Club-v-country has never been so acute as Celtic-Scotland right now

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These pages have seen Gordon Strachan written off many times since those four days in August 2005 when Celtic conceded nine goals to Artmedia and Motherwell. Last night, as Scotland manager, he got the breaks. First, at the most ridiculous dive for a penalty ever perpetrated by a player on a yellow card (and I have seen Steven Naismith), then, when tired defensive limbs contrived to concede a late winner for Scotland.

If he gets a result away to Slovenia on Sunday, he will have earned whatever grudging appreciation goes his way. A generation of adults have never seen Scotland at an international tournament. They don’t know the joys of losing 3-0 to Morocco, watching a defensive wall shirk at a free kick, or celebrating as an Iranian scored an own goal to deliver a point. It’s time they learned.

Little about Scotland’s success is good news for Celtic. Should we win the league, our first qualification round will start two weeks after the tournament kicks off. Although that round is unlikely to provide a particularly stiff challenge, consider what happened to Newco when they arrived unprepared against Luxembourg semi-professionals.

Even if Scotland don’t reach the finals in Russia, a second place finish in the group for Scotland would see the players face two play-off games in the middle of our Champions League group games, and the possibility of a League Cup final.

Brendan Rodgers will wish his players every success, but he would surely not be too distressed to share hard luck stories with them when they return to training next week. The club-v-country debate has kicked around for decades, but I doubt if any club/country combo has seen it as acute as it is for Celtic and Scotland right now.

Catch up with this CQN Podcast from last month when we interviewed Celtic star from the Centenary season, full back Chris Morris. It’s a great listen…

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  1. mike in toronto on

    Hello lads

     

     

    I hope everyone is keeping well

     

     

    After today’s games, I am looking forward to the Ireland Wales game. I have a hunch that Ireland may spring s surprise and knock the three points

  2. St Stivs

     

    Naw I think the GB are quite capable of the same songs as you and I know.

     

    Their parents were good Tim’s from the days of the jungle and I’m sure the GB bhoys will be supported in the future by the grand children of the zombie club…..you already know that St Stivs lol.

     

     

    Hx2

     

    And offski

  3. Delaneys Dunky on

    Gordy

     

     

    A ton a ticket to see Roger Waters in Glasgow. Too much for me sadly. Would have loved to see him at the Hydro. Capitalism for you G. :)

  4. Gerryfaethebrig on

    AoW 11.59pm

     

     

    Before we got hitched I still had my own cashline :-)

     

     

    By the way we were together she enjoyed the winnings, every wee Smirnoff I tried to get Zenit St Petersburg I ti the conversation, remember back then the cheats were seemingly not cheating :-)

     

     

    Some might say nothing has happened to them…. I see it every day, they might not have e been punished enough for their cheating but I kid you not they are a broken people and we live in good Celtic times

     

     

    Brendan is special CSC

  5. Delaneys Dunky on

    MIT

     

     

    Hope you enjoyed Trashcan Sinatras gig. The 2nd best Ayrshire band after Mike Scott and his Waterbhoys. Got Room to Roam on now.

     

    Magical album, pixies and fairies stylee. ;))

  6. Gerryfaethebrig on

    Angel Gabriel 12.05am

     

     

    After Goaks Fior Shay now LMS don’t think anybody has got two in @ row best of luck absolutely loved your post after winning GFS

     

     

    Hail Hail

  7. Delaneys Dunky on

    Gordy

     

     

    Radiohead at Glasgow Green in July there was one of the best gigs I have been at. Less than half the price of Roger Waters at Hydro. Heard there are cheap seats going for £80 for RW. Joke.

  8. Delaneys Dunky on

    Gordy

     

     

    R R R and R by SLF is an amazing memory for me. Heard it for the first time at a Knightswood Community Centre Disco early 80s. Magic G.

  9. GFTB

     

    Cheers comrade . There’s a first time for everything . Just like 10 in a row ;-))

     

    I was hoping to hook up on the night we played PSG in the BV , but you were a non runner . Maybe get the chance to buy you a pint later this month prior to when we put Bayern to the sword . HH

     

     

    Off to the 4poster . Sleep well Timland .

  10. Re: Mandela

     

     

    I remember travelling down for Liam Brady (?) testimonial vs Arsenal and me and a few Celtic fans joining protest outside South African embassy at Trafalgar Square.

     

     

    Anyone there?

  11. One of my best mates at school was a big SLF fan. Liked them but was more into the Jam, Clash and others.

     

    Went to see them, early 80’s, more because he was buzzin for it than anything else.

     

    Was blown away, loved them live.

     

    Still not in the same class as the Jam though :-))

  12. Delaneys,

     

    long time since i listened to them,

     

    but had some good nights out watching them

  13. Gerryfaethebrig on

    AngekGabriel

     

     

    The night of the PSG game I was a 6.30pm finish up behind Buchanan Bus station (and it was chucking it down) I was hoping to bump into Corkcelt or others that day …. will hopefully talk rubbish about Celtic sooner or later am planning 11/11 even at least for a few hours or as long as am allowed out :-)

  14. ANGELGABRIEL

     

    Loved the Avicii/Lurgan link ! DELANEYS you got me listening to Waterboys now ! Mike Scott Ayrshire genius ! ANOTHERPRETTYFACE CSC

  15. Delaneys Dunky on

    Gordy

     

     

    Jake Burns was the Man live. Ali McMordie was up there wi JJ Brunell as a bass player.

     

    Two Tims and Two Prods trying for peace.

     

    Barbed Wire Love SLF

  16. Delaneys Dunky on

    PR67

     

     

    Mike Scott and Karl Wallinger together were genius. Putting World Party on now.

     

    Mike Scott raggle taggle Ayr Gypsy Tim.

  17. Gordy

     

    When you’re young – no pun intended – you just get into a zone where a band or an artist sort of sums up where you are at that time.

     

    For me it was the Jam.

     

    Still listen to them but just not with the same anger/emotion I had then fortunately.

  18. Gerryfaethebrig on

    Fellow Celtic fans good night and God bless

     

     

    Jimbo71 delighted you enjoyed your Thursday night with your pals watching WGS team, I will be cheering on the Scots & WGS on Sunday

     

     

    Hail Hail

  19. Gutenberg,

     

    yeah i kinda fell upon The Jam again just recently,

     

    hadnt listened to them for years,

     

    You Tube is great for reminding you of all the stuff you used to listen to