Where we are and what next for Celtic

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I’m out most of today and anticipate any number of events, so here’s a synopsis to help keep the various balls in play to mind.  Apologies for the enormous number of ‘ifs’ but there are so many imponderables:

It is still possible that the Green consortium will propose a CVA.  If they do, creditors will vote on it in mid-June and Rangers will be included in the SPL fixtures for next season, which will be issued before a creditors’ vote.  Green will need to come up with some cash to keep the CVA alive long enough to get to the creditor’s vote, this is likely to be his most immediate problem.

If he finds the money to last until mid-June and the CVA is accepted (it won’t be) Rangers will emerge from administration and take their place in the SPL next season.

If Green cannot find a backer to pay player wages and other costs until a CVA verdict is reached, Rangers will be liquidated this week.

Pop!

Once the decision has been taken not to pursue a CVA, whoever has control of the stadium can apply to the SPL to acquire the league share previously held by Rangers for entry into the league next season.

The SPL have asked Rangers to produce information relating to the alleged double contract issue in advance of the SPL general meeting tomorrow, hereafter known as Prima Facie Day.  League and member clubs will officially know if Rangers have rigged the system for over a decade, or not, or if they have refused to comply with SPL instructions.

Right now there is at least a 50% chance that Duff and Phelps will not attend the meeting on Wednesday and ask the SPL to reconvene next week to give them more time to conduct an asset sale.  Before the meeting, be it tomorrow or next week, Green, the Blue Knights, or an as-yet unnamed bidder, will make the best offer for the stadium and apply to the SPL to enter a Newco.

Neil Doncaster’s proposal will be discussed, as will any other suggested way forward and a vote will be taken.

While the alleged cheating may influence how some members vote, the disciplinary and Newco vote matters will take different paths.  Any disciplinary action will go through due process (you know how litigious they are).

Celtic will vote against Newco.  My best source reckons we are still outnumbered and that more lobbying is needed, but in all honesty, no one really knows how the vote will go.  We’ll come back to the consequences of this point.

If the SPL vote against Newco the story is likely to go quiet for a number of months.  At some point in the future someone is likely to apply to the Scottish Football League for a Newco, based at Ibrox, to enter the league.  Alternatively, an existing SFL club may buy or rent Ibrox, change name and move there.

If the SPL vote to allow a Newco access to the league next season, it will be subject to sanctions already imposed on Rangers, like the ban on player registrations (assuming the entire project is not killed by the club being thrown out of football as a result of the Court of Session case).  It will also be subject to any sanctions imposed due to the alleged cheating for over a decade.

Rangers currently have around 40 players registered.  If the company goes into liquidation all players can leave as free agents.  A Newco would be able to retain any players who didn’t want to leave, however, any player able to attract a competitive offer is likely to leave.  TUPE laws require the new employer (Newco) to maintain pay and conditions of any staff transferring from Rangers who choose to join Newco.

If a Judicial Panel find Rangers subverted Scottish football for over a decade, any Newco awarded Rangers SPL share would be liable for Rangers punishment.  This may well be expulsion from the SFA.  There is no set timescale for such hearings although the SFA have a new and faster process.

To summarise the (known) unknowns:

Charles Green doesn’t know if creditors will accept a CVA and will need to pay to find out.  He doesn’t know how the SPL will vote or what punishment a Judicial Panel would impose if Rangers are found to have cheated.

The SPL still don’t know if they will have an application to consider, and if they do, who it will come from.  They also don’t know how a Judicial Panel will punish Rangers or a Newco.

The SFA know nothing, apart, perhaps, from what school their staff went to.

Craig Whyte, Charles Green and his investors, the Blue Knights, Rangers management, players, staff and fans don’t know if there will be any football team playing at Ibrox again.

None of them know the most intriguing question of all, what is the next thing to arrive from left field (unknown, unknowns)?  No one believes the story is at an end.

So what about Celtic?

A future within Scotland is no longer tenable, no matter what happens.  Rangers are a busted flush.  They are either dead, fatally wounded or completely trashed.  The SPL is, to put it mildly, flawed.  We have outgrown the game here socially, morally and economically.  Scottish football holds nothing for us apart from straightforward access to the Champions League.  The possible vote and on-going inquiries will change nothing in this respect.

Celtic will have a future but it must be beyond Scotland.  It’s time to find another league and move.

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  1. Now we will see what the SFA are made off.

     

     

    Will they allow their sanctions to be overturned by a civil court in contravention of UEFA/FIFA rules?

     

     

    Mort

  2. South Of Tunis on

    Italian Prime Minister says he would like to see Italian football suspended for 2-3 years whilst it cleans itself up..

     

     

    Wonder if Uefa will view his comments as being political interference in football ?

  3. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    Hi all,

     

     

    Interesting chronology

     

     

    1) 1991 – Souness leaves club

     

     

    2) 2001 – Receives £30k from EBT (Allegedly !!!, Paul)

     

     

    3) 2001 – Signs Tugay and hands £1.2m over to the club who, allegedly, paid him £30k from an EBT a few weeks earlier.

     

     

    To quote Francis Urquhart ……………

     

     

    “You may very well think that Matty, I could not possibly comment”

     

     

    Meanwhile deid wood signs for Fleetwood

     

     

    Hail hail

  4. Huns may say they have won however the judge has not lifted the embargo.

     

     

    The Swiss FA by following a court direction and allowing Sion to play players registered whilst their embargo stood is what kicked that all off.

     

     

    Over to the SFA to see if they recognise the decision of the court…..

     

     

    Expect fireworks

  5. traditionalist88 on

    TheOriginalSadiesBhoy, RobertTressel :)

     

     

    On another note, once they go through the liquidiser anyone agree we should make a bid for that Bar72 they’re always banging on about seeing as how we won the league and cup double that year…

     

     

    Even in their moment of glory they were in our shadow!

     

     

    HH

  6. hoopeddreams on

    So, currants’ application is successful.

     

     

    This is Stewart Regan’s moment of truth.

  7. And the ponderous beast that is Fifa, raises it’s snout, sniffs the air and turns in the direction of Scotland.

     

     

    Transfer embargo not allowed, no bother. Suspension or Termination, take your pick ya stupid huns…

  8. FF inmates going crazy with ‘we won’ proclamations.

     

     

    SSH (Stupid, Stupid Huns)

  9. SSN Embargo reduced and sent back to appeal.

     

    No provision for handing down a transfer embargo!

  10. DontPatmadug on

    Cara Sulieman ‏@carasulieman

     

     

    #rangers have won – the decision has been referred back to appeal tribunal.

  11. DontPatmadug on

    Cara Sulieman ‏@carasulieman

     

     

    The sanctions available are set out in SFA rules as: fine, suspension, expulsion from Scottish Cup & termination of membership.

  12. DontPatmadug on

    Cara Sulieman ‏@carasulieman

     

     

    Judge pointed out there is no mention of any player registration ban.

  13. I love the rangers have won tweets.

     

     

    They have just signed their own footballing death warrant.

     

     

    Stupid huns…

  14. Ok, now it seems like they won! Confused or what?

     

     

    It appears that the judge has said that a transfer ban was not available to the panel. The case will go back to the Appeal Tribunal for consideration of the sentence.

     

     

    So what does the SFA do now? Does it take any notice?

  15. BBC

     

     

    BREAKING NEWS

     

    Judge Lord Glennie rules that a transfer embargo imposed on Rangers by the Scottish Football Association was unlawful, following a hearing at the Court of Session in Edinburgh

  16. Mass celebrations on FF. Apparently we’re all distraught, Regan should resign, the SFA don’t have the bottle to expel them and sponsors won’t allow them to be banned from Cup. All that and loads of pictures of Captain Caveman in his new strip!!!

  17. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    So the sfa said they would make a statement after the court case, wonder hw long i will take.

     

     

    If the sfa swollow this and the judicial panel do a review, will the be in breach of fifa rules

  18. DontPatmadug on

    So a QC and a law Lord failed to notice that a transfer embargo was not part of the rules mmmm.

  19. good one from the judges, let’s hope SFA say ‘GTF, you are expelled under existing rules ‘, but I doubt it, they will pass the buck somehow, if only to remove the transfer embargo but increase the fine which will never be paid

  20. TheOriginalSadiesBhoy on

    mighty tim on 29 May, 2012 at 16:03 said:

     

     

    Totally agree that Murray Park being on the flood plain for Milngavie and Bearsden makes it unsuitable and unattractive to West of Scotland. I heard that in the early days of MP, RFC had trouble with their pitches being frozen over in cold weather. I don’t know if you remember that when Fairways housing estate across the road was built the owners of the houses down near Auichenhowie Road had to be moved out for 9 months or so while remedial work was done on the foundations. It’s a dodgy area altogether and a drive along the road during our rainy season will explain why when you look at the farm fields.

  21. The Moon Bhoys on

    Secret handshakes aplenty are out there, only a matter of time before they came to the rescue, SFA will go for the lesser punishment available to them, courtesy of their old pal Ogilvie.

  22. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    Just checked out PhilMac’s figures on the fees earned by the administrators.

     

     

    For comparison, Ronaldo & Messi earn less per week than Duff & Phelps.

     

     

    Who taught these guys how to carve up the pie? Don King?

     

     

    Hail Hail

  23. Well we know the only option left for the SFA is ……………..

     

     

    BYE BYE R*NGERS

  24. !!Bada Bing!! on

    Paul McBride (RIP) was spot on when he said they don’t know their own rules.Incompetent doesn’t cover it.If only they had the “best administrator in the game…”copyright MSM,on board……..oh wait…

  25. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    MIKI67

     

     

    Not at all,Ive hammered him more than that,frequently.

     

     

    The point is that with Philvis,he holds his opinions close to his heart-fair play to him for that-and so do you.

     

     

    If I post in favour of one,it disnae mean that I have a problem with the other.

     

     

    HH,and KTF.

  26. Just in so only scanned back.

     

    I hear the SFA judgement has been upheld, but does this make any difference to whether the SFA have to deal with the fact Ragers took the SFA to court in the first place? The outcome of the case being irrelevant, the mere fact the case went to court in the first place is contrary to FIFA rules is it not?

  27. cavansam \o/ on

    Realistically the SFA have no choice now but to terminate their membership and not because of the court ruling but because they went to court in the first place.

     

     

    Any recognition of the court ruling by the SFA and they can expect every decision they make from now on to end up in the high court.

     

     

    Want that suspended player back for a cup match (go to court)

     

    Want that league game called off as you’ve too many games to play (go to court)

     

    Want the season extended as your players are tired (go to court)

     

     

    Hello FIFA?

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    2m Cara Sulieman Cara Sulieman ‏@carasulieman

     

     

    3. The appeal tribunal itself can refer back to disciplinary tribunal if they think it’s necessary.

     

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    3m Cara Sulieman Cara Sulieman ‏@carasulieman

     

     

    2. The court only asked to look at “additional sanction” – no argument over fine or fact they brought game into disrepute.

     

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    4m Cara Sulieman Cara Sulieman ‏@carasulieman

     

     

    1. It’s a “matter of some urgency” & will be quicker to send to appeal tribunal than start again at disciplinary tribunal.

     

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    5m Cara Sulieman Cara Sulieman ‏@carasulieman

     

     

    To reiterate – decision will be sent back to the appeal tribunal, not the original disciplinary tribunal. Judge had 3 reasons for this.