Scottish football has gone through months of drama and uncertainty to rescue ‘Rangers’. Only weeks ago we were told a CVA was likely. Once this failed the question of today’s SPL vote crystallised.
The SPL met several times to discuss this matter, even doing so before Rangers CVA failed. Sentiment was firmly behind Newco, to the extent that some were worried they would be allowed into the league without any sanction (if one Ayrshire club had their way). All this changed when Charles Green and Duff and Phelps agreed to challenge the SFA at the Court of Session. At the SPL meeting following this decision the mood changed dramatically.
I then had several friends in the media rubbish my suggestion that Newco were far from certain of being voted into the SPL. To be fair to them, my information was not coming from Neil Doncaster, whereas theirs was. If Doncaster was so assured when speaking to the media, day after day, we can only imagine what he was saying to Green. His influence has not been helpful to the cause he championed.
Clubs, who were previously weighing up the argument, suddenly had a convincing point to consider. Rangers going to court was the biggest own goal in their 140 year history. Terry Butcher, eat your heart out.
After this Green was at the mercy of fortune, and the growing influence of the hawk(s) in the SPL who saw no need to create space for Newco. In many respects, John Brown is correct. Having gambled and failed, Green did whatever he could to accommodate but there was no way back. Underestimate John Brown at your peril, he has his club’s interests at heart and has the fortitude to raise a phoenix from the ruins of Ibrox. His unconventional style is easy to mock but it is just what needed (I truly believe this).
Where now for the Newco-Sevco-Rangers? I don’t see a solution. Sooner or later Mr Green will let his friends know they only way forward is for him to acquire an existing Scottish Football League club, rename it to something like Rangers United, and move it to Ibrox.
The toxic history would be set free and it would be game-on. Keep your eye on Cowdenbeath.
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Evening bhoys, seriously hot, but as ever hun free.
An eventfull day, no huns in the spl, who would have thunk it a few short months ago.
Cowdenbeath, aye, been saying keep your eye on Cowdenbeath for quite a few months now, will it finally happen, I believe so.
Murray fighting back…the news must’ve buoyed him…
Happy Hundependance Day!
Ach cowdenhun are in the first division as well!!!
PFA Scotland Solicitor Margaret Gribbon of Bridge Litigation has today written to all English Premier League and Championship Clubs responding to Charles Green’s letter to them dated 29th June 2012.
Ms Gribbon stated “I have been furnished with a copy of Mr Green’s letter sent to English Clubs in their top two divisions and consider that it amounts to an attempt to deliberately misrepresent my clients position. I have therefore today sent a detailed letter to the Clubs setting out the facts and repeating our very firm legal view that Mr Green’s allegations of breach of contract are entirely without legal merit. My clients are free agents and I am pleased to note that several Premier League Clubs have already made applications to the SFA for International Transfer Certificates indicating that they attach little weight to Mr Green’s assertion that Sevco is entitled to seek damages for breach of contract”
“Furthermore it should also be noted that the SFA has confirmed that in the event of there being a dispute over registration the matter will be referred to FIFA. We can confirm that the SFA has today rejected to issue the registration for one of our clients to an English Premier League Club. The Club in question disputes the rejection and will now write to FIFA seeking their intervention. We expect a speedy response from FIFA.”
Thomthethim, OK.
RogueLeader, it is the only workable and controllable solution.
Awe Naw, right.
Richie, Ten Men, I said Brown was just what is needed. For us, of course, not for them.
Now let ‘Bomber’ get on with it!
Auldheid, oh well.
PFayr, speculation but necessity is the mother of invention. This one has been obvious to me for months.
tomtheleedstim, ha!
From Garngad to Croy, that’s not our problem.
PF Ayr
I heard from a good source that they have applied to join the Welsh league.
With a new name
IFYOUOWNYERHOOSEANSUMDAYSAYSAYEHESRENTINITANDYOUSAYITSMAHOOSECOMEINILLSHOWYOUTHETITLEDEEDSWIMANAMEINIT FC
Hail Hail
Paul,
“Terry Butcher, eat your heart out.”
Made me smile.
Paul67
Fantastic article ……. Take a bow…..!!!!!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LanCLS_hIo4&feature=fvwrel
Serge – I’m getting out twice a week and try and practice once a week also; right now it’s too hot to go to the driving range:0) I know you won’t have any trouble getting access to the Scottish Open, friends in high places etc.
Tim Horton – aye, air conned up tae the oxters, i might need tae put ma jumper oan:)
slainte
tony
Paul – if you’re right about John ‘The Orator’ Brown – then we’re only a few years away from what we’ve witnessed in the past. This guy will not disavow their 9IAR he will peddle this backed up by Marseille ‘cheating’ Rangers out of a CL Final. It’s not his lack of finesse that worries me. It’s his ‘we’re still ra peepil’ stance. The misplaced superiority swagger will soon return, the bombast, the triumphalism, the division. And he’ll be praised for it. And those like him who will rally to their new flag telling all who’ll listen (And there are plenty of paid ears who will) that it’s really just an old flag, for the old team.
And see all this? All this cowardly destruction of integrity and fairness in Scottish Sport? It will have all been for nothing. And their crimes will never be listed or chronicled properly. And the apologies will come from the wrong mouths (If at all).
There was nothing won here today. Just a clearer map laid out for that bunch to get back on course for where they, and the hierarchy believe they should be.
And I see Ogilvie, Regan and Doncaster are STILL in situ. Strange that…
U
I await PL retort to Bomber Brown in time. Should be amusing. I mean after HRMC investigate Murray way back to when he first buhgt Rangers, Bomber could be involved in a tainted 9 in a row along with the “gaffer” Walter!!
Special mention to Fergus McCann, Brian Quinn (especially), Dermott Desmond and Peter Lawwell. You done the club proud. stopped the 10, and put us back to the top of scottish football when the title stripping occurs.
OOPS sorry Paul67
Please delete last post
I´m too excited !!!
HAil Hail
R@ngers/Cowdenbeath…………the Blue Monkey Nuts
or, following the Bummer Broon model………the deRangers.
There’s been a lot of talk about the Zombies gaining promotion straight away, with Alistair at the helm of the rudderless ship they could be consigned to the lower leagues for quite some time.
The whole sideshow of their demise has given him a freepass from one of the worst managerial performances that I can remember in forty years of watching fitbaw..
Ally must stay..
Tony bhoy
What about ye?
Any tips on a nice Spanish red , in Canaries at present and going to a marvellous steak shop tonight .
Not up on Spanish wines as much as others
extract from Charles Green comment…
“”This time last week, all of us at Rangers were resigned to the fact that we would not be admitted, due mainly to the public declarations of clubs indicating they would not support our application.
“At the weekend, we were approached by representatives from the SPL suggesting our application still stood a chance of success and we should discuss this further with clubs. This we did in good faith but with the knowledge of the hurdles that lay ahead of us.
“We had asked the SPL whether it would be more appropriate for us to withdraw our application but were advised against this.”
Surely based on this alone Doncaster should resign…
Cowdenbeath FC is an anagram of Two faced bench
I wonder who the fit and proper person will be ?
Hail Hail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeYgLLahHv8&feature=player_embedded
Aaamm a wankee inbred Sandeee
A real life nephew of my sister Bill
DEID on the 4th of July
Advance transcript of John Brown`s performance on Radio Clyde tonight:-
DELAHUNT:- Well Bomber we know you are a busy, busy man, with all this takeover business so thanks for coming on the show tonight.
JOHN BROWN (slurring) :- Nae borra Jim,I`ve had lots ay texsies in the last week so ah need tae get ma message across to ma dignified brothers. I normally get Jim Traynor tae deal wi muh meedeea afferrs but the night`s two fur wan night at the Jade Gerdenn in Airdrie so am huvin tae dae the bizness masel. Noooo if ah can huv a wee bit ay hush I`ll tell you the latest (opens blue plastic bag, produces and opens a can of super strength lager, and drinks enthusiastically)
HUGH KEEVINS:- Nice blue plastic bag there Bomber, I knew it wouldn`t be green!
JOHN BROWN:- Damn right its no. Everything`s a green conspiracy, trying tae dae doon ra Berrs. We`ll get thum aw back. Anyhoo, ah phones that Charles Green earlier the day and he says tae me “Listen, Bomber, given the SPL vote, we might now be interested in selling up. How much are your consortium offering, whats the quantum?” Kwan-Tum? I asks him. Kwan-Tum?? You mean tae tell me that ye huvnae heard ay the Kwan-Tum, ya Sheffield safty? Ah point blank refuse tae dae bizness wi a dafty that hus never heard ay the Kwan-Tum, Burnbank`s finest Chinese takeaway! Ah tell ye ah wis mair beeling than ah wis that time that Dale Gordon wideo wore wan ay thae crucyfixy thingmies tae training, he goat a sore pus fur ehs troubles ah kin tell yae!
DELAHUNT:- Does this mean your consortium no longer wish to buy out Charles Green?
JOHN BROWN:- Ehz no steeped in thuh Rangurss tradishuns – eh douznae werr brown brogues, or blue shurts wi white collars like Minty did, eh doesnae row boats at night and he`s probably married tae a pape. Donald Findlay`s still trying tae dig the durt oan that side ay it. But he`s no getting a single penny oot ay me or ma consortium fae the Quarry Bar.
HUGH KEEVINS:- What now for Rangers then Bomber?
JOHN BROWN:- Ah huvtae go, getting the beer scooter tae Cowdenbeath, tae discuss Plan Z and entertain some goats.
DELAHUNT:- Time for an advertising break.
“I`m Peter Dean, your debt expert………..”
I agree the appeal to the CoS was a massive mistake by What Was Rangers (initially I seriously thought CoS was the Church of Scotland!), but I am ever hopeful that the changes that are now happening regarding fan-power, chairmen’s integrity (Kilmarnock excepted of course) and the like will continue to gain momentum. I hope the SFL clubs follow their SPL colleagues (Kilmarnock excepted of course) in changing our game for the better.
Whatever happens now, there is no “Old Firm”, there is no Rangers 1874 and there is a little rising sun glow of integrity beginning to shine back on a game that has suffered incredibly under the malevolent influence of Murray, of people like Campbell Ogilvy, of Surrender, No, Johnstone. The governing bodies will now need to take a long hard look at themselves and make some decisions on their own futures and that of football in Scotland – or their members will…
Colour me happy. I’m aff to the pub.
Paul67 : Another in a sequence of great articles. A pleasure to read over the past weeks.
Can’t wait to see I’m John Mackay and his big Hun coupon
There are many things that have annoyed me about the campaign to leave the rotting, debt-ridden corpse of der Hun and re-constitute a shiny debt free Newco-Rangers playing in the SPL.
The byzantine manoeuvrings of the old-boy networks in achieving this have been pathetic, while at the same time sickening in that they confirmed my view of much of what is worst in this country of ours.
But today is a good day in that the best of our fellow men and women has passed judgement and found The Rangers and their heirs and successors guilty and cast them out. That is no mean achievement for all concerned given the pressure they were all under from a Masonic Scottish Media that Joe Goebbels would have envied.
Well done to you Paul for your part in the downfall, but perhaps you have started to celebrate too soon and should put down whatever it is you are drinking and go and lie down for a bit.
“Underestimate John Brown at your peril, he has his club’s interests at heart and has the fortitude to raise a phoenix from the ruins of Ibrox.” Is not the best statement you have come up with to date.
I will go to sleep tonight praying that Brown, Findlay, Goram have a long and ultimately successful fight with the Green Man and emerge triumphant. Then the lunatics will be running the asylum.
sixtwo on 4 July, 2012 at 17:25 said:
Paul,
“Terry Butcher, eat your heart out.”
Made me smile.
“Nice one Terry…” I was there for couple.
So.
Not one single existing club supported Neil Doncaster’s proposal.
The overwhelming rejection of his “solution” was marred only by Kilmarnock’s corrupt and cowardly abstention along with one vote from beyond the grave in favour of Sevco SPL.
How can he possibly play any further part now? His credibility has been publicly shredded.
And, yes – Cowdenbeath has always been the safety net, in my opinion. But will we now see a schism in the ranks of the Huns? I won’t be surprised if battle is now joined now between Continuity Brown Huns and the Provisional Decent Huns.
P67…aaaaaaaaah!
:-)
Having witnessed first hand the level of hatred towards Charles Green form the Orcs. I honestly cannot see them backing (in any meaningfull numbers) the acquisition of another club by Green.
They are hell bent on Bomber Broon and ‘aw ra peepul’ being their saviour(s).
I can honestly see a rival Orcs team (a la Man Utd) started by the Bomber and the peepul with a resulting a schism in Saron.
I acnnot wait to see the movie…….
Hx2
I am being told after todays decision, Bocanegra will be the next to walk away
PF
Celtic 1st swears by Ribera Del Duero.
Your hun pals looking v gloomy today!
Henry, If I was a faster typist, you would have taken the words out of my mouth…..
Torontony
It helps haha. Just on my way out with the lads for a pint fest & to watch the game so will be in touch soon. Have a good day. HH
Serge
Paul67,
Another amazing performance, you’re a class act.
Thanks for everything…..
roll on the twelfth of july, the that rangers die. so get yr drum kits ready bhoys & ghirls, its marchjn season & don’t forget yr orange banners; green whyte & orange that is!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooperfan
If reports are to be believed they are in a good financial position. They will need to downsize if we are in Division 3 due to finances. I can’t see them going into administration.
According to the darling of the Celtc press Celtc Quick News, they are £35 million in debt. And with a load of players that are never going to get the money they are on at Celtc – how do they get rid?
That’s be a real problem for us in the past, and I think it’ll haunt them.
Regardless, they are now in the awful position that they won’t be in the strongest league next year. We’re a bigger draw then them. Imagine the irony if the division three tv deal is bigger than the SPL!
Thought this was very funny on follow follow clutching at straws.
Blindmon….
I’m sure you and the rest of the contingent provided them with some comfort ?
….PFayr on 4 July, 2012 at 17:29 said:
If Tony doesn’t get back to you, Marqués de Riscal Rioja reserva’s good with a steak.
HH
Monaghan