So Charlie’s back. Did he ever really go away? I suspect not. Sevco Scotland/The Rangers FC/Rangers International is Charles Green’s project. He was the guy who picked the pieces up from the Rangers liquidator.
He was the guy, through liberal use of words like ‘bigotry’, ‘No surrender’ and ‘Dallas Cowboys’ managed to convince thousands of people to buy into a version of reality which convinced them to spend money.
He cut a deal with the compliant Ally McCoist to shift tickets in 2012, then did the same with Walter Smith in 2013, and co-opted a variety of flunkies to the cause along the way. The £22m raised at an IPO was down to him. No one else would have been able to achieve the latter feat, and he is needed again.
The move only appears audacious to those who have not been paying attention. When Green bought Rangers assets two years ago, the game was up. Those assets would be bled green, white and gold in order to provide as large a return on investment as possible. Nothing has changed.
What is needed at Ibrox right now is someone to pitch up saying, “Bigotry, No surrender, forget what I said earlier, it’s the same club, now buy your ticket, you tell them Ally/Walter/whoever next”. Charlie is perfect for this job.
The reality that existed pre-2012 is gone. That club’s assets were bought from a liquidator and are now masquerading around the lower leagues of Scottish football. Those who stepped forward, paid their money, and in doing so, actually gave thousands of people a club to support, are in charge – as is their right.
This is not a good thing if you have an affinity with that club, but it’s better than having Ibrox “razed to the ground” (remember Bomber Brown’s warning), so no matter what fans think of Charles Green, it’s time to accept his reality: Rangers were liquidated, fans were not organised, wealthy fans declined to step forward, the assets were bought by people who WILL make a financial return and Charles Green is one of the few people with an idea of how to deliver this.
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setting free the bears
Twitter reporting that Vincent Lunny is planning to leave the SFA in order to train to be a Dick Advocaat.
Well, he’s halfway there.
#tip your waitress #here all week
NatKnow
Thank you.
For MWD enjoy
John Lennon @Florindamq · 4m
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lionroars67
10:44 on 17 June, 2014
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Yeah, yer right mhan.
Hail Hail.
Iknow this might sound stupid but, Celtic are NEVER going to get any justice, sitting round a table with what, one catholic v’s what, fifteen masons?
The best way to deal with the huns was – to keep them in the league with sanctions.
20 points per season plus, having to pay back the ‘entire’ £140 million at say, £5 / £10 million per season?
Instead, it’s been made to look like a victory for the bampots but, in reallity, the huns could be back in the same league as us next season with the mibs getting them their CL money and, all the while….the victimised huns have walked away from paying / robbing £140million!!!
Who are the real mugs?
Natknow
As a tax payer I would be well within my rights to tell my government that they could not stand back and allow football total free rein to do as it pleases with my tax money.
The SG stance so far has been not to interfere in football matters.
I think that will become unacceptable.
In England there are moves afoot to make football more accountable.
This is from last May but I think there is something more recent.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/may/23/government-bill-football-reform
On a smaller scale Res12 is calling the SFA to account for their actions in the monitoring of the UEFA licence in 2011 and, regardless of the outcome of that, the SFA are being forced to provide answers to Celtic shareholders, something that I hope brings a realisation on all sides that they can be made accountable if the will exists.
lionroars67
10:44 on 17 June, 2014
Hi-diddle-dee-dee(tis an actors life for me)
10:30 on
17 June, 2014
Not attended away league games or SFA national team for many years now, as the SFA executive became openly blatantly corrupt and bias (President Peat jumping out his seat at ole Ragers scoring against Celtic) the decline of the game in Scotland is directly related to the embarrassment of the clubs in allowing fools and imbeciles to run the SFA, I decided if the election of a corrupt President and committee is what the clubs of Scottish football elect ? they must be happy with that ! I withdrew my money, seems reasonable to me
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I was hospitality at the 3-0 hibs cup final, a guest of my brother.
We were in the seats with the sfa…you know the ones. At the final whistle all of them got up and headed to the suites, only a handful of guests stayed to see Celtic lift the cup…no surprise there then. HH
Good morning all.
Weefra HH praying to Wee Oscar.
Auldheid
10:58 on 17 June, 2014
Natknow
As a tax payer I would be well within my rights to tell my government that they could not stand back and allow football total free rein to do as it pleases with my tax money.
The SG stance so far has been not to interfere in football matters.
I think that will become unacceptable.
In England there are moves afoot to make football more accountable.
This is from last May but I think there is something more recent.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/may/23/government-bill-football-reform
On a smaller scale Res12 is calling the SFA to account for their actions in the monitoring of the UEFA licence in 2011 and, regardless of the outcome of that, the SFA are being forced to provide answers to Celtic shareholders, something that I hope brings a realisation on all sides that they can be made accountable if the will exists.
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I would agree that if they’re being funded by taxpayer money then they should be answerable to government. Couple of issues – Firstly, I’m not sure how much funding they get from government. In my mind I seem to think it’s not a lot – worth looking in to. Secondly, as you point out, which politician is going to stick their neck out and make this a (more) political issue? I would be suprised if many of them were unhappy with what the SFA have done for Rangers – they’re batting on the same team.
Res 12 is a good thing and I sincerely hope it achieves it’s purpose. What I’m pretty sure of though is that it will not displace anyone in the SFA who has been guilty of corrupt practice.
Hi-diddle-dee-dee(tis an actors life for me)
in reallity, the huns could be back in the same league as us next season with the mibs getting them their CL money and, all the while….the victimised huns have walked away from paying / robbing £140million!!!
Who are the real mugs?
Calm yourself.
Rangers FC, as you knew them, are gone. What remains is a pauperised husk of the old club, and Scottish football is now a harsh environment in which badly run businesses are foundering.
Celtic are the richest Scottish club by a distance, and have a better than even chance of playing European football next season. Ibrox could just as easily be hosting a Hyperdale’s.
KEVJ
The huns are notorious for not coughing up. What makes you think that they would have honoured that arrangement?
After a coupla years it would be,oh we’ve suffered enough.
An axe murderer gets parole,so should we.
They got off lightly wi humiliation and placement in the bottom tier. But it hammered their income stream.
lionroars67
10:44 on 17 June, 2014
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Yer entitled tae yer view – just like me :)
HH
Is the UTT decision ok to appeal on?
Anyone know- 1,time frame if they do
2.who pays -BDO??
HH
KevJ
What’s with the multiple log-ins?
sipsini
11:02 on
17 June, 2014
Sipsini I can’t criticise anyone for not watching Celtic lift the cup neither did i !
Got a ticket for the final in the ballet gave it to a CQN’r
Got some good photos of my nephew and cup when team arrived back at Celtic park, fantastic
PS If i had been king i would have sent the cleaner up to take the cup from CO
Does anyone have a link to chuckles greens latest? I’m nightshift, so I’m out of touch of late.
KevJ boring,boring,boring,same old BS every single day.Away and geeze peace.
Have you ever stated anything positive about Celtic?
How can a so called Celtic supporter take so little joy from it?
Very odd indeed.
setting free the bears supports Res. 12 & Oscar Knox
11:19 on
17 June, 2014
KevJ
What’s with the multiple log-ins?
SFTB Don’t spoil his fun……………………………..
Are there not more nasty posters who multi log in
lionroars67.
HaHaHa….Glad you got good photos off your nephew. Catch a beer with your good self before a game next season. HH
sipsini
11:27 on
17 June, 2014
Going to pool tourney mate will catch you then take care
Hate nightshift you got my sympathies
Is sumdy lookin fur me?
If it’s a clique, that’ll be awe
the better.
lionroars67.
Look forward to it, bedtime for me.
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KEVJ
Oh,I get it now. You’re forming yer own clique via all these-rather imaginative-names.
Dunno why you bother,mate. No such thing as cliques on here,only friends acquaintances and drinking partners.
You’ve been invited on many occasions,difficult to complain if you don’t join in.
Natknow
The UK taxpayer is not confined to Scotland so it will not be an issue for Scotland alone to deal with.
Quite how the issue will be addressed, if at all in an independent Scotland, where it might be viewed as a legal means of subsidising the establishment club I set aside for the Independence debaters.
Then the idea that the SFA set up favours Rangers needs to be looked at in reality.
Look what that set up with no policing or willingness to deploy correction mechanisms (we call them rules) has brought them.
Even a deid in the wool hun MP could see the part a one sided SFA played in their downfall.
The attitude of other clubs has changed too. They see financial doping by a club who have no need to indulge in it robbing them of their lesser chance of success.
TRFC are much diminished in many respects including their commercial power over other clubs, so if ever there was a time to change the governance culture of football in Scotland it is now.
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
11:36 on 17 June, 2014
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Whit?
Thats a bit rich from a guy, the very same guy who came on here and openly boasted that you had ‘snitched’ me up to Paul 67 and that he had advised you to – not make any connection – with me and that, he(P67) would keep me under surveillance to see if my ahem, ‘bevavior’ got any worse?
And then, ye had the gall to ask me to one of yer – arse-lickers ball – do’s or, whatever ye call them. Aye.
You’ll deny all of the above of course, and I canny prove it but, we both know I’m right.
From here on in – ye don’t exist.
lionroars
Not trying to spoil any fun.
Just curious why anyone would use multiple log-ins when their style of posting is so recognisable and undisguised
Looking very much like Mark Venus and Peter Grant to take over at Hibernian.
Any further news on the Celtic coaching staff? It’s all gone very quiet on that front.
LB
Auldheid
11:37 on 17 June, 2014
Natknow
The UK taxpayer is not confined to Scotland so it will not be an issue for Scotland alone to deal with.
Quite how the issue will be addressed, if at all in an independent Scotland, where it might be viewed as a legal means of subsidising the establishment club I set aside for the Independence debaters.
Then the idea that the SFA set up favours Rangers needs to be looked at in reality.
Look what that set up with no policing or willingness to deploy correction mechanisms (we call them rules) has brought them.
Even a deid in the wool hun MP could see the part a one sided SFA played in their downfall.
The attitude of other clubs has changed too. They see financial doping by a club who have no need to indulge in it robbing them of their lesser chance of success.
TRFC are much diminished in many respects including their commercial power over other clubs, so if ever there was a time to change the governance culture of football in Scotland it is now.
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We may be talking at cross-purpose. I’m referring to the SFA and the money they get from the taxpayer making them accountable (or otherwise) to the UK taxpayer. I don’t think they receive that much funding from us and for that reason I do not think they will be held to account by anyone other than themselves. It was Rangers (and not the SFA) who stole from HMRC. It is being dealt with by the UTT. Whatever the UTT outcome, I do not believe the SFA will admit to having been guilty of anything – they were given information from the offending club and acted on it in good faith (they will claim). The structures and people will remain in place. I hope I am wrong.
Yes – the time they are a’ changin’ and surely there’s never been a better time to address the governance issues in Scottish football? What the fans would like is to see the SFA scrapped and a new and clean organisation put in it’s place. We do not need a UTT decision for this – it should be happening right now as the SFA have already proven themselves incompetent. But it’s not happening and I just don’t believe it will. Sorry to sound so cynical!
Off oot to see my old pal – Beltrami.
The House Of Flying Daggers Quick News
Summa of Sammi at 02:28
Some more pundits gettin’ it in the neck!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27867841
kevjungle
11:43 on 17 June, 2014
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
11:36 on 17 June, 2014
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Whit?
Thats a bit rich from a guy, the very same guy who came on here and openly boasted that you had ‘snitched’ me up to Paul 67 and that he had advised you to – not make any connection – with me and that, he(P67) would keep me under surveillance to see if my ahem, ‘bevavior’ got any worse?
And then, ye had the gall to ask me to one of yer – arse-lickers ball – do’s or, whatever ye call them. Aye.
You’ll deny all of the above of course, and I canny prove it but, we both know I’m right.
From here on in – ye don’t exist.
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Not true,KEV. And you know it.
You annoyed me so much wi yer usual input that I lost patience and told you to eff off.
More in exasperation than anger,but using a term which is not welcome on here.
I then mailed Paul to apologise and request that it be removed.
Never once have I complained to him about another poster on here,only about myself.
Take your wee persecution complex elsewhere.
Perhaps to the same place as your lies.
BMCUWP
My dear frind in Celtic…I am afraid that I can no longer attend any of your Do’s,Ball’s or Hootenany’s ,as I do not wish to be called an ‘erse licker’,hopefully we will remain on friendly terms.
Best, vp hh
VOGUEPUNTER
Can you do the taxiing then?
Cheers!
Sure Boab…usual T & C’s apply :O)
LiviBhoy
11:52 on
17 June, 2014
Looking very much like Mark Venus and Peter Grant to take over at Hibernian.
Any further news on the Celtic coaching staff? It’s all gone very quiet on that front.
LB
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LB,
This was tweeted this morning from Magne Jordan Nilsen @DTMagne · 2h
(who appears to be a Norwegian sports journalist)
Deila is in the process of putting together his team in Celtic. John Collins becomes ass. manager. John Kennedy first team coach.
Cheers,
BJM
VOGUEPUNTER
Magic,mate.
I’ll tell the troops to wear the guid trainers.
BJM68
I really hope that we aren’t seeing Danny McGrain being sidelined.
bjm68
Cheers mate. It’s being done very slowly. Celtic taking their time throughout this whole process. Please for JK. Hope Danny still has a role.
LB