Facie Day.  League and member clubs will officially know if Rangers have rigged the system for over a decade, or not, or if they have refused to comply with SPL instructions.

Right now there is at least a 50% chance that Duff and Phelps will not attend the meeting on Wednesday and ask the SPL to reconvene next week to give them more time to conduct an asset sale.  Before the meeting, be it tomorrow or next week, Green, the Blue Knights, or an as-yet unnamed bidder, will make the best offer for the stadium and apply to the SPL to enter a Newco.

Neil Doncaster’s proposal will be discussed, as will any other suggested way forward and a vote will be taken.

While the alleged cheating may influence how some members vote, the disciplinary and Newco vote matters will take different paths.  Any disciplinary action will go through due process (you know how litigious they are).

Celtic will vote against Newco.  My best source reckons we are still outnumbered and that more lobbying is needed, but in all honesty, no one really knows how the vote will go.  We’ll come back to the consequences of this point.

If the SPL vote against Newco the story is likely to go quiet for a number of months.  At some point in the future someone is likely to apply to the Scottish Football League for a Newco, based at Ibrox, to enter the league.  Alternatively, an existing SFL club may buy or rent Ibrox, change name and move there.

If the SPL vote to allow a Newco access to the league next season, it will be subject to sanctions already imposed on Rangers, like the ban on player registrations (assuming the entire project is not killed by the club being thrown out of football as a result of the Court of Session case).  It will also be subject to any sanctions imposed due to the alleged cheating for over a decade.

Rangers currently have around 40 players registered.  If the company goes into liquidation all players can leave as free agents.  A Newco would be able to retain any players who didn’t want to leave, however, any player able to attract a competitive offer is likely to leave.  TUPE laws require the new employer (Newco) to maintain pay and conditions of any staff transferring from Rangers who choose to join Newco.

If a Judicial Panel find Rangers subverted Scottish football for over a decade, any Newco awarded Rangers SPL share would be liable for Rangers punishment.  This may well be expulsion from the SFA.  There is no set timescale for such hearings although the SFA have a new and faster process.

To summarise the (known) unknowns:

Charles Green doesn’t know if creditors will accept a CVA and will need to pay to find out.  He doesn’t know how the SPL will vote or what punishment a Judicial Panel would impose if Rangers are found to have cheated.

The SPL still don’t know if they will have an application to consider, and if they do, who it will come from.  They also don’t know how a Judicial Panel will punish Rangers or a Newco.

The SFA know nothing, apart, perhaps, from what school their staff went to.

Craig Whyte, Charles Green and his investors, the Blue Knights, Rangers management, players, staff and fans don’t know if there will be any football team playing at Ibrox again.

None of them know the most intriguing question of all, what is the next thing to arrive from left field (unknown, unknowns)?  No one believes the story is at an end.

So what about Celtic?

A future within Scotland is no longer tenable, no matter what happens.  Rangers are a busted flush.  They are either dead, fatally wounded or completely trashed.  The SPL is, to put it mildly, flawed.  We have outgrown the game here socially, morally and economically.  Scottish football holds nothing for us apart from straightforward access to the Champions League.  The possible vote and on-going inquiries will change nothing in this respect.

Celtic will have a future but it must be beyond Scotland.  It’s time to find another league and move.

Click Here for Comments >
Share.

About Author

574 Comments

  1. DontPatmadug on 29 May, 2012 at 16:13 said:

     

    Cara Sulieman ‏@carasulieman

     

     

    The sanctions available are set out in SFA rules as: fine, suspension, expulsion from Scottish Cup & termination of membership.

     

     

    ***

     

    That’ll be a fine then. Which they won’t pay.

  2. Usman Tariq ‏@UsmanTariq

     

    However, Lord Glennie reduced the decision of the appellate tribunal but not the disciplinary tribunal so embargo stays in place.

     

     

    I hope the FF’rs understand eventually that they have no club..

  3. Situation with the huns winning this case MUST mean the SFA have to act – no? Paul67 made it clear in a previous article they were acting outwith SFA/FIFA regulations by taking a national association to court. Anyone any idea on what should happen?

  4. Kayal33

     

     

    I am delighted! Everyone on here to a man said the transfer embargo was a sham of a decision, they should have been suspended or memebership terminated.

     

     

    Fifa will not allow this to take place.

     

     

    Stupid huns…

  5. IniquitousIV on

    Re the Duff and Duffer last statement:

     

    Miraculously, the “quantum” of the CVA has become the “amount”. I guess a penny in the pound (if that) does not rise to the level of a quantum.

  6. TOSB The road is a nightmare when it floods and the fields could be a boat park.

     

    Apparently they are continually having the floors repaired when its flooded kinda like a fourth rd scenario. Stupid huns indeed.

     

    Where abouts are you from I am round from fire station.

     

     

    HH

  7. Expect the appeal panel to impose a Scottish Cup ban or increase the fine. Mr Ogilvie probably engineered this whole thing.

     

     

    Rangers won’t be thrown out. No way.

  8. Despite the ruling, Rangers are still unable to sign players as they are under a separate registration embargo imposed by the Scottish Premier League for being in administration.

     

     

    lol!

     

     

    Stupid, stupid huns…

  9. FIFA/UEFA can’t be seen not to act on this appeal today.

     

    Otherwise Sion and their mad owner will sue them for ordering sanctions on his side.

     

     

    I think this is just about to go global!

     

    LMFAO

     

     

    HH

     

    /Bishop B

  10. charles kickham on

    has anyone picked up tne phone to UEFA / FIFA yet, i’m not sure if they read CQN

  11. Ellboy - I am Neil Lennon, YNWA. on

    To fudge or not to fudge that is the question for the SFA. However surely There can’t be any outcome here other than expulsion. FIFA rules are clear and must be enforced.

     

     

    Bye bye Rankers!

  12. The SFA articles specifically state they can hand out an alternative punishment as they see fit. Fifa steps in with a boot to the hun baws…

     

     

    Rangers have succeeded in court action seeking to overturn a player signing ban.

     

     

    The Ibrox club will have their case referred back to the Scottish FA’s appeal tribunal after the Court of Session decision on Tuesday.

     

     

    As a result of several rules breaches, the SFA’s judicial panel imposed a 12-month player registration embargo on the club.

     

     

    The Court of Session ruled on Tuesday that the sanction was not available to the panel.

     

     

    Now the case will be referred back to the SFA’s appeal tribunal, which previously rejected an attempt to overturn it.

     

     

    The club were awarded expenses at the hearing after the judge highlighted that there was no specific mention of the SFA applying a player signing ban on a club.

  13. celtic heritage on

    The stench of immorality of this whole situation is becoming nauseating. On the same day they offer creditors a CVA which they don’t know the amount of, and it depends on winning a litigation action, they are jubilant at over-turning a transfer embargo. It is winning at all costs – the money that should be used to settle creditors will be used to try and put a winning team on the pitch. No dignity. No apologies. It is all about them and win at all costs. I hope the SFA throw the book at them now – but no-one has so far so why will it change now. As Paul said earlier – it is time for us to move on. Only that will bring true justice. HH

  14. jock steins celtic on

    the longer things linger the better. it’ll be lack of money that finally kills the huns not the Sfa, SPL or any other scottish body.

  15. !!Bada Bing!! on

    If anyone is expecting Regan and the SFA to suddenly spring in to action,think again.

  16. If the SFA fold every decision can be taken to court, that guy was offside, we want the game replayed etc etc . Neil Lennon, I will sit in the dugout, no get tae F Mr Referee. No way they can allow that to happen!

     

     

    Just give the sentence that should have been given in the first place, suspend them for 3 years!

  17. But this judge ruling really doesn’t mean anything does it? The embargo still stands as under FIFA laws a club can’t bring their association to court – Sion?

  18. mighty tim on 29 May, 2012 at 16:21 said:

     

     

    MP stands next to the Allander Water, which hasn’t flooded since it was built. It would need to rise something like 10 feet to get over the protecting embankment. The water table might be high enough to give damp problems but not much more.

     

     

    The problem flood area is about 1-2 miles along the road below Bardowie village on the way to Torrance.

     

     

    The reason MP can’t be sold for housing is that the council has decided the local infrastructure won’t support another development after the massive Cala/Milne homes one that is due to be built. On the same ‘flood plain’ as it happens.

  19. South Of Tunis on

    Mmm —-

     

     

    Sion / The Swiss FA / Uefa / Fifa/ Swiss Civil Law / The Court of Arbitration in Sport…

     

     

    The SFA / UEFA either govern football in Scotland or they don’t !

  20. What a mess! It’s a crazy decision – a transfer ban may not be explicitly mentioned but wasn’t there a phrase that basically allowed any other penalty that was less than the maximum? And that’s why the appeal lost in the first place.

     

     

    The SFA could refuse to recognise this and keep the transfer ban in place. It could also sanction the club for taking the matter to court in the first place.

     

     

    It could go with the court and send the matter back to the Appeal Tribunal.

     

     

    The Appeal Tribunal can’t up the fine because it is already at the maximum. It has said that the offences don’t merit expulsion. So that leaves them with expulsion from the Scottish Cup or suspension from the SFA.

  21. merseycelt lmfao as the big house door slams shut on

    Yes, the SFA dont have the bottle to kill them but they are also a member association of UEFA/FIFA and they know what the UEFA/FIFA view is regarding referrals to the non-football courts.

     

     

    This makes it much harder to just defer to the court’s decision.

     

     

    Let’s not jump to conclusions.

     

     

    None of us know how this will be handled by Mr Regan who, I’m sure, is bricking himself right now!

     

     

    HH

  22. Fritz A. Grandold ‏@fritzagrandold

     

     

    Options available to appeal panel are expulsion, suspension or exclusion from Scottish Cup. Judge rules they must pick one.

     

     

    No fine available it seems

  23. In Ma .. Opinion…

     

     

    Mind..it’s only… An .. Opinion.

     

     

    This verdict by the C.O.S. reminds me of the

     

    Great Sion Debacle..o’ Yore!

     

     

    And.. Ye KNOW how that turned oot..when the Swiss F.A.

     

    Hoid aboot that Verdict..

     

     

    Fur . SION!

     

     

    Yep.. Time tae ask the question..

     

     

    Quo Vadis, S.F.A.???

     

     

    Where dae ye go, fae here??

     

     

    Wull ye take the High Road.. or.. the Low Road?

     

     

    Kojo

     

    Still, Laughin’

  24. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    weeminger,

     

    MP cant be developed because its a leasehold with conditions of use, kelvinside academy own the land and have set the conditions of use.

  25. Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon

     

     

    The huns think it is a victory, I think it is the final nail in their coffin.

  26. Big Swee walks on with Neil Lennon on

    What do the appeals body do when it was considered disproportionate regards the sanction to expel them?

  27. merseycelt lmfao as the big house door slams shut

     

     

    In the Sion case it was Fifa who had enough of the p1ssing about between the Swiss FA and Uefa and told them to punish them or be banned from world football.

  28. TheOriginalSadiesBhoy on

    mighty tim on 29 May, 2012 at 16:03 said:

     

     

    I’m not too far away from you – just up beyond Nethermains Rd.

  29. well hello there……

     

     

    Quote:

     

    Grant Russell ‏@STVGrant

     

    FIFA said just before verdict passed that Scottish FA will be told to take action so club “withdraws its request from the ordinary courts”

     

     

    DUM DUM DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHMMMM!!!!

  30. SFA now have the ball back in their court

     

     

    The tribunal attempted to find a way to assist Rangers as a preference to suspension or termination of TFOD membership of the SFA, this is the thanks the SFA got

     

     

    Now the SFA must act in accordance with theirs and UEFA’S rule book, no attempts at leniency this time

  31. The SFA will not be able to do their usual with this one.

     

     

    FIFA are watching. FIFA will already have told them what is to happen here.

     

     

    The rules are clear and unequivocal.

     

     

    The stupidity of D&P, who ironically are supposed to try and save the business, has brought about this situation.

     

     

    The SFA will have a stark choice.

     

     

    Save the Huns by not applying the black and white rules or sit back and watch FIFA suspend the whole association which means not National team or any club sides in Europe.

     

     

    Believe me FIFA will do that.

     

     

    The Huns are finished.

  32. Can I Have Raspberry On That on 29 May, 2012 at 16:23 said:

     

     

    Their club is finished Mate…the sham CVA today shows that, this ruling doesn’t change anything for the huns at all as far as I can see and could in fact hasten their end..

     

     

    Let’s hope so, I’m sick of the sight of them..

  33. This is like the biggest ever game of Pass the Parcel ever played! With each layer removed it gets closer to the prize. Armageddon for the Hun! When all the layers are stripped away, all that remains is who is left standing with the blame for burying them. Not a game that anyone in authority seems to want to win!