I received updates direct from last week’s Scottish Football League meeting shortly after it concluded. My information was that Neil Doncaster in particular was given a torrid time and that the mood among clubs was firmly against agreeing to place Sevco into the First Division.
Within a couple of hours it was clear that many in the media had been given a different impression and that if the vote was taken then, a ‘healthy majority would vote in favour’. To a degree I think we are all susceptible to messages we want to hear but it has been a feature of this debacle that executives from the national bodies have given clear guidance to the media that ‘Newco’ would be voted into the SPL, as it was, or now into the First Division.
On more than one occasion I’ve heard “You might have heard different, but Neil Doncaster told me….”
There is no shortcut for legwork and attention to detail. On this subject, credit to STV, who present informed information on how Friday’s vote is likely to pan out, with references. Of the 30 clubs in the SFL, the report 14 have declared an intention to vote against plans to plant Sevco into the First Division, one will abstain and one has (incorrectly) been told they are ineligible to vote. Another 14 are yet to declare.
It seems likely that the SFL vote will go the way of the SPL vote. There is a desire to retain the sporting element to our game among clubs, if not among administrators.
In a statement yesterday Clyde FC nailed several of the myths behind threats made to SFL clubs:
“We have obtained a copy of the Settlement Agreement signed up to by the SPL and the SFL in April 1998 – it is clear that the agreement is not ambiguous in this regard and there is no scope for the SPL to fail to meet the obligations to the SFL except by deliberately breaching the agreement… We have concluded that it defies credibility that the SPL clubs would instruct the SPL to deliberately breach a legal agreement.
“The matter is made worse because of the extent of uncertainty which hangs over Sevco. There is no need to prepare an exhaustive list of the issues as they are well publicised, however the extent of outstanding sanctions that may or may not be levied against a club which has yet to obtain SFA membership, together with the increasing number of possible commercial and legal challenges to the transactions to date simply presents a significant risk to the ability of the club to fulfil its fixtures in any league. Given that some of these matters are in the hands of the governing bodies it seems inexplicable that they are left hanging.”
In short, the Scottish Football League has a binding contract with the SLP which they are entitled to enforce. Clyde also refer on the matter we have discussed here for many weeks, Sevco are trying to buy a SFA membership which has significant outstanding disciplinary issues against it which could see the membership suspended. Instead of providing clarity, the SPL and SFA have refused to set deadlines of proceed with hearings.
We can speculate if SFA chief exec, Stewart Regan, will inform SFL clubs in person on Friday of plans to disband judicial oversight from our game instead of asking Lord Carloway’s panel to reconvene.
Despite the valiant efforts of many football fans and clubs, our game has been ruined by years of destructive, self-serving, leadership.
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Interesting too that the SPL have decided to apply the rules with regards to witholding the prize money. And the other rules…..?
Good Morning Vmhan and all.
I did not see you early here yesterday and thought – the day shift starts later again. As Aristotle said: be ready, you never know when Vmhan turns the internet moving on.
That orange walk is interesting thing. I can’t imagine it but guess you see it like we Poles saw Raussian march along Warsaw streets on the day when we played against the at the Euro. Their slogans, flags, banners , including those with Stalin and USSR and communism symbols.
RTC latest
MWD
Good morning fellow Celts sun splitting the rocks in North Hampshire….not a cloud in the sky:)
Clyde FC are making a lot of sense. Fair play to them!
Goan the Bully Wee
HH
Mr Z
WARNING!!! for Mr Z -This what an Orange March looks like.
MWD
sad news re Joe McBride..
RIP.
MWD
Would you care to print the words of the first tune on that clip, “No Pope of Rome” for MR Z ?
I tried to but couldn’t do it !!!
RIP Joe…
MWD
Thanks. Looks like it’s not similar to Pulaski Day in America or Spanish team last parade in Madrid.
catching up with T in the Park..
step on’ by Happy Mondays.
I think that Bez has modelled himelf on Frankie Bhoy…
the ghirls in the yellow/ black hooped top is on the bhoy Jinkys shoulders…
Zbyszek
morning my friend. The weather in Scotland reminded me of Poland… o))
hope your summer is better than this wash out…
spoke to oldtim last night..
Yet one dissenting chairman said: “They’re offering us a 16-team SPL but the SPL clubs haven’t even been asked whether they would agree to it.
“Yet we’re supposed to vote Rangers into the First Division on the strength of this and then trust them to keep their promise.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/rangers/9393496/Rangers-in-crisis-SFL-vote-may-be-postponed-unless-ambiguous-wording-of-resolution-is-changed.html
My disgust at these swindlers lacks vocabulary to express how odious they are.
Blantyretim
I remember that weather :-) That was extraordinary.
For fourteen days temperatures here were above 30 C (one day I saw 36C). Few very short storms in the nights. Today is first day when temperature dropped to “only” 24C. How good!
Please pass my greetings to oldtim67. If I’m not mistaken tomorrow is his birthday. Our humble and shy friend would probably keep the news to himself. In case you meet some from CQN, you better not brake the secret about oldtim’s birthday.
Zbyszek
The weather never spoiled my trip to Poland…
I meantion the birthday to him last night.
He is hoping to get into glasgow soon so we can meet up for a beer..
I will pass on your regards…
Thanks, BT.
“The best Celtic centre-forward I’ve ever seen play” – Jimmy McGrory on Joe McBride.
A true legend that oozed class whilst maintaining an incredible humility. The other Lions had such respect – almost a reverence towards him. He will be sadly, sadly missed.
Joe McBride, Legend – RIP
Hail! Hail!
DavieL
Off the Record ! as in, I don’t read the Daily Record because of its sh*t journalists on 12 July, 2012 at 07:14 said:
MWD
Would you care to print the words of the first tune on that clip, “No Pope of Rome” for MR Z ?
I tried to but couldn’t do it !!!
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Bzzzzzzzzzzz
Good morning CQNers
It seems the same Rangers supporters who’ve misappropriated the status of victimhood are using the same farcical tactic in Northern Ireland – the BBC have used a picture of a banner which states “end hatred of orange culture” to illustrate the story about the Parades Commision decision on the orange parade passsing through Ardoyne ……..it’s so wrong on so many aspects.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-18802232
Celtic Legend Joe Mc Bride
Rest in Peace
Ma Da spoke frequently and fondly about Joe McBride….
RIP Sir.
The Future….In Two Articles?
Stateside & Moss Side?
(Thanks to the New York Times, Alex Thompson & The Guardian for some honest MSM guidance on this one)
But before you read them, consider, just for a moment, the cheap seats of the SFA and the extent of the public posturing to retain these very same cheap seats…
Tiny Wee Cogs in a Bigger Beautiful Game they are…
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/07/10/in-manchester-uniteds-i-p-o-a-preference-for-u-s-rules/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jul/10/manchester-united-accounts-share-offer?newsfeed=true
Paul 67, I remember you questioning the logic and rationalism of the Glazer deal… Thoughts?
Within the context of the above of course…. And currant and contemporary Scottish culture?
Joe McBride
I had the privilage of playing 18 holes of golf in Ireland with Joe a few years ago..
chatting away I asked him about scoring goals..
Instinct he replied. no need to think about it, it came naturaly…
He also beat me at golf but thats no suprise…
Morning CQN!
Blantyretim if your still about did you get the DvDs? and were there ok to watch?
I’ve been on CQN sporadically so might have missed any post’s by you.Heading out soon
Rest In Peace Joe McBride, a great Celtic player and gentleman…
RIP Joe McBride.
MWD
Morning,all.
This link is from a jobsite,sentto me by a mate who really cannot believe the rates of pay on offer these days.
Check the requirements,then the hourly rate.
http://www.reed.co.uk/jobs/arabic-speaking-make-up-artists-urgently-required/21710267#/jobs/retail?parttime=True
UNBELIEVABLE,so I’m off to sook up to my boss…….
Mick
I did thanks mate, posted on here thanking you, meantioned how bad ref was during orcs game.
Mini BT said thanks too
HailHail
RIP Joe.
Went to the same church as him when I lived on Bishopbriggs. Sad, sad news
H x 2
RIP JOE MCBRIDE
blantyretim
As long as you received them. I did have the Communities Cup game taped the “ref” there was equally bad,binned it though.
If your patient give me time and I’ll dig out some classic Celtic games and get them over to you,
Later!
MWD I have just had my dinner. Mrs Tauranga saw her first walk through my home town and it was a pathetic display of the low end of Scottish society. I was pleased to see just how bad it is for the order. Fat ugly sweaty uncouth unshaved hairy beasts , and that was just the wummin. The language used by parents and children both ways was as bad as I have ever heard and while I was laughing my kiwi wife was shocked by it all. I am also happy to say that the vast majority of the people around me , locals, had an equally bad taste when viewing the last bastion of orangeness. They are about as busted a flush as there ex football team. No doubt sevco scotland 5088 will play in orange and have nick griffith as a life member.
Getting a bit nervous about tomorrow after reading about the mega bribes. My faith is with the people of Scotland , most of them , but the doomers have me thinking there is a chance that evil might triumph. We will know tomorrow.
Looking forward to a hun free start to the season
Lions departed
Ronnie Simpson
Jimmy Johnstone
Bobby Murdoch
Willie o’Neil
John Cushley
Joe McBride
RIP Mr McBride :-(
Setting free the bears@ 0.26am
Re Joe McBride.
I watched Joe play with Motherwell as I did with Willie Wallace at Hearts. I thought of Joe as a useful addition to our great developing team under Jock but I never in my wildest dreams believed that it would literally turn into the goal- machine that he became.
As you correctly point out it was a devastating blow to lose him around Christmas in our run to win every competition on the way to Lisbon.
In my opinion also Joe McBride was the finest out and out striker that I have ever seen wear the green and white hoops and that includes Kenny and Henrik.
God bless him.
RIP Joe. Another Lion sleeps tonight.
As garcia lorca says, the finest out & out striker I have ever seen
I just read that Joe McBride has gone to his eternal rest.
He came to Celtic Park unheralded really from Motherwell and became imo the greatest centre forward to grace the Hoops in my time. He transformed the Lions because you just knew that he would score every time he came on to the pitch.
Joe, thank you for what you gave to the Celtic. RIP.
My condolences to his family and friends.
Greetings Paul67,
Wonderful news! In 2164 the plasmaball traverse ’12th July’ is stricken from annual traverse books and replaced with ‘1888th July’
To Infinity! & Backwards
rotit j
Joe McBride RIP