The Scotsman did an interesting article today on the fact that recent attendances at Celtic Park have fallen well short of the circa 46,000 paid for tickets, the majority of which are season tickets. It touches on several issues.
Suggestions that a league in which Celtic inevitably process to the title is less attractive to the spectating public than a league with a competitive challenge is not a surprise. It would be bizarre otherwise.
Still, many Celtic fans continue to support the club for a whole variety of reasons: we want to see it prosper, we enjoy going to games with our family and friends, and, unsurprisingly, we enjoy watching football.
Anyone who doubted that attendances would soften after Rangers were liquidated should have widened their survey sample. For most of us, this was a welcome change. The joys of beating Rangers were undeniable, but most of us have a deeper relationship with Celtic.
The Scotsman predict that in the event there was never a “team called Rangers in the top flight” Celtic would endure some serious downsizing. If we remained within the confines of Scottish league football this is undeniably true. So what? There would be little competition, less income, fewer signings and more promotion from the youth team.
In this scenario there would inevitably be fewer Champions League nights too, but in the big scheme of things, would we want it any other way? Of course not. Celtic will be there, in sunshine or in shadow, playing football and paying their bills. I’d sign up for this right now.
There is, of course, the question of how welcome our continued presence in Scottish football would be with the prospect of not just winning 10-in-a-row, which I hear our favourite Sevconian, Ally McCoist, is now discussing as a possibility, but the realisation that 10 would soon become 20, or 30-in-a-row.
All Celtic can do is continue to win football matches, pay their bills and see off all challengers. The game here is irrevocably broken; the consequences of this will continue to emerge in the months and years to come. All we know for sure is that Celtic will prevail, no matter which scenario plays out.
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If Scotland get Independance would there be any Change to our Football..?
Apart from Losing the Dreaded ‘Battle of Britain’ games..;-)
Summa
Greengrass.
See this cash that it is all about raking in?
Where does it go exactly?
How much is spent on running Celtic and how much goes into DD and PL’s pockets?
Are they earning too much in terms of the time and energy PL puts into the job and what DD could get by investing his money elsewhere?
There may be an argument that what they get is an overpayment but that same argument could apply to the players.
The inference I take from your statement is that they are only interested in personal gain. If that is what you meant what should they be getting?
If you did not mean that then what did you mean?
As long as the majority of what they are raking in goes on the football operatio, I would be more worried if they were NOT concerned with raking it in.
doc
Ye got ma point. :) hahahahaha
Weefra HH supporting Wee Oscar.
CowieBhoy, thanks.
Why do commentators say
‘Sevco back to where they belong at the top of scottish football’ ?
Dear oh dear
Desporados
Right guys, watching Mrs Brownes Bhoys.
Weefra HH supporting Wee Oscar.
WeeFra, indeed, liked it too.
Fabulous atmosphere? Something should be done about that fud Spanner
Summa of Sammi….
21:38 on 30 December, 2013
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‘If Scotland get Independance would there be any Change to our Football..?’
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It would kill stone dead any chance of us ever playing in England.
No betting on thems game again …depressing viewing
Wee Tanner seems delighted ….just a wee Hun cretin …
WeefratheTim
21:41 on
30 December, 2013
Right guys, watching Mrs Brownes Bhoys.
Weefra HH supporting Wee Oscar.
Can you no multi task :-)
Weefra
I cracked it :-) at last home game, had Doc sitting next to me.
We even managed to agree on something – I think
Hail Hail
We agreed TBJ was a champion hurdler;-)
Article from E-Tim’s mentioned earlier some good points well made :
ETIMS ROUGH GUIDE TO BRINGING THE CROWDS BACK TO CELTIC PARK
December 30, 2013 · by Hector Bandido · in Latest, Specials
1. Play entertaining football – Be honest it’s pretty desperate far too often. We tried a midfield diamond away to Hearts and Motherwell and played terrific football before reverting back to 4-2-3-1. Why? We aren’t playing in the Champions League. Don’t start Sami and Jamesy until they merit a place on form or when others don’t perform rather than them being guaranteed starters. Earn a place. We don’t need 5 in midfield tor the SPL. Take the chains off the players and allow them to express themselves playing attacking football with players high up the pitch, overlapping fullbacks and one protecting midfielder. Be imaginative. We have an incredible financial advantage over the other SPFL teams. Sure we’ll have the odd poor game but this shouldn’t be the case as often as at present. If we lose 2 goals so what? Let’s score 3 or 4 or 5. Cavalier football. It’s the Celtic Way….
2. Celtic Park stewards – Tell them and their boss Ronnie Hawthorne to behave and wind their necks in. Their behaviour at times is appalling. Picking on teenagers for standing up and trying to bring an atmosphere to the CP morgue (see crap fitba above!). Unless they are battering someone over the head with a wine bottle or being neds let them be.
3. The Green Brigade – Get their dedicated section up and running again. Only a fool would deny they have been a breath of fresh air at CP. Without them it’s a morgue (see point 2) and more of a morgue when the football on offer is poor (see point 1). Work with them and embrace a major asset. Just can’t get enough, the lonesome boatman, Glasgow’s Green and White, 125 years tifo v Barca, 4 horsemen of the apocalypse. Absolutely bloody stunning. Aye they are rough round the edges, aye they like their politics like most of our support but they are ultras for goodness sake not school prefects! They should ditch the pyro at CP but for goodness sake work with them and stand up for the fans rights.
4. Offensive Behaviour Bill – We know some on the PLC played a central role in this primarily working with Stephen House who has driven this ridiculous bill through with the support of the Scottish Government. Time to now work to remove it from the statute. It creates division with our support as it’s an abomination of their liberties. You called it wrong now work with House and Salmond to change at earliest opportunity.
5. Academy players – Give youth players a run in the team to prove themselves. League is guaranteed. Let’s see the best of them (Henderson, Findlay, Johnstone, Atajic) given a start of two to three games (not necessarily at the same time) to see what they can do. These kids have dominated the youth system in Scotland for years regularly beating the best Dundee United’s much heralded academy has to offer, There’s a very strong chance that some of our players are even better than theirs……
6. Young ‘Projects’ – Why aren’t these guys given a chance to prove themselves? Rogic? Balde? Give them a chance rather than same old faces doing predictable things. If it doesn’t work out then sell them or move them on. It’s not as if we are going to lose the league and who knows, we might just might have one or two players on our hands!
7 Reduce ticket prices – Sure season ticket prices were reduced by £100 but they were way overpriced for years. £300 at maximum for an adult with the kid’s season ticket free. It’s £50 just now, Reduce and make up the revenues elsewhere with smarter marketing. Also offer cheaper day tickets. £15 for most domestic games with a top price of £20. The days of season tickets being a must are gone for now. They must be given an incentive to renew ST’s as it’s guaranteed revenue. Offer domestic cup games and Euro qualifiers on the ST’s and access to all U20 youth team games for free.
8. Stadium catering – Provide better quality affordable food, not crap pies at way overinflated prices. It’s 2014 now (almost!) so start acting like it is and not the 1970’s. Better caterers, more choice and make the fans or customers as you like to call us, feel like we are getting treated with respect. Put seats at the catering areas. Offer more choice and people may be inclined to spend more and not fill their faces pre-match.
9. Merchandise – You have the club superstore and a cabin outside the ground. Provide a place inside each stand that offers this facility. You can do it for a bookies so why not do it with something to do with Celtic inside Celtic Park. But here’s a wee suggestion. Make the club merchandise more affordable. Yet again we pay more than you do on the high street. Make it competitive. Make the support feel as if we are all in this together and not being exploited. Better prices, happier fans and more fans = more sales = more profit.
10. The Celtic supporters are Celtic – Don’t treat us like second class citizens. Do most of the above and make us feel that we are all in it together again. Take the lead. Pay our lowest paid staff a living wage. Provide more support to the poorest in our community. Not just using a charity fund to pay that admirable as it is, is pretty much the supporters paying again. Be at the forefront. Our club roots are second to none. It’s about helping those in desperate need in desperate times. Well for many it’s desperate right now. Look at that statue of Walfrid outside the front door of Celtic Park. What would he have done? Given big bonuses and paid the minimum wage while people are starving? Of course not. Community comes first. A socialism without the politics? Not really it’s just feeling proud of who we are, where we come from and what we can do to help. We are Celtic. Be special and lead the way and we will back you in our drives.
Peter Lawwell. The ball (literally) is in your hands.
Bada bing
From a Hun perspective it was
To everyone else it was another example of their hate filled , bigoted bile
Tanner is a Hun …so he loved it
Ernie Lynch
Boll**ks
Summa of Sammi,
Maybe your wee survey Down Under just goes to prove that those living far away have forgotten how awful they are. Nobody (and I really mean nobody) I know who goes to the games really ever wants the deid team back. Personally, if we have to have to host their new look alikes, I will be posted absent whenever they visit Celtic Park.
Cheers Doc, I am >}
HH
Doc, definitely agreed on that, a real lol moment :-)
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ernie lynch
21:33 on
30 December, 2013
Summa of Sammi….
21:31 on 30 December, 2013
‘over 20 People l know here in Oz’
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Distance lends enchantment to the view.
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Do You Honestly think that is it..?
Is Hatred more intense back Home..?
for Example..A Old Firm game here is a Sat or Sunday night out..with Guys you might Only see 4 times a Year..;-)
Summa
adi_dasler
21:47 on 30 December, 2013
Nah Ernie’s right.
Bayern Munich playing in La liga???
The next phase in European meglomaniac money making hype is the European Super League and to get rid of the 20 or so shite league prospects. Celtic will be borderline applicants.
prestonpanbhoys
Nae chance can I multi task, I’m a man, according to mrsweefra. Hahahaha.
Weefra HH supporting Wee Oscar.
Neil son see you back here in Jan
Dear oh dear
When have Sky been given that access to coaches ?
Margaret McGill
21:15 on 30 December, 2013
Wrycatcher
Did you call me an orange person born out of catholic wedlock earlier?
Just askin ken?
As for visiting other blogs…heaven67…Wrong! again!
ok about this unbeaten run lets start again.
Anyone?
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Belated Messi Christmas greetings to you and all that you cherish.
It is obvious that Yeshuah wisne born on the 25th of Dec, it certainly disnae mean believers shouldn’t celebrate his arrival, maist people and faiths do.
Onto a lot more important matters, for most. I am not interested in an unbeaten run, I want Celtic to Win and wipe the floor with every opponent, obviously that isn’t possible.
Jock Wanted his team to sicken the opposition so they wouldn’t want to come out in the 2nd half. I am a patient man, believe that if you will, but there is lethargy in players and we have an abundance of guys just chomping at the bit ready to rumble from our youth systems.
It is human nature to not get so motivated for a non event of a game, the Hearts Scottish Cup game just showed how far the Celts are ahead of everyone now. Celtic were Brilliant in Milan this season and really looked like a CL team there.
I’m Natalia and I’m Torn.
cowiebhoy @2144
Nope, don’t believe you. Lol
Weefra HH supporting Wee Oscar.
Spanner manages to mention the Boys Brigade…….dearie me
For those who are disappointed.
Teams in CL last 16
Manchester City FC
FC Barcelona
Bayer 04 Leverkusen
Paris Saint-Germain
Arsenal FC
FC Bayern München
AC Milan
Club Atlético de Madrid
FC Zenit
Borussia Dortmund
Olympiacos FC
Manchester United FC
Galatasaray AŞ
Chelsea FC
FC Schalke 04
Real Madrid CF
I beleive that at least 9 teams of these would not have reached the last 16 if they was in Celtic’ s group.
cliftonville celt from belfast praying for Oscar the wee legend
21:46 on 30 December, 2013
Can’t argue with any of those 10 points, unless you are on the board of directors.
Turn up, pay up & shut up is the mantra of the ‘custodians’!!
petec
21:54 on 30 December, 2013
You and me are Celtic supporters
Faithful through and through
I wanted to comment on this article because it is in my view the best article I have read about being a Celtic supporter in a long time .Thank You
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Parkheadcumsalford who is supporting the Amsterdam 5
21:47 on
30 December, 2013
Summa of Sammi,
Maybe your wee survey Down Under just goes to prove that those living far away have forgotten how awful they are. Nobody (and I really mean nobody) I know who goes to the games really ever wants the deid team back. Personally, if we have to have to host their new look alikes, I will be posted absent whenever they visit Celtic Park.
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The reason l have Asked this Question..Is Posters l respect and many of them l have Met are Stating it..Like yourself..
And with the Greatest of Respect..l read it as..‘I Support Celtic But
We ALL Probably Agree that we Don’t want the Rangers Supporters back..Where would Sport be without your Greatest Rivals..
For the Record..How has Scotland fared since they Stopped the Auld Enemy games..?
Barcelona et al are Not our Greatest rivals and Never will be because ‘We’ are Not a Rival to them..
Summa
Margaret McGill ….
I made no reference to you that I am aware of?
Something gone right over my head otherwise.
TET, good stuff.
CowieBhoy, totally!
I’ve no seen a hun for many a year, and I pray it stays that way.
Never want them back ever again, I hope they die a second death, this time for good.
HH
Soreee, did see one earlier in the year, slipped the mind >}
Summa of Sammi,
I appreciate the distinction you make. I don’t see them (in any shape or form) as our greatest rivals. I don’t think we could simply play a team from Govan which did not have that odious support and al the concomitant baggage.
Margaret McGill
21:58 on 30 December, 2013
petec
21:54 on 30 December, 2013
You and me are Celtic supporters
Faithful through and through
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And almost everyone on this site is.
Shocking Heads
HH Bro
Cliftonville Celt
Great post put over in a really positive manner.
I would imagine that some of the suggestions would cost a fair bit but more fans using the improved services would generate higher revenues. The overall match experience would be improved too.
Now that Mrs Brown Bhoys, that was funny :-)
Hail Hail