A comfortable win in the end masked a difficult hour for Celtic at Inverness on Saturday. It was not until Ki Sung-Yeung replaced Georgios Samaras that Celtic were able to prize open the home team. Ki has the range of passing and shot that makes him a formidable attacking threat but he has still to require the consistency of concentration that would make him a certain starter.
After Paddy McCourt appeared on 69 minutes Celtic were well on top. The Irishman brings the double gifts of time and space to the team. He has the ability to take and retain possession despite the close attention of several defenders, allowing others to take up advance positions or relieve pressure on defence.
We’ve tried more midfield formations this season that I can keep track of and despite Ki and McCourt improving Celtic considerably on Saturday I’m not going to insist either is given a starting berth. Both still have more to give, as do the rest of the midfield.
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ßjmac ® °¿° says:
22 November, 2011 at 01:15
I’m with you mate, golf course for me too if we back the huns newco!!
To me if the current board votes to keep them in the SPL it would be worse than anything the previous board did to the club and the final straw for me after 35 years week in week out.
mic1888
I believe that the only way forward for Celtic is without
them. I think PMcG’s piece last week was to put the board on notice of how things would not be tolerated with a “hauner” vote for the OF bloc.
Won’t happen IMO
TAL
Does Hauner have two n’s?
MWD –
Sorry for the delay in responding to your post about the booing at the Samaras substitution, but only just catching up.
I think you’ll find it was the ICT fans who were booing. They were still blaming him for the sending-off and had booed his every touch thereafter.
Haunner…Mibbee aye.
Torontony would know how many n’s.
A few weeks ago, Phil Mac Giolla Bhain announced that he had heard “from a reliable source” that Celtic FC had already agreed to allow a new Rangers FC to remain on the SPL, intact and unpunished.
CQN immediately went into meltdown as poster after poster expressed their disgust at such a betrayal, and life-long Celtic supporters threatened to walk away from the club they love.
A few days later, Paul67 re-assured us all that, having approached and spoken to a Celtic board member, no such agreement had been reached.
Now, on the back of a proposed new TV deal for the SPL, Phil Mac Giolla Bhain suggests it might be a sign that he was right after all.
CQN is again in meltdown as poster after poster expresses their disgust at such a betrayal, and life-long Celtic supporters threaten to walk away from the club they love.
Tum-te-tum.
Hi-diddly-dee.
Here’s a wee quiz . . .
Rearrange these words into a well-known phrase or sentence
ME SCOTTY UP BEAM
Not that I take the Daily Mail as Gospel… Only a fascinating barometer of what preoccupies it’s readers celebrity interest.
Nevertheless….
I have said it once and I will say it again.
Classic line from The Godfather is applicable if such a scenario unfolds..
Would the PLC after taking care of business….
“Take the Hun, leave the Cannoli…..
Of course they would! It’s not personal it’s just business….
Some Tims need to wake up to The Insidious Nature o The Market. And stop being Romantics about the contemporary PLC figureheads…. The World has changed. It’s a Global PLC.
What is ridiculous is the lack of integrity and overt duplicity of the Scottish Football Authorities.
Professional? No. Farcical…. They cannas even lie right….
Well it looks like I was wrong. It looks like I was DEAD WRONG.
It looks like a grubby, stinking, rancid, reeking backdoor deal HAS been done, and the SPL has written it in stone.
I’m done with it. I am DONE WITH IT.
I am not setting foot in an SPL ground again, AND THAT INCLUDES CELITC PARK.
I am not supporting this corrupt joke of a league. My money has better uses. The framing of this deal means that the entire game in this country is constructed around two teams (and in reality only one team). That is a loaded deck, pure and simple. What would happen if Rangers fell so far after administration they couldn’t stay in the top six? What would the consequences be? Would they CHANGE THE RULES to keep them in it?
Sod this for a laugh. I’m not paying for the “product” in the meantime. It’s a disgrace.
I repeat, I’m done with it, and that includes Celtic. I’ll support from the sidelines, but I will NEVER AGAIN pay a penny to watch an SPL match.
James Forrest –
Why?
What has happened?
Serious question.
.
Why would a So Called Celtic supporting Journalist stick the Knife into Celtic FC..Just as we are Starting to Fight back..On and Off the Field..
Why..
Why Would Supporters of Celtic FC..Jump ship (or Threat too)..Mid-season on the Back of Internet Rumours..
Ahhh..Russian Mafia..Good Source..Well Placed Source..Sputnik attacks..Hackers from Behind the Red (White and Blue) Curtain..Jings..
Imagine the Uproar if the Green Brigade Stuck the Knife into Celtic..
Summa ft InternetChineseWhispersCSC
James Forrest
Not living back home and having experienced all that is a day in the life of a Tim.
Surely if you feel this way then the place to express it is to the club itself.
It all sounds as if this is the last straw and if so then it is Celtic PLC that should be hearing it first hand.
CQN is a great source for all things Celtic and does get the message across but if this is the opinion of many then a boycott at least of all away games will be a start to get people to stand up and appreciate the size and passion of our support, or am I just living in cloud cuckoo land?
Tom McLaughlin:
Neil Doncaster has framed this debate as if league reconstruction was the issue. It wasn’t the issue and it never has been the issue. Today’s announcement is a sham, pure and simple, and the mention of “four Old Firm games”, something which has NEVER been stated as a requirement of TV deals in the past, was put in there for one reason only, which is to present a rescue of Rangers as an SPL club as fait accompli, and something which can’t be altered.
Purely and simply, this is a stitch-up. The entire way he has framed the deal narrows the entirity of Scottish football to TWO TEAMS, one of which is teetering on the edge of annihilation. it is a no holds barred plea for the game to get behind Rangers for the “benefit” of all, and I am not wearing it.
I don’t care if my own club voted against it. I still believe if we WANTED to stop a stitch up in its tracks we could do it.
I will not fund a corrupt league, structured around two teams. I have enough difficulty swallowing the twin concepts of buying a season ticket to fund a healthy balance sheet as well as paying the wages of serial failures like Scott Brown.
I am not paying to support a bent league. That’s a step too far. My money is mine to do with what I will, and in a recession I have more important things to spend it on than funding the millionaire lifestyles of mercenary footballers and supporting the corruption of the SPL and the SFA.
I’m done with it. All of it.
Minceyheidman:
it won’t do any good to telegraph our disapproval to people who are only concerned with getting our money.
We are customers to them, nothing more. And so I shall act like one.
James Forrest.
I empathize at this juncture.
It is packaged as the first PR card to be played.
Hastily convened etc…
Not unanimous etc..
Patronizing PR spin…
In the words of the Sex Pistols…
“Ever Get the feeling you’ve been cheated?”
Well….. No doubt!
But maybe our collective grandparents (Billy and Tim) were a little wiser?
“Thumbing through the history of Scottish Cup winners the other day, I noticed that no one seemed to have won the trophy in 1909,” writes Douglas Rawlins. “Did they have a year off? What really happened?”
Ah, Douglas, you appear to have stumbled upon the story of the Hampden Riot, which resulted in the Scottish Football Association holding back the trophy. Back in 1909, Rangers and Celtic had set up another Old Firm final showdown, which went to a replay after the sides drew 2-2 in a thrilling first game. But rumours began sweeping the city that the SFA had been fixing Cup ties in a bid to ensure maximum income from replays, sparking suspicion and mistrust among both sets of supporters.
That sense of paranoia peaked after the replay on April 17, which finished in a 1-1 draw; as the players left the field an announcement revealed there would be no extra-time and the thinning patience of 60,000 supporters finally ran out. Fans from both sides united to invade the pitch for more than 2½ hours, tearing up the goalposts and setting fire to the wooden barricades. Mounted police were fended off with stones and even the goalposts, while the fire brigade was also repelled by missiles and had its hoses cut. Around 50 policemen were injured as the riot eventually left the stadium and moved towards the city centre.
Both clubs petitioned the SFA to have the tie abandoned and their demands were duly met when officials decided the match would not be replayed. The cup and all medals were withheld, although both clubs were compensated to the amount of £150, while Queen’s Park received £500 for the damage. “I would suggest the withdrawal of all policemen from football matches,” wrote one correspondent in the Glasgow Evening Times, “and substitute a regiment of soldiers with fixed bayonets.”
Re Amish discussion on page 6. This from wiki:
Because members usually get baptized no earlier than 18 and children are not counted in local congregation numbers, it is difficult to put an exact figure on the number of Amish. Rough estimates from various studies have placed their numbers at 125,000 in 1992, 166,000 in 2000, and 221,000 in 2008, for a growth rate of nearly 4% per year.[17] From 1992 to 2008, population growth among the Amish in North America was 84%. During that time they established 184 new settlements and moved into six new states.[18] In 2000, approximately 165,620 Old Order Amish resided in the United States, of which 73,609 were church members.[19] The Amish are among the fastest-growing populations in the world, with an average of 6.8 children per family.[20]
There are Old Order communities in 27 U.S. states and the Canadian province of Ontario; Ohio has the largest population (55,000), followed by Pennsylvania (51,000) and Indiana (38,000).[21] The largest Amish settlements are in Holmes County in central Ohio, Lancaster County in south-central Pennsylvania, and Elkhart and LaGrange counties in northeast Indiana.[22] The largest concentration of Amish west of the Mississippi River is in Missouri, with other settlements in eastern Iowa and Southeast Minnesota.[23] In addition, there is a population of approximately 10,000 Old Order Amish in West Central Wisconsin. [24] Because of rapid population growth in Amish communities, new settlements are formed to obtain sufficient farmland. Other reasons for new settlements include locating in isolated areas that support their lifestyle, moving to areas with cultures conducive to their way of life, maintaining proximity to family or other Amish groups, and sometimes to resolve church or leadership conflicts.[18]
A small Beachy Amish congregation associated with Weavertown Amish Mennonite Church exists in Ireland
The last line was a surprise.
I have been out in Lancaster County a few times, there is a great steam railway museum there.
The area is very rural and the Amish only farm by traditional methods. No electricity, motors or TV.
The horse and buggy is the mode of transport even on main roads. Graet for the rose growers.
‘GG
awe naw dont tell me ..how can they sign a 5 year deal if the huns are liquidated?
Moonbeams WD. \o/ Supporting Neil Lennon 100%. C’mon the hoops. says:
21 November, 2011 at 23:35
What are you on about? I didnt read over all 200 pages since last time whappened?
All my life I’ve lived beside the waters that they call the Clyde.
I build the ships and watch them glide down the Broomielaw, sir.
Trudge to work in sleet and rain, labour for another’s gain,
Know yer place and don’t complain, that’s the rich man’s law, sir.
When I was young I read with pride how Scotland’s heroes fought and died,
Tae keep the nation fortified against the English crown, sir.
Scots wha hae wi’ Wallace bled by clerics fancy were mislead,
Fought among themselves instead and by it were brought down, sir.
When the Billy Boys are marchin’ in the sash their father’s wore,
The day they slew the Fenien crew three hundred years before,
The gentry give a smile and lift their glasses to John Bull,
Who keeps us all in poverty with the old Divide and Rule.
The pipes did play the drums did beat on heathered glen and cobbled street.
The sullen tramp of marching feet returned the call to arms, sir.
In the field where cattle grazed, brother’s hand at brother raised,
Thus the name of God was praised in the smoke of burning farms, sir.
Would that I might see the day when tyranny is swept away,
And honest work for honest pay becomes the right of all, sir.
As for Gentile so for Jew, Protestant and Catholic too,
Every race and every hue secure within four walls, sir.
And the Billy Boy and Fenien together make a stand
To raise the flag of Worker’s Power all across the land.
Declare it in the factory, the office and the school,
We’ll put an end to poverty and the old Divide and Rule.
I am having difficulty determining the democratic contrasts re the GB and taxes.
Why a debate?
GB Free speech.
Dont pay your taxes.Jail.
Whats to ponder?
If a citizen hadn’t paid taxes to the tune of 50 mill they’d be in jail.
Democratic nations that give exceptions to either free speech or taxes then Its the end of the world as we know it as that
great philosopher REM once said.
What are we? Muslims who fund Kings? Maybe that’s next? Religious states?
Problem is our taxes are being used for wars and free speech is is being abused to antagonize.
Enough rope etc etc!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSYPecZI_AI
Rest in Peace Alistair.
Not to worry with no Huns in the SPL Celtic will get a bigger share ..eh? ..or did I miss something?
Maggie…
Citizens?
Subjects of the crown is the legal definition I believe….
legal? are taxes legal? sem an tics maybe dunno
“do you think the huns 49 million unpaid tax might have been better spent on the scottish education system?” might be a better question…
:o)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/scottish-premier/8905462/Recession-beating-five-year-TV-deal-binds-Celtic-and-Rangers-to-SPL.html
There we have it in black and white.
They really are in league with the devil…
Rewarded for not paying your tax.
Remember, the Lisbon Lions weren’t hampered by using Barrowfield.
There have been so many great players who have trained there through the years — Jimmy Johnstone, Kenny Dalglish and Henrik Larsson. And they didn’t too badly at Celtic, did they?
For all it was routinely slaughtered as a dump, Celtic enjoyed some fabulous trophy success using it.
The important thing to remember is that for all the wonderful facilities you have, if you ain’t got the players or the right coaches then you’re going to win NOTHING.
Time for a cliche Big Billy nail hit on head
‘One of the conditions of this deal — as with all major sponsorships — is that Celtic and Rangers remain in the league. It is also a condition that they play each other four times a season. That’s been with us for the entirety of the current deal and before that with Setanta.’
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2064512/Scottish-Premier-League-agree-new-80m-TV-deal.html#ixzz1eO5y6IOQ
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This is no excuse for the Hun not to be punished as per any other team in Scottish football.
If the newco sectarian FC are allowed in then CFC should make it clear we will walk away, so the deal would be bust anyway.
I want Celtic out of the Scottish league and the sooner the better, I hope this is part of the strategy.
Oh and good morning Celts!
V
Morning CQN, this is way to early to be up.
A quick question, as shareholders are we entitled to see this TV contract Celtic has agreed to sign?
“too” even. Caffeine has not kicked in yet!
Rankers newco will be accepted back in the SPL and more to the point we all know it
The preliminary discussions have all taken place, whatever the outcome of the tax case a plan of action has been agreed to let Rankers continue
Celtic have a board who only believe in the bottom line, no other considerations the opinion of the fans means nothing
Phil will in time be proved correct
Good morning to all Celts
Last updated 22 Nov 2011 – 3:10 am
Those convicted os sectarian offences could spend as long as five years in prison
Labour has issued a fresh call for more time to be given to consider laws to tackle sectarianism, as the legislation comes back before MSPs.
The party said the Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications (Scotland) Bill, which is now in its second stage at Holyrood, is not fit for purpose.
The Justice Committee is due to debate 39 amendments to the legislation, which will create two offences relating to behaviour deemed to “incite religious, racial or other forms of hatred” in and around football grounds and on the internet.
Those convicted could spend as long as five years in prison and be banned from football grounds.
The renewed calls for more time follow a debate earlier this month in which all opposition parties urged the SNP Government to think again on the Bill.
Labour MSP and deputy convenor of the committee James Kelly said: “We have made our position on this Bill very clear. As it stands it is not fit for purpose and the tabled amendments won’t alter that.
“We had asked the Government to take time to reflect on views being expressed by the legal profession, the football authorities, supporters’ organisations, the churches and others and to meet with them to discuss their concerns, but this has not happened. Only last week we had the latest statistics on religiously aggravated offences which showed the existing legislation is working well.”
He added: “It is still not too late for the SNP to call a halt. They should stop now, put the Bill on hold and work with the Labour Party and others to develop a package of measures to tackle the scourge of sectarianism. If in 12 months’ time, there is a consensus that legislation is required we will work constructively with the Government to bring the required changes forward.”
SNP MSP and committee member Humza Yousaf said: “Scottish Labour does not know what way it wants to go. Labour MSPs voted for it at Stage 1, didn’t put forward any amendments at Stage 2 and are now saying they will abstain from voting altogether.
“Abstaining from voting at Stage 2 shows Labour is reluctant to help eradicate the scourge of sectarian hate crime – and the people of Scotland will want to know the reasons why these politicians have refused to take a stance.”
SNP MSP and committee member Humza Yousaf said: “Abstaining from voting at Stage 2 shows Labour is reluctant to help eradicate the scourge of sectarian hate crime
Humza Yousef this bill will eradicate sectarian hate crimes will it?
Plonker
young career politician prepared to kiss ass for career development, away and gies piece
Comment from a US based friend of a friend on Facebook –
“LOL! We have a dead hun we found that had been hit on the road. We froze it and are going to let the pups sniff it.”
The hun in question is apparently a Hungarian partridge!!
So there you go, we can call thems huns, and simply state that they remind us of Hungarian partridges, and walk out of the courthouse as free men.
Lurcy
Knowledge of the legal implications of tweets and Facebook messages is “dangerously lacking” in Scotland, a study has found.
A YouGov study found only one in five Scots – 19% – had read the terms and conditions of the social media site they used, and only one in 10 knew their legal rights.
Half of Twitter users – 48% – do not consider if their tweet could be in breach of the law before they send it, the study found.
The poll, on behalf of law firm DLA Piper, asked 2,095 adults about social networks and the law.
Seventy per cent of those questioned said they wanted special legal guidelines brought in, and 39% said they thought people using social media should be held to the same standards as journalists when they publish comments and opinions.
John McKinlay, head of DLA Piper’s Scottish Intellectual Property and Technology Group, said: “The use of social media in Scotland, and indeed across the globe, has developed dramatically over the last three years.
“The rise of Twitter and the significant increase in use of outlets such as Facebook and LinkedIn have resulted in social media becoming a pervasive and important part of everyday life.
“However, our research indicates that users’ awareness of the law relating to social media is still dangerously lacking.
“Recent events such as the celebrity Twitter scandals may have begun to challenge this perception that the online environment is – or indeed should be – free of regulation.
“The legal downsides for unwary bloggers can be significant. Regardless of any uncertainties over the status of online intermediaries, the original author of unlawful material will be considered responsible for their posts. Defamatory comments in social media have led to pay-outs of many thousands of pounds.”
Good morning fellow Celts from dry, mild North Hampshire
Celtic_First says:
21 November, 2011 at 22:24
a good read mate
the way around this voting issue, if you had ‘currant’ inclinations, would be a re-jig of the spl numbers from 12 to 14.
With no relegation this season and the top two in 1st division being promoted.
That way the existing 11 (including a complicit CFC board) can vote to keep the currants up. Remove or reduce any challenges from ‘excluded’ 1st div challengers. ( a wee sweetener to the 2 other 1st div play-offs teams would keep them on-side)
To be clear I am not advocating this plan. Just pointing out one way they can get around the voting difficulties you mention.
History tells us they will do whatever they need to do.
As for dissenting voices: Hearts might not be owned by Vlad by the time it comes to a vote and Celtic will argue they talked really, really tough by negotiating a 15 point deduction this season and a 10 point deduction the following season. It was the best deal they could get. Honest to god.
I doubt we will ever see the curranrts go down. Sad to say.
HH
M
Barrach O, did ye not bother with sleep? You were posting after midnight and …. Almost first to post this morning :>)
V