Club-v-country has never been so acute as Celtic-Scotland right now

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These pages have seen Gordon Strachan written off many times since those four days in August 2005 when Celtic conceded nine goals to Artmedia and Motherwell. Last night, as Scotland manager, he got the breaks. First, at the most ridiculous dive for a penalty ever perpetrated by a player on a yellow card (and I have seen Steven Naismith), then, when tired defensive limbs contrived to concede a late winner for Scotland.

If he gets a result away to Slovenia on Sunday, he will have earned whatever grudging appreciation goes his way. A generation of adults have never seen Scotland at an international tournament. They don’t know the joys of losing 3-0 to Morocco, watching a defensive wall shirk at a free kick, or celebrating as an Iranian scored an own goal to deliver a point. It’s time they learned.

Little about Scotland’s success is good news for Celtic. Should we win the league, our first qualification round will start two weeks after the tournament kicks off. Although that round is unlikely to provide a particularly stiff challenge, consider what happened to Newco when they arrived unprepared against Luxembourg semi-professionals.

Even if Scotland don’t reach the finals in Russia, a second place finish in the group for Scotland would see the players face two play-off games in the middle of our Champions League group games, and the possibility of a League Cup final.

Brendan Rodgers will wish his players every success, but he would surely not be too distressed to share hard luck stories with them when they return to training next week. The club-v-country debate has kicked around for decades, but I doubt if any club/country combo has seen it as acute as it is for Celtic and Scotland right now.

Catch up with this CQN Podcast from last month when we interviewed Celtic star from the Centenary season, full back Chris Morris. It’s a great listen…

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  1. BATEEN BHOY -will give that a go,but my two five year old grandweans would probably do better:-))Tinseltown in the rain,if I could:-)))

  2. ok lets debate sorry you young uns. peter thomson .daviid francie. arthur montford ffs are there any celtic minded commentators almost forgot alex cameron he loved the celts aye right.

  3. Jobo,

     

    Didn’t get as much credit as he deserved over here IMHO.

     

    It’s like when Crowded House released a ‘Greatest Hits’ and in the advert for it, they said “you don’t know how many Crowded House songs you know until you listen to this” or something along those lines.

     

    Tom Petty was the same.

     

     

    Anyway. Here’s another one, with The Heartbreakers this time.

     

     

    https://youtu.be/Qv4-m-cIZf4

  4. fergusslayedtheblues on

    I must admit to questioning BR choice of 6 changes for the home tie against Hibs ,as I thought it would be a hard tie .

     

    Now after reading posts on the fixture list gone and still to come ,I have to admit to short term thinking on my part .

     

    I think by the time we finish the mulled wine and have CP toilets trashed our bhoys will have played 43 games (excluding international call ups )

     

    That is shed load of games and requires the FULL use of our squad .

     

    In Brendan we trust

     

    HH

  5. There was a time when International Football was a joy to watch but nowadays it’s pure shite.

  6. Welcome Theweetim…well, ur ye??

     

    Enjoying watching Turkey getting handed their ersson a plate by Iceland

     

    HH from SE Texas, hope yer all doing well.

     

    TC45

  7. TheCelt45,

     

    How South and East in Texas are you ? You’re not expecting Nate this weekend, are you ?

  8. Corky

     

     

    I’m with you mhate,couldn’t give a damn if international football finished tomorrow……….or even 30 years ago hh

  9. Bateen Bhoy @ 2108

     

    HH mate, about 40 miles SW of Houston, well out of the path of Nate thankfully!

     

    Still dryin’ oot from Harvey.

     

    TC45

  10. Delaneys Dunky on

    I think Craig Gordon would have saved both Daryl Murphy goals tonight. Glad Craig isnae Moldovan. :)

     

    COYBIG

  11. MOONBEAMSWD on 6TH OCTOBER 2017 9:24 PM

     

    I love international football.

     

     

     

    Not the qualifiers but the Euros and the WC.

     

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    OCH! You’re away wae it! :O)

  12. Delaneys Dunky on

    Bob Crampsey and Ian Archer were my favourite fitba commentators as a wean. They always seemed fair, which was unusual.

  13. TheCelt45

     

    Good to hear. I think y’all have seen enough water for one Hurricane season

     

    You’re not a Bay City Roller, are you ? :-)))

     

    Stay safe, friend.

     

     

    HH

  14. All over in Dublin, 2 nil to the Republic but I don’t think they will worry Wales in Cardiff.

  15. Finland equalise.

     

     

    Croatia will drop into the playoff position unless they get an injury time winner.

     

     

    Pukki has turned this game round since he came on..

  16. Delaneys Dunky on

    Bateen

     

     

    Lovin your Tom Petty links. Never knew he played with Eddie fae Pearl Jam.

     

    Great talent lost too young.

  17. glendalystonsils on

    David Begg on shortie was one of the worst commentators I’ve ever heard. I remember one game when Celtic scored and he didn’t say a word. No comment at all, only the roars of the Celtic fans told you that something had happened. It wasn’t until Murdo McLeod came in that we found out we had scored. Begg the bigot.

  18. DD

     

    He was much in demand with his fellow musicians – a tribute to his considerable talent. Just look at the guys he played with in The Wilburys – all bona fide musical legends, and he wasn’t out of place there.

  19. VP

     

     

    I thought the debate required a devil with his advocat. :-))

     

     

    Seriously though 2 or 3 weeks of solid footy during the close seasons always good every 2 years.

     

     

    Like to see Alba win but I would love to watch a wee 2 or 3 weeks (or days :-) with a wee bit of home interest rather than the usual hoping Engurland get jumped due to their comical commies.

     

     

    MWD

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