By universal consent, Celtic appointed the best possible manager when Ange Postecoglou took over last summer. Views at the time varied significantly. Practically none of us had heard of him, some immediately took the view that he was some cheap fodder (reflecting their general world view), the best the rest of us could hope for is that he had talents we were unaware of. The Aussies know, though.
Getting a managerial appointment right is notoriously difficult. Today, Manchester United, the club formerly known as the richest in the world, appointed their fifth permanent manager since Alex Ferguson left nine years ago. Two of the most successful names in the game, Louis van Gaal and Jose Mourinho came and went without issue. Davie Moyes, who continues to impress at West Ham, was laughed out of town within a year.
For three years until November, they were in the hands of Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, who achieved merit in three years at Molde, but ready for such a task? Never.
Even when you have every agent on the planet touting their wares, when you can snap your fingers and get anyone’s ear, fitting the right person to the most important job is remarkably difficult.
After five years at Ajax, Erik ten Hag will take over at Old Trafford in June. He enjoyed two exceptional Champions League campaigns, won two titles and leads this season. He also lost home and away to Rosenborg in the Europa League qualifiers after Celtic eliminated Rosenborg from the Champions League.
I put his chances of success in Manchester at no more than 25%. If the fundamentals of a football club are right, it will recover from setbacks, it not, all it can do it apply lipstick to some bacon. For all our season of angst, Celtic’s fundamentals were just fine. The evidence can be found on the pitch and by consulting the league table.
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And when did Killie give up the hoops for stripes?
Found it! Killie started using stripes in 1962. That agrees with Celtic Mac…
Ross County – last 5 games : WWLDW – not a bad run of form.
Ramsey & Roofe injured and will miss the next few weeks according to VB.
Ramsey gamble doesn’t look to be paying off TMWTL
weebobbycollins
Got the date wrong, it was actually Sat October 6 1962. And according to the report in the Glasgow Herald Andy Kerr not only played but he scored in a 1-1 draw. Carroll (Bobby?) scored for us. Interesting to read in the Herald that same day (Oct 8 62) that Santos were due to play Celtic later that month on October 30, after we guaranteed to pay them £10,000. Does anybody know if that game ever actually got played?
Paul 67,
Your article notes that Man United were formally the richest club in the world.
I believe they are still the most prestigious club.
In 2022 Man City tops the list, although some say that Newcastle is richer
What I cannot understand is how Barcelona remain in the top 5 when they have debt of 1.5 billion USD. Not to mention a dilapidated stadium.
Surely 1.5 billion USD is unmanageable.
HH.
Regarding our owners and who runs our club.
Be careful what you wish for.
HH.
https://www.thecelticwiki.com/1962-10-06-celtic-1-1-kilmarnock-league-division-1/
Ramsey I suspected was out but Roofe is big news.
It leaves them very short up front.
Celtic Mac,
I don’t remember Santos but didn’t we play Real Madrid about then?
GREENPINATA
Barca are a minting machine. Their debt has been reorganised so is manageable. They will need to keep an eye on spend but La liga rules should stop them from going off the rails.
CELTIC MAC:
We never played Santos but in 1962 we faced Real Madrid at Celtic Park.Remember ( as a 12 year old) collecting newspaper cuttings from games and still have scrapbooks from the early 60s,the referee that night for the Real game went by the name of Leo Horn from Netherlands.
saint stivs
I think you will find that Wikipedia is a better source, Celtic FC 1962 – 1963. Has the same match report plus an article, on the same page, re Celtic and Santos. Thanks for posting the image of the Celtic wearing the shamrock strip.
parkheadcumsalford
bhoyjoebelfast has answered that question. We definitely played the great Real Madrid back then, but apparently not Santos. I guess it would have been part of our collective memory had we done so, Pele and all. I was surprised to read about it in the Herald when checking back on the Kilmarnock game from the shamrock strip photo in 1962.
Clyde leaving Broadwood at the end of the season.
Could they groundshare with the Old Firm and take a bit of the financial strain off them.
And if they were playing the long game they could end up having the lavvy to themselves !
They are sharing with Hamilton accies
Sorry reading back again , you were making a funny …😂
Re Santos:
Around the time we played Real Madrid,Sheffield Wednesday played host to Santos,just in case it would arise in a pub quiz!!!
Bognorbhoy.
No probs,never tire of taking a pot shot at the monkeys.
H H
Interesting story with Clyde moving.
A Rutherglen team who moved to Cumbernauld and now off to Hamilton while wanting their own place in Glasgow.
I assume that the existing fans of Clyde passed the bug on to some of the next generation but they have been away so long that a good chunk of their fanbase must now be Cumbernauld locals
Surely moving away will drop attendance? I know it is a short drive away but you lose the walkers/drinkers.
I hated the idea of Celtic moving to Cambuslang
Also, how would they fund their own stadium in Glasgow? Would have to be a loan against future revenue so i suspect they would rent it out to councils, clubs , rugby etc
I remember the Real game. We played well that night, so much so, that even though we lost 3-1 the fans marched down the London Road en masse singing their hearts out. Shock of the evening was seeing Francisco Gento smoking a fag on the team bus. I had always been told,”You’ll never be a footballer if you smoke.”
It was amazing to see my heroes that night. Puskas, Di Stefano and Gento. At the time, Puskas was the player every kid wanted to be. Pele’s star was still on the rise. I was privileged and chuffed to meet and chat to Di Stefano and Gento before the CL final in 2002 at the Hilton Hotel. I think Gento had finally given up the fags by then. True legends of the game
AN DÚN on 22ND APRIL 2022 11:01 AM
Thanks for the reply. Appreciated.
Will Celtic B Team still play at Broadwood when Clyde leave ,I find it incredible that Barrowfield isn’t available for the B Team and the Celtic Women to play and train with modern pitches and facilities available to them ,that tells you all you need to know how miserable this Celtic Board operate ,personally I would chase the whole lot of them
The Real game,
playing for THE BLUE AND WHITE CUP –
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1962-09-10: Celtic 1-3 Real Madrid, Friendly
Match Pictures | Matches: 1962 – 1963 | 1962-63 Pictures
Trivia
This game was the idea of Glasgow businessman and Celtic supporter Max Benjamin who wanted to raise money for the Jewish National Fund Charitable Trust and the rehabilitation of refugee woman and children from Europe and north Africa.
72,000 come out to watch the greats like Di Stefano, Puskas and Gento.
“That Celtic support, it amazed me. Never anywhere in the world have I seen such enthusiasm or heard such encouragement. I wish I could take them back to support my club in Spain.”
The legendary Ferenc Puskas in an interview, see below (Sep 1962)
Outsode central station, all those young faces, I wonder could anyone dream in 5 years we will be champions of europe
https://wikifoundryimages.s3.amazonaws.com/7de3b7f185e2006a28838169eda3696f
Mate saying CCV out for 2 weeks……anyone verify?.
some footage.
look at old celtic park, wonderful.
https://youtu.be/eqxF2J0Ifqk
Clyde played for years at Shawfield (which also a greyhound track) Does anyone know why Clyde were removed from Shawfield and who owns it now ,Surely there a few well heeled business men or women out there who could purchase it ,With Celtic The OldFirm ,Patrick Thistle and Clyde in Glasgow .
GREENPINATA on 22ND APRIL 2022 10:37 AM
I haven’t seen the table paul is referring to but “rich lists” are often calculated on revenues, rather than actual values. The Forbes Money League is what a lot of people use which lists clubs by revenue. It’s why City would cost a lot less than Real Madrid to but sit above them in the table.
Most of the European Super League clubs have massive debt these days, from leveraged purchases, ground redevelopment, massive Covid losses, and poor financial management from trying to remain the in elite and keep up with the epl clubs and Petro dollar sports washers. What sets them apart from the smaller clubs is the ability to service those debts. They need cash, as long as they have it, or guarantees of getting it people will continue to lend them money. The ESL was all about the huge amounts of cash that a closed league would guarantee, now it’s gone you see Barca desperately cost cutting and selling naming rights to the nou camp, and Real Madrid doing an impression of a fiscally very well-run football club.
Not fiscally, financially
New Article posted
Outside of the obvious crimes against the game that PSG and City with their state-sponsored cheating have perpetrated, the worst has to be what the Glazers have done to United
When Paul67 talks about fundamentals, they are different for each club, in as much as they are geared to different aims. Simply, without all the conspiracy nonsense, our main aim is to put a successful football team on the pitch while maintaining a self-supporting business that doesn’t endanger the existence of the club. The business of Celtic supports the footballing operations. It’s a simple proposition and it’s worked over a long period of time, and, so far, with a terrible blip having been weathered.
With United it’s the other way round. The Glazers bought the United by borrowing against what they were buying, with the knowledge, having done their sums, that they could service the debt and pay themselves a nice salary and dividends without adding to it. Success wasn’t necessary, just enough of the illusion of trying to achieve it that they could keep the worldwide fan base inside and keep the brand at the top.
They’re now in trouble. The attitudes from the top, that success on the pitch isn’t a pre-requisite have percolated downwards long enough that they’ve got losers on the pitch and in charge of the team. They need a new starting 11, a new manager.
And the ground is in desperate need of a lot of money being spent on it. Almost all the European Super League teams have better stadiums. Old Traffird looks nothing like the ground of the best football club in the world, but the Glazers have taken hundreds of millions of pounds out of the club while not investing a penny in the ground. Now they’re talking about a rebuild, using Spurs’s architects. I would be extremely unhappy if Celtic were simply copying one of our rivals place, especially when it’s massively overpriced and a serious handicap to them these days
It’s nothing like the debate about our main stand. New stuff is nice, even nicer when it’s paid for on tick at low rates. However, if the maths doesn’t add up, if it doesn’t pay for itself, or saddles us with debt that costs us to much or we struggle to repay at the expende of the team when interest rates rise, as they definitely will, then we shouldn’t do it.
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TURKEYBHOY on 21ST APRIL 2022 10:06 PM
My worry for Sunday is the surface.Its a disgrace
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Pray enlighten us on when you last visited Dingwall to form an educated opinion of the playing surface at Victoria Park.