Inconceivable wifi debate, Supporter statements

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I’ve a bit of experience at deploying wifi to stadiums at sports stadiums.  The business model is straightforward:

You offer free wifi access to spectators who otherwise would have trouble getting 3G or 4G access due to the short-term convergence of thousands of other spectators.

In return you capture spectators registration details, which you can subsequently use for marketing purposes.  You can also force visitors to a landing page after the login, which can carry advertising.  Finally, you can control access to premium event-related sites, like gambling.  The venue can prohibit access to betting sites apart from their (paying) betting partner.

This technology has been around for a while but the tools and processes to commercialise it are still relatively new.

Venues across the country are already doing all of the above, but we’re only at the beginning of how sports venues engage with the phone in the hands of their in-stadium spectators.  The venues control premium content – like replays of goals or key incidents, which they can use to entice stadium visitors to register, login and view adverts.  You can view a goal reply on stadium screens, but this technology would allow you to view incident whenever you want, from whatever camera angle you want – great if you’re stuck at one end of the ground and want to see an incident in the opposite penalty area.

Eventually you will be able to order snacks or buy shirts through the same app you use to view replays.  The possibilities are endless: view Benchcam to see who is doing what in the technical area, click on your adjacent Kioskcam to see if there’s a queue before leaving your seat.

Sizing an install is a straightforward process.  You start with the capacity of the venue, then estimate what percentage you’ll get to register, then estimate how many will want to access the internet simultaneously, then estimate their average bandwidth requirement.

From that you get an estimate of what throughput your access points need (and where they are needed), what routers you need, and the leased line bandwidth.  This exercise has been done in practically every town in the country.

It’s inconceivable # 1

It’s inconceivable that the supplier and customer have not gone through this sizing procedure.  There will be email trails confirming the process.

It’s inconceivable # 2

It’s inconceivable that a customer expects 100% of their maximum population to register, login and access the internet simultaneously.  Especially so if the customer already had a stadium wifi installation and was aware of visitor login profiles.  If they did, their supplier would size accordingly, but this would have been well covered during the preliminary conversations.

It’s inconceivable # 3

The deal Newco Rangers are trying to get out of was signed under then chief executive, Charles Green.  Star witness for the plaintiff would surely be the directors from the other side who instructed the deal:

Counsel: “Mr Green, as chief executive of Rangers International did you instruct our clients to install a wifi at Ibrox allowing around 10,000 users to simultaneously access the internet?”

Case closed.

The Association, the Affiliation and the Irish Association, by some distance the three largest supporters organisations, all issued statements condemning those who use pyrotechnics at Celtic games.

It’s difficult for any group of people counted in the tens or hundreds of thousands to self-police over decades.  One of the functions which makes this possible is that when self-criticism is needed, it happens.  There was no whatabouterry in these statements, no blaming the media, just the straightforward message about what this behaviour is doing to Celtic supporters.

I don’t know if these statements will make any difference (all points were previously known), but the wellbeing of the support depends no strong voices stepping forward at the right time, especially when they can be shouted down.

The 3rd Annual Celtic Supporter’s Féile takes place in Philadelphia from 29th-31st January, including a Tommy Burns Supper for the first time.  Events are based at The Plough & Stars, in the Old City section of Philadelphia, where Celtic supporters from all over the world will gather.

There’s live music and radio shows, a book launch and a Q&A with Supporters Liason Officer, John Paul Taylor.  $5 from each ticket also goes to the Foundation.

Book tickets for the Tommy Burns Supper here.  If you need accommodation, special rates are available at the Wyndham Philadelphia Historic District with passcode: Celtic Group.

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  1. All the get Fletcher gang….

     

    …probably the same ones who fell for the spin that, Crosas used to be a Barcelona player ?

     

    Dafties.com

  2. The consequences of spending money wisely? CL football ? Maybe. Entertaining football? Maybe?

     

    Liquidation? Only if you have a board of halfwits.

     

    The consequences of NOT spending money, or spending it unwisely?

     

    I don’t need to tell you. We are seeing it week in week out, though sadly not midweek in midweek out.

  3. The exiled Tim

     

    Oh you don’t know what the agenda is? Really? Go have a Wee look in there website, it may help you, last time I was in, they hadent had an AGM in three years, but I doubt the agenda has changed,

  4. Ah would rather win the treble than get a run in Europe.

     

    Get a run in Europe…into the CL group stages get the money…then where does it go ?

     

    It certainly dizny get put back onto the pitch again.

     

    Ah mean….we’ve won one European trophy in 128 years so….

     

    Get the treble….nothing sticks it right up all the Celtic haters more…imho.

  5. Don’t give us all the violin stuff about….awe, we goat cheated oot the treble last year.

     

    That’s just p#sh.

     

    Ronny cheated us oot the treble with his daftie team selection in the SCSF and, his daftie ues of the subs….Tonev ????….Commons stayed on the pitch even though he would have given Peter Brady a run for his money…and, daftie Gordon getting sent off…clown.

  6. First time I have ever looked at teh CT site, this is what it says about them.

     

    About The Celtic Trust

     

    The Celtic Trust was established in 1999 with the primary purpose of providing an umbrella organisation that, through the mobilisation of the combined shareholdings of ordinary supporters in Celtic Plc, would seek to give fans a greater say in the running of Celtic as a means to assist Celtic to prosper on the playing field and financially, while also staying true to its historic roots as a social institution taking proper account of the community which it serves.

     

    The Celtic Trust is a supporters’ trust, an organisation established to represent the interests of small shareholders and supporters at Celtic. It’s Constitution as an Industrial & Provident Society (a co-operative) gives each member one vote on matters of policy, and with regard to electing the officers of the Trust.

     

    Every year the Trust has to submit annual accounts to the Financial Services Authority (FSA). As an incorporated body it can own shares in its own right, and we do own shares in Celtic.

     

    In addition, to its long term aims, the Trust, is in regular contact with the Club to represent our members and to raise issues of concern to supporters as well as putting forward ideas to improve the relationship between the Club and the supporters.

     

    We work closely with a number of other supporters’ organisations and we are always willing to enter into joint activity with other Celtic fans around issues of concern eg ticket allocations, stewarding, ticket pricing. If you would like to hear more about our activities please see our archive of articles on this site or contact us via the contact page.

  7. CultsBhoy can not relate to Celtic Board ambitions on or off the park on

    It’s the ‘fighten Irish’ coming out again…this blog is doomed. Too many posters can not have a civil debate without turning it in to an act of aggression..

  8. Stokesay has to make his mind up either to go hibs or Dundee Utd.I think we all know his time is up at Celtic. So if I was Ronny I would test Utd with a bid for Blair Spittal with stokes in any deal.I have watched Spittal.a few times. and liked what I have seen.if not him go for O Halloween at St Johnstone.

  9. Tony please pretty please.

     

     

    In your own words tell us what you interpret from the celtic trust reason for existing statement above ?

  10. 67Heaven .. CHALLENGING THE LIE ..I am wee Oscar…… Ipox belongs to the creditors on 14th January 2016 9:32 am

     

     

    Aye that was me. When you remember that it’s written in black and white that they need income from player sales it makes the msm bigging up of Waghorn all the more nauseating.

  11. TD

     

    I have not lived in scotland for well over 20 years, call me a daftie all you want, I can look in the mirror and for sure I don’t see a daftie.

     

    You are the one who is making the accusations and you can’t back them up, typical, when confronted you slink away like the toad you are.

     

    It’s people like you who do more harm to the club than anyone else, head in the sand hunnish attitude.

  12. BIG NAN on 13TH JANUARY 2016 10:10 PM

     

     

    ‘Enjoy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2CErE_uxnw

     

     

     

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    Thank you for that link.

     

     

    I would urge anyone who hasn’t watched the proceedings to have a look.

     

     

    I think it was Enoch Powell who said that all political careers end in failure, and it’s certainly the case for Mackaskill, an absolute arsehole of an individual.

     

     

    Sadly I think we all know how this will turn out, if it comes to a vote the nats will all vote as one and the legislation will be retained.

     

     

    How anyone on here can urge support for the SNP, given the evidence, just bemuses me.

     

     

    It’s cult like behaviour.

  13. SAINT STIVS & THE EXILED TIM

     

     

    as I’v said many times, I find it pointless getting into any sort of dialogue with malcontents, they won’t agree with me, nor I will with them, I post what I think in my opinion is right, and do not need to explain to some why or what my thoughts are, others yes, you two no, my choice, same as you have yours.

  14. ernie lynch on 14th January 2016 10:27 am

     

     

    Following your argument I doubt anybody would vote for any party. Or are you suggesting that there is a party out there where you agree 100% with their policies?

     

     

    I won’t ask you to name them, because as soon as you do somebody will point out a policy or law they brought in that is/was flawed and/or unworkable.

  15. Quickly, as I’m on my break.

     

     

    Do the Celtic Trust have an agenda?

     

     

    Of course we do, it would be rather pointless to have such an organisation without an agenda.

     

     

    Is it hidden?

     

     

    Indeed not, our raison detre has been posted on here this very morning.

     

     

    Ps oh and yes there has been an AGM every year since its creation. In fact we set the date for this year’s AGM on Tuesday night.

  16. I did say they had an agenda.

     

    Well it’s not hidden any more now.

     

    Couple of months ago I was in it said 2013 was the last AGM, so you’ve upt your game eh?

     

    This all since you joined?

     

    Your the man eh.?

  17. WEEMINGER on 14TH JANUARY 2016 10:37 AM

     

     

    Other political parties allow dissent.

     

     

    The SNP doesn’t.

     

     

    No elected member or party official is allowed to criticise the party line on any policy

     

     

    Not one of them has dared breathe a word of criticism on this or any other party policy.

     

     

    They are more like a cult than a political party.

     

     

    And having following this legislation from the start two things are clear

     

     

    1. it was designed to target the fans of one club, others might be caught by it, but only as collateral damage.

     

     

    2. The nats still regard us as alien, as not being the right kind of Scots, as not having the right kind of Scottish mindset.

  18. Ehhhhh not that I ever doubted the poster but? Cough! Cough!

     

     

    Our Trustees

     

    Published on Wednesday 20th March, 2013 by Celtic Trust

     

     

    Officers elected following the 2012 AGM

     

    Chairperson: Joe Di Paola

     

    Vice-chairperson: Tommy Brannigan, Vincent Doherty

     

    Secretary: Marie McCusker

     

    Assistant Secretary: Greg Kelly, Eddie Greenhill

     

    Treasurer: Kenny Butler

     

    Trustees: Jeanette Findlay, Jim Cosgrove, Donald Graham, Ian McCormick, John McEwan

     

    The officers were all elected at the 2012 AGM. Would all members please take time during the course of this year to consider taking up positions on the committee.

     

     

     

    Tags: The Celtic Trust

  19. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    HAMILTONTIM on 14TH JANUARY 2016 7:27 AM

     

    Macjay

     

    JF was at Parliament as a member of FAC.

     

     

    Only you know why you felt the need to mention the Trust.

     

     

    The rest of us can only guess.

     

     

    Enjoy the pictures.

     

     

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    Mate.

     

     

    The original piece referred to Jinty………..Jeanette.

     

    Got it?

  20. TonyDonnelly67

     

     

    no Tony,playing the daftie is alleging there are share shennanigans goin on at our club,been given our clubs company secretary tel number and not reporting it to him.

     

    Any chance to slur the CT Tony and that includes wrongfully implying the above.

     

    There is no enemy within Tony,take a look at the votes for and against each resolution in % terms.

     

    There is a vote coming tho for our 44% shareholder in regards authenticating the cheat that will map out our clubs future and our role in football in this country.

     

    i pray he makes the right one.

     

    HH

  21. TONYDONNELLY67 on 14TH JANUARY 2016 10:45 AM

     

    ‘I did say they had an agenda.’

     

     

     

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    Of course they have an agenda. There wouldn’t be any point in their existence if they didn’t have an agenda. All campaigning organisations have an agenda. I daresay The Great Desmondo has an agenda (though God alone knows what it might be), at least the Trust are explicit about their’s. I just wish the absentee landlord would be as open.

  22. The yellow card lasted a week or so, back to trolling and disruption, refuses to answer his accusations, no playing, typical troll.

     

    And a liar to boot.

     

    Gets told the facts and accuses the poster of lying, again typical trolling, but he has managed to snare a few who think he is some sort of uber Celtic supporter, I blame the skools so a do.

  23. I just read that Police Scotland are trawling social media to try to identify the Celtic fans responsible for the flares at the Stranraer match last Sunday

     

     

    My question is why are they not trawling social media from the Rangers Hibs match the previous weekend to identify the minority that were singing sectarian garbage

     

     

    Maybe because they would probably be able to identify about 40000 of the hun hordes going through their repulsive repertoire

  24. 67Heaven .. CHALLENGING THE LIE ..I am wee Oscar...... Ipox belongs to the creditors on

    Kev Jungle

     

     

    Yeh, of course, let’s just keep quiet and ignore the corruption etc …..silly timmies …… Sshhhhhh

  25. TIMBHOY3 and ERNIE LYNCH

     

     

    MORE CT groupies, and that’s your choice, had a couple of peeps on other things on the site, I was kinda looking for some positive things about my club! Naaaaaa Hell and freezes came to mind.

  26. 67HEAVEN .. CHALLENGING THE LIE ..I AM WEE OSCAR…… IPOX BELONGS TO THE CREDITORS on 14TH JANUARY 2016 10:59 AM

     

    Kev Jungle

     

    Yeh, of course, let’s just keep quiet and ignore the corruption etc …..silly timmies …… Sshhhhhh

     

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    Aye…ok.

     

    Just as long as you promise to ‘never’ talk about awe they snowmen that run Celtic PLC / FC.

     

    ….deal ?

  27. The exiled Tim

     

    I didn’t know that you where the go to guy in here on everything CT, …refuse to answer accusations ? Where am I in the nick?

     

    And I’m a liar too, oh well, so what’s the point of me answering anything then?

     

    Away an bite my arse calling me a liar, a don’t even know you ya lump of wid, it’s a blog ffs, an it’s no yours, and thank God for that.

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