Referee Steven McLean saw the incident when Josh Meekings stopped a Leigh Griffiths header crossing the line with his hand. He was 12 yards away with an unobstructed view. The blame for getting the decision wrong is entirely his.
We can only speculate as to why he didn’t award a penalty. At best, McLean didn’t believe the evidence of his own eyes and passed the buck to his assistant Alan Muir, who was around 6 yards from the action but with a less-clear view.
Muir did not see Meekings clear the ball legally. If he was distracted, and failed to see what happened clearly enough, he should have informed the referee. If Muir told the referee anything else, this is also a failing.
The SFA have a case to answer. Not fit and proper, to use their parlance.
Notwithstanding the fact that if the rules of the game were followed Celtic would be in the cup final right now, they are out because they failed to deal appropriately with the known qualities of Inverness.
Three goals were lost, all of which were defensive mistakes. A break downfield which caught the defence cold, a cross from the right which was not properly contested with all defenders in position, and a failure to match a back post run (similar to a recent League Cup final goal conceded to Kilmarnock). Fatigue may have contributed to the final goal but being down to 10 men was not a contributing factor for the first two.
The game should have been won in the first half but we opened the second period off-pace.
Another matter which should be on the agenda at Lennonxtown today is why didn’t we have the right studs on?
It should be someone’s job to make a decision after the team arrives at a ground on which studs to wear. If the decision was made, the decision was wrong. If this process was not followed, it should have been. Either way there is also a case to answer internally.
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BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
09:40 on
21 April, 2015
TIMJIM
Much as I strongly sympathise with your stance,I don’t agree with abandoning your season ticket.
If you do-and many others feel the same way-hunnery wins.
They have won anyway
bgx
09:36 on 21 April, 2015
Boycott the cup competitions,,,,dont go to away games,dont renew your season ticket,,,,and why not?….Coz we didnae get a Penalty….coz thats all anyone can say for a fact…..We didnae get a penalty that we should have,,,the reasons we didnt get it i would guess is that the ref will say he didnt see it clearly to be 100%,,,,And nobody can prove otherwise…..so thats it ,,,,Maradonna against England,Henry against Ireland…..Theres a League to be Won…..Sundays Gone…..
Like you we all have opinions.
BMCW……G*uess that means YOU dont have any PROOF either ,do you….na you dont,,,,when you do get back to me,,,I will lookforward to it….
The Green Man
09:45 on
21 April, 2015
If anybody can organise anything….I will be right there
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No! that’s the point of a boycott – you’re no meant to be there ;)
But yes you are correct, in true He-Man style “I [we] have the power!!!”
HH
BGX – stop making excuses for Scotland
How did we know that Jim Farry deliberately delayed a Celtic transfer to hinder our title challenge?
How did we know that Dougie was lying to us when he changed his mind about the penalty and it was actually craven who told him to change his mind?
How did we know that the huns refused to sign catholics until 1989 and it wasnt that there just wasnt one good enough?
How do we know the SFA was colluding behind the scenes to ensure that Rangers could liquidate and there be minimum consequences?
How do we know the SFA wanted to ban Celtic for flying the offensive tricolour but demanding it wasnt racist (honest)?
How do we know that the SNP passed the OB to criminalise Celtic fans because they couldnt get us under current legislation?
How do we know that anti catholic e-mails were being passed around the SFA linking the pope with pedophelia?
Every single time the veil has been lifted we have seen the truth. They dont want to talk about it or put a spotlight on it because when it is the ugly ugly truth emerges and they have to run for the shadows again.
BGX stop making excuses.
Every time the veil has
Chairbhoy
09:35 on
21 April, 2015
parkheadcumsalford @ 09:12,
I’m sure Natknow was being sarcastic with that comment. That is how I took it.
We know,he knows, everybody knows McLean cheated. There will be no comeback in Scotland, except that Celtic might get plenty more grief heaped on the team and our support will be dismissed as paranoid.
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Yeah I was pretty sure he knew and no doubt you’re correct.
It’s a sore one though. For the SFA this is a show piece event, neither they nor their officials feel the need to address an incident that turned the semi final of their flagship competition into a farce.
Hail Hail
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I have a strong suspicion Kenny Clark is a lawyer – but I’m finding it difficult to prove…
;-)))
BGX
The proof was right there on screen. If you canny understand that,it’s your problem,not mine.
You come on here shouting for proof then deny it when shown to you. Stick yer fingers in yer ears,poke yer eyes out wi a stick,do whatever you like.
But don’t insult our intelligence.
Tony Donnelly stop making excuses.
Its a sad truth but by allowing the SFA to act in this and allowing Celtic not to challenge it we are contributing to the cheating. No more.
That statement from the board was weak, written by a group of weak people.
Don’t rock the boat eh Peter.
Shocking that they seem unable to defend Celtic.
We need a new board of Celtic supporters, who will challenge this hunnery head on.
If we had a proper board who would fight for Celtic….the honest mistakery would be gone pronto.
We are going nowhere with PL and his lackeys.
Vote them out.
HH
davidopoulos
08:44 on 21 April, 2015Odds for a penalty to be awarded in tomorrow’s match at Dens is 12/5…I said yesterday that I thought that the cheats would pull out all the stops to fabricate the “things even themselves out” narrative. Unfortunately I couldn’t see the price for a penalty and a red card.Also, there were no odds on when the Daily Record would break a “story” about Muir and McLean receiving threats…
Broadfoot will be on the case,a la Collum,which was lies…
TIMJIM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VjEq-r2agqc
Natnow, Kenny Clark, like other referees proudly tell stories at after dinner speeches about how they cheated Celtic when the refereed in their games.
Yet on radio shows they like to tell us that referees are beyond reproach.
I think we can draw conclusions on that?
Bada Bing – yes we can expect some made up stories on threats. The country is entirely predictable.
When all is said and done…….God ensured that we became European Champions. He also ensured that the Hunz were liquidated.
I just remind myself of those facts when morale slumps.
HH
Boycotts
An all out boycott is the only way to be successful. A Celtic boycott will be painted in the media as us throwing the toys out of the pram.
An all out boycott of the countries top clubs in SPFL/SFA and Hampden matches.
League Cup
The boycott should be based on the SPFL chief Doncaster and his removal.
All matches should be boycotting by all signed up clubs until he his removed from position.
If Doncaster is removed then the boycott should only apply to League Cup matches at the national stadium.
The problem you have with such a boycott is as follows:
A: Drawing a rival or a derby match.
B: a team who have not won a cup or been to a final for decades going quite far in the competition.
Boycott of Scottish Cup matches
Boycott the Scottish cup matches to highlight the incompentence of referees and the incompetence and corruption of the SFA. The demands would be the restructuring of the referee department and a transparency in their performance on the pitch.
Removal of Campbell Ogilvie & Stewart Regan.
Same issues as above regarding teams fans boycotts.
My thinking is the following fans groups would be interested in such a boycott.
Aberdeen
Dundee United
Hearts
Hibs
and of course Celtic.
No offence to any other sides but I don’t see them having a huge impact. If they do what to join up then it would certainly help but televised matches are the big impact games. These are the games that get the big exposure.
Any boycott of matches by one single club will have no impact and we will be mocked.
If the clubs fans don;t stand together and work together for better then they only have themselves to blame.
The referee strike should be used as a warning. At no time in the history of Scottish football can I remember referee’s being applauded. During that weekends fixtures there were a number of referee’s applauded when leaving the pitch. That tells it’s own story what the majority of Scottish football fans think about the referee’s in this country. Most will never admit it but a few I know have said openely to me that Dougie Dougie was a landmark moment when a referee admitted he lied and cheated. Yes he cheated. The fans groups and clubs did not back us then and when a decision goes against them I always make the same statement ‘You have no complaints really because you didn;t back us when the referee lied to our manager and cheated’
Some non Celtic fans grudgingly agree. They feel Rangers/Sevco (whatever you want to call them) and Celtic get all the decisions. If that is the case they will be delighted to get transparency and explanations from referee’s on decisions and punishment for bias, cheating, incompetence and lying.
This is the angle that must be taken to get change. Taking on the SFA/SPFL etc on our own will result in little or no change and more of the same. We have been here before.
It seems we are on the verge of an all out walk away from a large amount of fans. I don;t want that to happen. A properly structured boycott and protest is the way to go on this. If Sevco do become a force in the distant future then the fans of the other clubs in Scotland will regret the day they didn;t take the chance for transparency in Scottish football.
As for Regan and Doncaster they are just poor at their jobs. I don;t want anyone to lose their jobs but they are not doing a 9-5 job for low wages they are making a decent wedge and are not delivering. They must be replaced.
Campbell Ogilvie should have been removed years ago. How he is still there ir beyond me.
Just my thoughts on the whole debacle.
LB
neganon2
09:51 on 21 April, 2015
Tony Donnelly stop making excuses.
Its a sad truth but by allowing the SFA to act in this and allowing Celtic not to challenge it we are contributing to the cheating. No more.
I’m thinking you have the wrong guy? Where did I make an excuse?
I have just had the misfortune to be made aware of an article in the Daily Mail ,written by an Adrian Durham,this is one of the most anti Celtic rants I have seen.Celtic grow some and ban all these rags from Celtic Park.Oh nearly forgot ,he’s so sorry for the Hun.
BMCW…..so you have no proof….thought not…..
In the same week that we are shafted, sevco are asking for rule changes.
Now…if this carry on is not stopped…..there will be very few fans willing to pay to be cheated.
Enough of this hunguffery.
HH
NegAnon2
09:55 on
21 April, 2015
Natnow, Kenny Clark, like other referees proudly tell stories at after dinner speeches about how they cheated Celtic when the refereed in their games.
Yet on radio shows they like to tell us that referees are beyond reproach.
I think we can draw conclusions on that?
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We can draw conclusions on anything.
What’s your point?
So when CFC get an answer from the SFA,what do they do? If they agree with it,does the case just get closed? If they don’t agree,then they will have to publish their response,will they have the cojones to do that?
I think Celtic’ s request for an explanation could seriously backfire given that this is the SFA. Watch the video, especially at about 15 to 17 seconds;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32388618
Kris Commons will be punished for what must have been a forearm smash on the ICT player, at least judging by the way he went down. “Don’t query us again or you’ll get more of the same.”
You heard it here first.
And so you see I have come to doubt
All that I once held as true
I stand alone without beliefs
The only truth I know is you.
And as I watch the drops of rain
Weave their weary paths and die
I know that I am like the rain
There but for the grace of you go I.
be a busker Celt
can,t be bad ?
braw
NEGANON 2…..IF you believe the ref cheated ,,,and i have never ONCE said he didnt,two simple words…..PROVE IT…..
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
09:55 on
21 April, 2015
TIMJIM
Sorry I don’t understand. I,am on an old laptop that the audio is broken. Cannot be bothered going upstairs to my main computer.
Livibhoy,
Excellent post. Can I ask you, do you ever read any of my posts, as I have been advocating for a long, long time that our fan groups should be lobbying their counterparts at other clubs.
It was only the threat of a ST boycott from the other clubs that prevented Sevco from being admitted to the SPL.
Get a unified approach and the threat of a boycott would send a strong message.
kevj
So our manager is a d#ck now that we lost a game of football.
Whether you think he is gonna be a good manager for us or a bad one theres no need to call him a d#ck.
Money / Money / Money
Italian fitba media are reporting that Inter will accept a 30 million euro bid from Barca for Kovacic. Inter blogs not slow to note that Barca are willing to pay big money for a player that Mancini doesn’ t trust..
Italian fitba media reporting that PSG have offered Palermo 45 million euros for the fabulous Dybala..Owner of Palermo is quoted thus – ” 45 million is an insult – I want at least 60 million for him ”
Warm and sunny – way down south.
Natnow what Clark was saying Also was that have the fourth official watching replays would slow the game down
Nothing about getting the decisions right which could make or break a season,manager etc
Tom English said it at halftime on Sunday it just takes a couple of mins and it’s done
Bhoys – BGX is making a strightforward epistemological point. It cannot be proven that the ref cheated. We all find it incredulous, but we will never be able to prove it. If we want to tackle this kind of thing then the system needs to change. Currently it relies on one man’s word about what he claims to have seen or not seen.
Sorry, should’ve written “Kris Commons will be punished for what must have been a forearm smash on the ICT player, on the balance of probabilities
Macanbheatha sorry for your loss
Word of the day,so far
Intrinsic
To the poster who is in Nuremberg
Careful it is the Sevco spiritual home
I have given myself a few days to calm down and take stock of Sundays debacle.
Debacle is an appropriate word, both for the officials and our performance.
Firstly the hand ball !
It beggars belief that 3 officials missed a handball that most people in ground saw from some distance away. The linesman,s view could have been obscured by Griffiths but the other two commanche,s have no excuse.
At the very least this is gross incompetence. Both officials are inept and not suited to this level of football. It was such a blatant and clear cut hand ball. The player clearly did not stop the ball with his head so what part of him made deliberate contact with the ball ??
The only alternative is that they deliberately ignored the infringement. That is very difficult to prove.
Celtic are quite correct in seeking clarification and an obvious public apology .
That wont be easy . I listened to Clark on Sportsound last night and he was sticking to the “honest mistake” mantra !!
This “honest mistake” galvanised ICT. John Hughes told them at half time that their name was on the Cup !! It gave them belief.
Apart from the above, our performance was slovenly. Too many players just did not put in a performance.. The defence, in particular was static and wide open!
Our manager also made the wrong tactical substitutions. Hooking Forest deprived us of the out ball from defence. I am a big fan of Commons but when he has a stinker he has a Carlsberg one !! He was the obvious candidate for substitution.
But we looked tired and leaden footed the whole game. Guidetti’s leveller was fortuitous and merely gave us false hope.
Celtic will need to improve the squad in the summer. That is an obvious.
One position no one has thus far mentioned is understudy to Craig Gordon.
Zaluska is not up to the required standard. He is a bomb scare and prone to rash impulses. How long has he been at the club ?? And yet will never be first choice. He seems content with that situation. We need a keeper who will challenge Gordon for his jersey. Who wants to be first team keeper. Gordon is the best keeper in the SPL but he needs competition for his place.
Its time for a revolution in Scottish Football…..Celtic fans could very quickly clean the stable.
Collective action by a massed Celtic support is the answer.
We spit out the dummy, withhold funds…..there will be no Scottish Football.
Solidarity is all that is needed, to remove these bigots.
They only exist in their capacity as cheats, because we let them.
Challenge them, and they will fold very quickly.
HH
NatKnow
10:08 on 21 April, 2015
Bhoys – BGX is making a strightforward epistemological point. It cannot be proven that the ref cheated. We all find it incredulous,
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Hold on.
You can go about using words like epistemological and then saying incredulous when you mean incredible.
BGX
I canny prove yer a knobend either. But I’m happy to accept the evidence of my own eyes.
Conversation over as far as I’m concerned. Yer like a cucumber,keeps repeating. And you know where you can stick it.