At around 13:16 tomorrow afternoon Fraser Forster will hopefully break the 40-year record of Aberdeen’s Bobby Clark for not conceding a goal in Scottish league football. Clark’s record is next up for the Celtic keeper but the British and European records are not too far away.
Apart from Celtic Park itself there would be no better place to break this record than at Tynecastle, but the most important part of the day is to secure a win. Concede early but win the game and we have done our job. Break the record and leave pointless and we will have nothing to celebrate.
Clarity has never been a prominent feature when it comes to the analysis of football finances. 2012 threw up a slew of ‘experts’, practically all of whom swallowed lines from PR people instead of explaining HMRC’s published rules on voting for or against Company Voluntary Arrangements.
Journalists were briefed on HMRC’s intentions, which filtered to the ‘experts’, soon this PR version of events was accepted an a reality. The same was going on inside football. One journalist called me back then to dispute my challenge to his assertion that Celtic would have vote to allow Newco Rangers into the SPL, and that the SPL itself was absolutely certain to vote them “back” (sic.). Celtic were never going to that way and by then the SPL tide had turned.
It was not in Celtic’s interests to have Newco parachuted into top flight football, which has become clear in the subsequent years, although many in Scotland, including a sizeable chunk of the Celtic support, thought otherwise, and that the club would vote in favour.
It was, therefore, refreshing to watch BBC Reporting Scotland last night without the 2012 flops. A new expert was found to ask the pertinent question, a £1.5m loan is fine for a short-term fix but what about the enormous long-term problems?
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G M
We shld take a leaf out of their book!!?? Ill get ma coat. <:0)
Syd Negakev
15:58 on 21 February, 2014
Great argument,why we ever outlawed slavery and gave women the vote I’ll never know,everything was fine as it was.
Celtic Mac @ 14.27 hrs.
Many thank for your well researched reply.
In 1955 The Conservative party ( or whatever it was then called ) polled 50.1 % of the total vote cast in Scotland and 36 out of 72 seats. Roughly the same as the party in England with 50.4%
Nowadays any party can only dream of achieving > 50% of the vote in a UK General Election.
Even Tony Blair’s landslide governments never achieved over 50% of the vote.
I therefore reiterate that Scotland was not always a socialist society. Has the socialist party’s in Scotland ever achieved that figure?
Statistics can always be manipulated to suit any agenda but when natural socialist areas like Partick even had Tory MP’s . I wonder why.? then again.
HH to you.
eddie
The hi heed yins at Fifa & Uefa
REEK!!!!
timmy7_noted
That’s just silly.
Syd Negakev
16:12 on
Can you tell me one country that regreted getting it’s Independance?
Why is it such a crazy risk for a nation that is as rich as ours to want to define it’s own policy’s and decide what to spend it’s own income on rather than sending most of it’s wealth to London for the benifit of London and the SW?
Has wee Eck come up wae plan C yet??
Scots miss out on the Gold but GB win Silver.
TT
You lurking?
eddieinkirkmichael
Have you looked around the towns and cities in Scotland?
If you leave out Aberdeen and the diminishing oil supply, what do we have?
Many branches of Greggs, Aulds, Poundland and other bucket shops. There’s not much else.
Syd Negakev
16:20 on 21 February, 2014
Yes,so lets just leave it as it is…………after all things are going so well.
Looking after no1 CSC.
timmy7_noted
I would imagine that people who don’t have much will probably vote yes because they’ll reckon there’s nothing to lose. However, I don’t think they’ll gain either.
eddieinkirkmichael-thanks for reply last night re Easdales,a mate was doing work for a guy in Rothesay a few months ago, who ran the local Sevco Animal Herder and he said 100% the Easdales are Tims.
Wille Frazer, side by side with…
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LiviBhoy – God bless wee Oscar
16:04 on
21 February, 2014
Istanbulcelt Oscar’s Green & White Army
Do you want our young players to be subjected to hatchet men from Sevco & Fartz?
LB
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don’t think Govan will have them next season. An expensive luxury they won’t be able to afford next season I hope. But if it means they both stay out of the top league then I have no problem with them playing in the championship.
H H
Hi guys – going through to Tynecastle tomorrow-looking for two tickets -if anyone is aware of any spares please let me know -happy to meet up at bus park or at pub near the ground
Important supporter info: Celtic (h)
21.02.2014
Heart of Midlothian Football Club is warning that robust action will be taken by Police Scotland against anyone partaking in unacceptable conduct during tomorrow’s match against Celtic at Tynecastle.
Unacceptable behaviour comes in such forms as foul and abusive language, threatening behaviour, comments about a person’s race, religion, creed, nationality or sexual orientation, damage within the stadium and general anti-social behaviour.
Home and away fans attending the game are also urged not to take flares or any other pyrotechnics into the ground.
Smoke set off in a football stadium is not safe and may adversely affect persons who suffer from breathing disorders. In recent events flares have also inadvertently caused seats to burn and may obviously have serious consequences if flags are ignited.
Police are rightly treating this issue very seriously and any persons caught with flares in the ground or attempting to bring them into the stadium will be arrested.
Both Heart of Midlothian Football Club and Celtic Football Club views the introduction of smoke to any ground as unsafe, this is a very serious health and safety matter and any persons identified as responsible may be subject to Club sanctions.
On HeartsTV today, Gary Locke and Jason Holt look ahead to the visit of Celtic.
O.G.Rafferty
…whom?
syd negakev
16:26 on 21 February, 2014,
Reports show there is at least one hundred years of oil left in know fields, with others being being drilled and showing high potential.. ie, off the Clyde.
I’m not decided as yet what I’ll vote for as cqn has muddled my head on it now:-)
Syd forgive me but you come across as the stereotypical “dour Scot” glass half empty. Do you have no faith in your fellow countrymen and women to make a go of it? Even if we opt to stay in the Union is that all we will be Greggs,Auld,Poundland and bucketshops? You must have some aspirations surely although with that moniker perhaps not.Hail Hail Hebcelt
ernie lynch
From earlier.
The SNP have six Westminster MPs. Four of which, (in their various constituency forms) could be said to have been secure for the Tories, Perth&Perthshire, Angus, Moray and Banff&Buchan. I wonder what happened to the other Tory heartlands.
They also represent Dundee East, a constituency known to have elected Labour MPs going back at least to 1945, and probably further. No Tories in sight. They also represent the Western Isles (Na h’Eileanan a lar) a constituency which first elected a Labour MP back in 1935, and remained Labour until 1970, was Liberal before that. It was again Labour as recently as the 2001 election. The SNP also briefly represented a Glasgow seat, losing it back to Labour in 2010. Main point being that the SNP, like it or not, have been capable of succeeding outwith the ol’ Tory heartlands in Scotland, just as well given that the Tories only have the one seat themselves.
I liked Tommy Johnson. 2nd part to follow for anyone interested.
There’s no question Tommy Johnson was adored by the claret and blue faithful in his two-year spell for Villa.
After all, this was the man who was dubbed “Super Tommy Johnson.”
But it’s fair to say the feeling is mutual as Johnson discusses the supporters who cheered him week after week in the late 1990s.
He said: “The fans at Villa were different class. They were superb, truly superb.
“I think they appreciated me because of what I gave to the club on the pitch.
“I was hard working. I used to shoot on sight too – that was a big thing with the lads in the dressing room. I often didn’t pass it – I just had a go. If I missed a chance or something went wrong, I wouldn’t mope – I’d just get on with it.
“I wasn’t the most skilful player to put on the claret and blue but I gave everything for that shirt.
“I always played football with a smile on my face too because I loved playing for the Villa.
“I think there’s a picture of me after the cup final win and I’m wearing a daft comedy wig – that sums me up because I enjoyed it so much! The song that came from my nickname was amazing.”
Johnson arrived at Villa in a £1.9m deal from Derby County in January 1995.
After easing himself in for three full games and a couple of substitute appearances, he gave a magnificent performance against Wimbledon with a hat-trick in the astonishing 7-1 victory at Villa Park.
It was a moment he remembers fondly in a season of consolidation for Brian Little’s men.
He continued: “I had previously gone from Notts County to Derby County, which in itself was a stepping stone. The Rams were in Division One.
“When I heard about Villa being in for me, I immediately thought about the size of the club and the history behind it.
“We played Leicester in the play-off final in 1993-94 and Brian Little was manager of Leicester.
“If Derby had won, I would probably have ended up staying with them as they would have been in the Premier League.
“But it was ironic that Leicester won, they went up, Brian went to Villa and then he signed me. It was a strange situation. I was delighted to go. It was the right move.
“I remember being struck by the atmosphere at Villa Park when I arrived.
“I knew about the Holte End already – one of the biggest stands in English football. But the atmosphere all over the ground was electric.
“It was a struggle at first. We were down in the bottom half of the table and it was just about staying out of trouble. But, in spite of those struggles, the mood was still great. The whole place was top-class – the ground, the training ground, the players, the staff – everything. It was geared for success.
“The hat-trick against Wimbledon in my first season was great. That set me off.
“I was aware Villa had paid a lot of money for me and I was just delighted to get that trio to get me going.
“It was only a few years later that I realised it was a header, right foot and left foot – the perfect hat-trick they call it, don’t they?
“Those are the moments you remember. It was my first hat-trick in the Premier League! I kept the matchball.
“After that season, the gaffer made some changes. He looked to change the team. He signed younger players. The gaffer wanted to freshen it up with young British players.
“In came the likes of Tayls [Ian Taylor], Drapes [Mark Draper], The Gate [Gareth Southgate], Franny [Franz Carr] and Wrighty [Alan Wright]. We all knew each other from the England U21s and the gaffer wanted us to carry that on at Villa.”
What Little created for that 1995-96 season was a squad of substance, style and spirit.
Johnson points to the perfect mix – younger starlets like Dwight Yorke and Savo Milosevic and experienced aces like Andy Townsend and Paul McGrath.
Villa won the League Cup with a fabulous 3-0 win over Leeds at Wembley, reached the FA Cup semi-final and finished fourth in the Barclays Premier League.
Johnson also insists that a lot of that success is down to the camaraderie in camp.
He added: “It was an amazing season.
“We got The Gate, Drapes, Savo – and Yorkie signed a new contract and established himself as a centre-forward then.
“We still had a few of the old timers like Nigel Spink, Paul McGrath and Steve Staunton.
“We had a good mix of up-and-coming players and established internationals who had seen it and done it.
“Pre-season was really good and we carried it into the season.
“We got the formation right – three at the back – with Charlesy and Wrighty bombing on. We had Tayls, Towny and Drapes and – when I started playing – I was in the hole behind Savo and Yorkie.
“It was a free role, pretty much, which was brilliant for me. I just went where I wanted and did my best to support Savo and Yorkie.
“It was a great season and we had a great feeling.
“Team spirit was unbelievable and we had brilliant players.
“Andy Townsend was different class. Paul McGrath was unbelievable. He didn’t train much but when he played he was incredible.
“Stan Staunton had a wonderful left foot but used to moan for fun. Nigel Spink looked after us.
“We had a great mix. The banter was good. We were winning games. We were successful.
“You can imagine what the dressing room was like.
“There were plenty of daft things done – and I was involved in most of them. It was such a fun dressing room. It was a real great place to be.
“It started when Drapes used to walk in every morning with his daft clothes on and continued after training.
“There was always something kicking off in the dressing room that had us in bits. But, trust me, when we went on that training ground, we meant business.”
Johnson missed out on the Wembley showpiece, sitting out the glorious game from the bench.
But what some still don’t know to this day is that he was just glad to be involved at all!
He continued: “I got injured against Ipswich in the FA Cup match in February.
“That gave me about six weeks until the final.
“I played in the first leg of the semi-final when we drew at Arsenal 2-2 but then I missed the home leg.
“My main aim was just to get fit because I was still struggling with my thigh at the time. It was constant work to make the final.
“I wanted to be involved. My first session back was the day before the final.
“The gaffer was brilliant. He put me on the bench. When I see him now, though, I hammer him for not putting me on.
“But just to be involved was brilliant.
“The togetherness was second to none in the group.
“We travelled down a couple of days before the final and when we won it, everyone stayed down in London for a get-together. Everyone was in the hotel, even the office staff. The wives and kids were there – it was fantastic.
“It was the first trophy I had won. Just to be part of it was great.
“I was so grateful to the gaffer. He didn’t have to put me on the bench. He could have picked someone else. There were only three subs then, too!”
His appreciation for Little still continues to this day as he recalls life under him in B6.
He admits Little was a “quiet man” but one who got his message across day after day during his tenure in the Villa Park hotseat.
Although Johnson admits he didn’t agree with the mild-mannered manager during initial talks about a move to the claret and blues.
He added: “The gaffer was great. He was very quiet but you knew where you stood with him.
“Doug Ellis saw something in him that he liked after his great spell at Leicester. He was terrific to work with.
“You realise now what hard work it is being a manager or a coach.
“He came up with the system of three at the back – he was probably one of the first to use that formation.
“He had his full-backs pushing on and me in the free role.
“When he told me he wanted to play me there I was having none of it. This was before I signed! He said he saw me playing in the hole behind the strikers. I was thinking ‘no I am a centre-forward, I want to score goals.’
“But when I see him now, I say ‘yeah you were right!’ That was my best position.
“I still speak to him now. He’s in good fettle and it’s great to see.
“We had a great backroom staff to work with too – Alan Evans, John Gregory, Paul Barron and Jim Walker. They were fantastic. There was Kevin MacDonald and Tony McAndrew too.
“I owe a lot to them. They helped ever such a lot.”
Look out for The Big Interview part two on Friday as Johnson discusses his difficulty in leaving, his thoughts on Villa now and sharing a dressing room with Paul Lambert.
eddieinkirkmichael,
“Can you tell me one country that regreted (sic) getting it’s (sic) Independance (sic)?”
Well the last country to break away from another to form its own nation isn’t doing too well – South Sudan.
Tommy Johnson is confident that former playing pal Paul Lambert will bring the good times back to Villa.
Johnson moved to Celtic in a £2.4m move from Villa in March 1997 and played alongside Lambert, who joined the Buoys for £2m in November 1997 from Champions League winners Borussia Dortmund.
In fact, Johnson and Lambert sat next to each other in the dressing room.
Johnson was in awe of Lambert as an all-action midfield star – and now thinks he has what it takes to lead the claret and blues to fresh success as a manager.
He said: “It’s a rebuilding job for Villa at the moment. It’s a transitional phase for the club.
“It’s been a difficult few years. They have had a few different managers.
“But you just feel they’re finding stability now with Lambo.
“I have seen Lambo a few times and watched Villa and I have been impressed by how they look to play.
“This season is definitely about consolidation and trying to get as high up the table as they can.
“It’s been the home form that has let them down. If they can sort that out between now and the end of the season, there’s no reason they can’t move up that table. They seem to be better away from home.
“He will be looking to get through this season and then have a look at it again – who he wants to keep, who he wants to go and who he wants to bring in.
“I feel Villa will be on the up and up with Lambo.
“They have struggled a bit over the past few seasons. But there’s big expectations at Villa, you must remember that.
“Lambo will get there in the end. I am sure of it.
“He was a great player. He was a top pro. I used to sit next to him in the dressing room!
“He came to Celtic after winning the European Cup with Borussia Dortmund. He came back to Scotland after receiving an unbelievable education over in Germany.
“He came to Celtic and he was different class. He was a top, top midfielder.
“He didn’t score that many goals but when he did, they were always spectacular.
“When Tommy Boyd wasn’t available, Lambo was captain. That speaks volumes for him as a person and as a pro.
“He liked a laugh and a joke – not as much as I did – but he took the business of football very seriously. He was very methodical.
“You could see that he was going to end up as a coach or manager because he always took in what the gaffer – Martin O’Neill – was saying and doing.
“If anyone was going to be a coach or manager out of the dressing room, it was Lambo.”
Together Johnson and Lambert won the Scottish League Championship in 1998 and 2001, the Scottish Cup in 2001 and the League Cup in 1998, 2000 and 2001.
But, despite these honours, Johnson admits it was a tough decision to move north of the border in the first place – because of his love of life at Villa.
He continued: “It was just fabulous times – finishing fourth and fifth and winning the League Cup and getting to the semi-finals of the FA Cup.
“When I did leave, it was only two or three clubs I would ever have considered going to.
“The gaffer, Brian Little, was great to work for. We had brilliant players who got on so well as a group.
“In the end it was a very, very difficult decision to leave.
“The gaffer phoned me up one day and said he wanted to see me. I only lived 20 minutes away from him so I went around to his house.
“We sat there for five or six hours after he told me that Celtic had come in for me.
“He told me it was up to me in terms of what I wanted to do.
“It was so hard. He didn’t want me to leave. He just felt he owed it to me to tell me that Celtic had come in for me.
“There was talk of a new contract for me at Villa. But in the end, I looked at him and said: “I’ve got to go gaffer.”
“It’s not every day Celtic come in for you. They were playing in Europe every season. I would have regretted it if I hadn’t gone up there to Scotland.
“But, trust me, it was a hard, hard decision to come to. I loved playing for Villa. I loved playing for the gaffer.”
Johnson now works as European scout for Cardiff City, which takes him abroad most weekends.
But he admits this Sunday will hold special interest for him as his first love, Newcastle United take on his other love Villa.
He added: “I was born in Newcastle and was a Newcastle fan as a kid. I have mixed feelings whenever the two clubs meet.
“I am obviously still a Newcastle fan but I loved playing for Villa. So I have mixed emotions.
“I remember I scored against Newcastle at Villa Park in November 1995 – a 1-1 draw, Les Ferdinand scored for them.
“Then I came back into the team for a 2-2 home draw in January 1997. That was a tough weekend.
“It was my birthday weekend, you see, so I had to get tickets for my whole family!”
setting free the bears supports Res. 12 & Oscar Knox
01:05 on
21 February, 2014
I am reluctant to get dragged into the debate on the Named Person role because it started beyond Spinal Tap’s level 11 and has cranked up from there.
I will post my perspective and I will not get dragged into this debate.
Firstly, this bill is not an SNP stand alone policy. It was agreed by all parties bar the Tories, who agree with most of it but want to pander a bit to the Christian Right (not usually an area you look to in defending personal freedoms). It grew out of Social Work thinking and requests from parent groups and young people’s advocates for a more co-ordinated state response to collating information.
The Concept of a Named Person, has alarmed people largely because of presentation issues and a failure to explain. Plus, some of those quickest to react have not been too disposed to listen to explanations.
The Named Person would be better described as a Point-of-Contact or Information Co-ordinator. They would usually represent the agency best suited to the child’s age and stage i.e. Health Visitor for early months, Nursery Nurse and School personnel for the majority in the 3 to 16 age range.
They do not replace or surpass parents and they have been granted no additional powers that have not always been available to the local authority personnel, who have always had the duty to assess and decide on whether adequate care is being given to a child in a family situation.
There have been Named Persons available to young people with Additional Support Needs in Scotland since the mid-90s and they have operated without fuss. In the field of Child Protection, there have been Safeguarders and Advocates (not the Legally trained ones) to represent the Young Person’s voice in decision making, for just as long.
This current application of a Universal Named Person for every Child, as envisaged by this Act, has been rolled out in Highland Region for over 3 years now and no-one noticed anything much different.
Government and the State already have duties outlined to monitor and assess children to see that they are thriving and that includes making observations on how they are coping with family life (to look for issues of abuse, neglect and emotional care mostly). The State’s right to intervene is heavily limited by a variety of personal rights act, including the UN Convention on Human Rights, the Children Act, and many other pieces of legislation. They are not going to increase Receptions into Care because a teacher disputes how you handle a child; most professionals have the opposite pressure i.e to reduce Receptions into Care because the State is a poor parent generally.
You should be re-assured that the state has neither the resources, the intention, or the capability to get any more involved in the nitty gritty of family life. 95% plus of families will be blissfully aware of any change as there will be no need for action and, therefore, no actions undertaken.
I understand that people are spooked by the language and the overtones. I do get that. I wish they had called it something different.
I am wholly in favour of civil liberties and I am not at all ill disposed to a bit of SNP or politician bashing.
This Bill does not alarm me at all. The debate around it spooks me more than the Act itself.
Civil Liberties organisations are not raising objections here; right wing groups are. That should tell you something.
I would relish another opportunity to bash the SNP as the ObaF Act did reveal an Authoritarian and Populist tendency in them.
This Act is not as authoritarian as it sounds. It is a pious aspiration more than an intrusive offence. In the 3 years of its application in Highland region it caused not one bit of fuss.
I have said my piece. I think we need to inform ourselves more before we choose whether it’s worth heading for the barricades.
There are many genuine threats to civil liberties in the world. This Act is not one of them.
setting free the bears great post at 01.05 this morning.
top post.
Your perspective given highlights the need for those who are in need of help to have it and for focus and support to be centred on them.I hope people heed your assurances given about human rights as these are incorporated into the Act,
An T
sipsini
16:08 on
21 February, 2014
istanbulcelt oscar’s green & white army
16:00 on 21 February, 2014,
I’m unsure if there is a limit on how many players can be loaned out in one season, if there’s not, a smashing idea.HH
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As far as I know there is no limit as to how many players we can loan out (if anyone knows differently please correct me). However teams can only loan in 3 players.
hebcelt
Maybe. However everyone has to make their own call on it. I’ve just given my own personal reasons for voting no and that’s all I’m going to say on the matter.
I’m sure Scotland will make the right choice whatever that turns out to be.
“Heart of Midlothian Football Club is warning that robust action will be taken by Police Scotland against anyone partaking in unacceptable conduct during tomorrow’s match against Celtic at Tynecastle.”
Does that include invading the pitch and attacking a manager? Or is that acceptable, according to an Edinburgh jury at least?
Syd Negakev
Well we also have a football industry which we receive buttons for from the main broadcaster despite the fact Scottish contributions would suggest a far larger slice of the pie is due.
HH
First of all, I’m not an PIRA supporter and have sympathy for both the nationalist and loyalists in NI. But from what I have read, I think that the protestant community practised their own particular form of discrimination against the Catholic community and were the root cause of ‘the troubles’.
I used to follow Irish politics, but haven’t for a decade or so. I was amazed to read in the Guardian Gerry Adam’s brother and father were pedophiles- and this was kept secret from the PIRA as they (some would say rightly) executed such people.
I mean, how compromised will Gerry Adams have been? I have sympathy for him, as it must have been impossible, but this is precisely the point.
With allegedly 1 in 2 senior PIRA high command officers british informants, 1 in 4 of the rank and file, it’s actually amazing they were still in any way, shape or form, operational.
I suspect MI5 have been containing and manipulating Irish nationalist and loyalist politics for the whole of the 21st century. And I would imagine MI5 were told by Clinton and the CIA to get a peace deal done, marginalise the extremists, as there was bigger fish to fry globally.
As I say, I’ve stopped following Irish politics – what is the general consensus in the nationalist community about Gerry Adams?
For me – too compromised previously – maybe not so much now that his family secret is out in public domain.
As for indy vote – i think a yes vote would lead to a Scottish labour majority til the end of time itself in Scotland.
We joke for the Teacheri teachers…
the difference between Michael Gauve and a Plastic Surgeon?
One tucks features !!
coat on
3-0 celts tomorrow
away out so have a good weekend HH
O.G. Rafferty
Henry Rollins ?
Gordon-J,
I don’t think South Sudan is a good example to quote. Sudan itself treated the (now warring) peoples of South Sudan as second class citizens, because they weren’t Arab. One state which regretted being pushed by Britain into joining a new country is Sarawak, part now of Malaysia. Singapore subsequently seceded from and Brunei point blank refused to join that artificial entity. Mind you, the latter 2 seem to be making a real fist of Independence.
Syd, you are at it!
Putting your point across without getting all arsey and offensive.
Never catch on ;)
Istanbul, I think it’s only one player to a club in the same div and 2 players to the same club in a different division.
Might be wrong though.
Geordie Munro
You are too kind. Each to his own.
twists n turns
16:34 on
21 February, 2014
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I met Tommy Johnson and Tosh mckinlay in the Kilmarnock stadium bar before a Celtic game, back in the day. I asked him how he was and was he enjoying life at Celtic.
His replay was ”This probably isn’t what you want to hear…or maybe it is. I can’t wait to get away from here. Things are not working out and I need to play more.” I told him that it’s a shame things are not working out for you, and wished him all the best.” We carried on talking about other things….
Parkheadcumsalford,
Certainly there are very different factors at play – I wasn’t suggesting that the two were similar.
But the circumstances of a new country being formed by a part of an existing nation leaving are at least similar – unlike the many examples usually quoted of countries that gained independence after being occupied or subjugated by another.
Geordie Munro
16:45 on
21 February, 2014
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cheers Geordie….maybe Neil could have a word with Pep and Jose, time to call in a couple of favours.
HH