I received updates direct from last week’s Scottish Football League meeting shortly after it concluded. My information was that Neil Doncaster in particular was given a torrid time and that the mood among clubs was firmly against agreeing to place Sevco into the First Division.
Within a couple of hours it was clear that many in the media had been given a different impression and that if the vote was taken then, a ‘healthy majority would vote in favour’. To a degree I think we are all susceptible to messages we want to hear but it has been a feature of this debacle that executives from the national bodies have given clear guidance to the media that ‘Newco’ would be voted into the SPL, as it was, or now into the First Division.
On more than one occasion I’ve heard “You might have heard different, but Neil Doncaster told me….”
There is no shortcut for legwork and attention to detail. On this subject, credit to STV, who present informed information on how Friday’s vote is likely to pan out, with references. Of the 30 clubs in the SFL, the report 14 have declared an intention to vote against plans to plant Sevco into the First Division, one will abstain and one has (incorrectly) been told they are ineligible to vote. Another 14 are yet to declare.
It seems likely that the SFL vote will go the way of the SPL vote. There is a desire to retain the sporting element to our game among clubs, if not among administrators.
In a statement yesterday Clyde FC nailed several of the myths behind threats made to SFL clubs:
“We have obtained a copy of the Settlement Agreement signed up to by the SPL and the SFL in April 1998 – it is clear that the agreement is not ambiguous in this regard and there is no scope for the SPL to fail to meet the obligations to the SFL except by deliberately breaching the agreement… We have concluded that it defies credibility that the SPL clubs would instruct the SPL to deliberately breach a legal agreement.
“The matter is made worse because of the extent of uncertainty which hangs over Sevco. There is no need to prepare an exhaustive list of the issues as they are well publicised, however the extent of outstanding sanctions that may or may not be levied against a club which has yet to obtain SFA membership, together with the increasing number of possible commercial and legal challenges to the transactions to date simply presents a significant risk to the ability of the club to fulfil its fixtures in any league. Given that some of these matters are in the hands of the governing bodies it seems inexplicable that they are left hanging.”
In short, the Scottish Football League has a binding contract with the SLP which they are entitled to enforce. Clyde also refer on the matter we have discussed here for many weeks, Sevco are trying to buy a SFA membership which has significant outstanding disciplinary issues against it which could see the membership suspended. Instead of providing clarity, the SPL and SFA have refused to set deadlines of proceed with hearings.
We can speculate if SFA chief exec, Stewart Regan, will inform SFL clubs in person on Friday of plans to disband judicial oversight from our game instead of asking Lord Carloway’s panel to reconvene.
Despite the valiant efforts of many football fans and clubs, our game has been ruined by years of destructive, self-serving, leadership.
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Moonbeams WD. Kano 1000 \o/ Supporting Neil Lennon 100%. Champions. C’mon Wee Oscar. on 11 July, 2012 at 21:50 said:
Guys
If your going to bake your Camembert make sure you buy it in a stapled box rather than a glued one.
Small lesson learned.
Good call, fella!
Croque or croaked ?
Former miniscule poster. Longtime lurker who has been impressed by the quality of the debate and analysis on this blog and ,it has to be said, others. Hhowever, without seeking to be critical or prvocative there must surely come a time when identification of flaunting of rules, gerrymandering, preferment, etc.,etc. needs to progress to an action plan to address these issues otherwise we are in danger of being bogged down in analysis paralysis. For me, and I am happy to be corrected, there are two issues: (i) the likelihood that a substantial amount of the funding of the bribes being offered relies on plundering the Celtic generated revenues, and here I am thinking of gate money, and; (ii) in round terms, the gerrymandering, corruption and disregard of the rules.
With regard to (i) I have seen some posts on a membership scheme but I am uncertain how this would work in practice. As I currently understand it a significant membership fee would be chargde which would entitle the member to amongst other things to attendance at celtic home games for a nomial sum. My concern here is whether it would be defendable if challenged as a scheme to frustrate some form of gate sharing. I respect of (ii) I am wondering if a legal challenge is possible. I beleve the club taking such action would be a know know, but what about supporters? For my part – living in the South of England and conscious of providing very little to the financia wellbeing of my club, other than the occasional game and subscription to Celtic TV – I would be prepared to make a significant contribution to a legal fund to defend our rights, the integrity of the game and the upholding of the rules. From me viewing of this blog there are many people, perhaps Paul himself, who could organise such a fund and perhaps gain the cooperation of supporters groups outside Celtic.
Anyway, some ramblings, which I hope you get the gist of, to be to be torn apart or dismissed – I am not sensitive.
Meanwhile can someone post the link for wee Oscar appeal. Thanks
gordy
Enjoy!!!
Plain bread…….(oooootsider)
Lightly toasted (both sides)…
……………then pop on mature cheddar, add light dusting of pepper, some cut tommies and a wee drizzle of tabasco…….
…et voila
Poor man’s pizza.
barbsbhoy2
Noticed you didn’t mention cheese!! mmm
Terry’s defence of “only banter” sounds familiar. Seem to remember tha Huns using that often.
Now for my fix of Rory.
Messinwiththekidcsc
FAO Horsey men, Hamilton is Abandoned on Friday night due to a wee bit of rain.
Honestly can’t remember a warm dry day/night at the races for about 10 years. KTF
know knoiw = no no, other mistypes down to fat fingers and absence of secretary!
Galtee ??
Evening bhoys, hope we are all well
Been busy busy busy sorting raffle etc for wee Oscar n hols so…
HH
Can I Have Raspberry On That on 11 July, 2012 at 21:49 said:
lennon’s passion on 11 July, 2012 at 21:39 said:
Can I Have Raspberry On That on 11 July, 2012 at 21:14 said:
You get called a hun yesterday off a no-mark today your his mate. Hope I’m never needing you as a back up any time soon.
Think you will find he didn’t call me a hun. There is no need call me out for being a human being.
The only person who has ever made the wrong assumption about my persuasion was your good self just before Christmas.
HH
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Ok must admit I’ve never even noticed your name before until yesterday.
GUINNESS, GALTEE AND TAYTO :-))
barbsbhoy
If you are on twitter you may have been following the story of @Wee_Oscar as he has been fighting his battle against Neuroblastoma, a rare form of leukemia that affects young children. @Wee_Oscar has been taken to the hearts of many Celtic & Republic of Ireland supporters on twitter this last few months.
I love this tweet http://t.co/L6JFoWi1 sent from his hospital room on the day of the Republics first game at the Euros.
Message from Wee Oscar
Hello everyone, my name is Oscar! I’m 3 years old, and I’m fighting neuroblasto- ma, a very aggressive cancer that affects babies and little kids like me.
I need special treatment abroad that will give me the best chance of life and beating the cancer. It will cost me as much as £250,000!
Please can you help me?
Message from the Neauroblastoma Alliance UK
Brave Oscar has been fighting neuroblastoma since shortly after his 3rd birthday. Unfortunately it appears that his best chance of beating this frighteningly aggressive cancer lies in either America or Germany. Oscar’s potentially life-saving treatment could cost as much as £250,000—which is why he needs your help. Please make a donation or hold an event for Oscar—call Nikki on 020 8202 9065
to chat about fundraising. Please give Oscar a chance! For more information about Oscar and to donate please visit:
http://www.justgiving.com/OscarAppeal Text KNXY99 and your amount £3, £4, £5 or £10 to 70070
Wee Oscar’s appeal page http://www.justgiving.com/OscarAppeal
You can also get regular news updates on Wee Oscar by following his blog here http://oscarknox.blogspot.co.uk/search?updated-max=2012-05-20T23:04:00%2B01:00&max-results=3&m=1
Please, please make a small donation if you can and help give Wee Oscar the best possible chance of life.
Bundoran Bhoy – RAISING AWARENESS OF NEUROBLASTOMA (GOD BLESS WEE
How much the tickets big pal??
Moonbeams WD. Kano 1000 \o/ Supporting Neil Lennon 100%. Champions. C’mon Wee Oscar. on 11 July, 2012 at 21:59 said:
That tweeted pic is my pic on twitter, wee mhans a HERO!!!
HH buddy
Moonbeams WD,
aye, funny how you never see them in the same room at the same time…
Cheese on toast dully consumed, continuing with the red wine. Of to Eire for few days tomorrow. Any CQN;ers can tell me what the weather will be like on the East coast?
Paddy Gallagher on 11 July, 2012 at 22:01 said:
Raffle in my work mate, got my work to put up a laptop n bottle of whisky. Needed a 2nd prize so today i walked into a beauty n hair place round the corner from my work n used the old Irish charm to get the girls in it to donate a beauty package to raffle so… (hope I win it as i bloody need it lol)
HH
The Comfortable Collective on 11 July, 2012 at 21:50 said:
LOL
Bundoran Bhoy – RAISING AWARENESS OF NEUROBLASTOMA (GOD BLESS WEE OSCAR) on 11 July, 2012 at 22:03 said:
Paddy Gallagher on 11 July, 2012 at 22:01 said:
Raffle in my work mate, got my work to put up a laptop n bottle of whisky. Needed a 2nd prize so today i walked into a beauty n hair place round the corner from my work n used the old Irish charm to get the girls in it to donate a beauty package to raffle so… (hope I win it as i bloody need it lol)
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Sorry, didn’t recoignise you there :-))
Fresh figs, picked from the tree, wraped in streaky bacon, roasted in the oven, washed down with a fine Ribera del Duero, eat hot or cold, either is delish.
Off to bed, airport early doors.
Take care and god bless
HH
KTF
Oh, that was lovely
lennon’s passion on 11 July, 2012 at 21:58 said:
Was and still am Pearcesdad
THE EXILED TIM on 11 July, 2012 at 22:07 said:
Goodnight big man..
Goodnight Paddy G.
HH
http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/article/165/7889927/scottish-game-prepares-for-change?
Sold well and truly down the river.
Are we going to allow a handful of self interested individuals get their way?
Silence is tacit consent, Celtic.
barbsbhoy2 on 11 July, 2012 at 21:53 said:
Perhaps a membership scheme could be challenged, but that’s not necessarily a bad thing. Especially if it takes a year or two to reach an outcome. :)))
Then once they reach their outcome we tell them we’re not paying them a penny. What they going to do? Chuck us out? Ha Ha. :))))
Bookies
Can I Have Raspberry On That on 11 July, 2012 at 22:07 said:
lennon’s passion on 11 July, 2012 at 21:58 said:
Was and still am Pearcesdad
share on F’book or Twitter
Stuart pearce
lennon’s passion on 11 July, 2012 at 22:14 said:
Don’t disrespect my son.
hector a…,
that mob are wee dawells choice of exposee tool, if you remember they were first to print the death threats the honourable Mr Craven never recieved.
This is put out so the msm can claim a source
Two words for Regan:
Transparency
Integrity
If you can’t act with both, pack your bags, ship out and don’t come back. You will never be forgotten or forgiven otherwise.
What will your legacy be…..
Sure its been quoted before but BBC says;
Last year, SPL clubs considered and eventually rejected plans to reduce the amount of clubs in top league to 10, with chairman Ralph Topping and chief executive Neil Doncaster claiming a 16-team division was not financially viable.
Regan was also an advocate of a 10-team SPL.
???
F.I.F.A. and S.F.A.
Peas in a pod.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18804464
N.B.Commercial bribery was not a criminal offence in Switzerland at the time.
Now that explains a lot.
THE EXILED TIM on 11 July, 2012 at 22:07 said:
Fresh figs, picked from the tree, wraped in streaky bacon, roasted in the oven, washed down with a fine Ribera del Duero, eat hot or cold, either is delish.
Boom! That beats all the toasted/roasted cheese recipes hands down.
But then again, as you point out, Spanish cheese is rubbish…
Can I Have Raspberry On That on 11 July, 2012 at 22:16 said:
lennon’s passion on 11 July, 2012 at 22:14 said:
Don’t disrespect my son.
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Was a joke don’t know you or your son. Sorry if I’ve upset you but haven’t got a clue what your going on about. Will leave it at that.
Hector Avocado. Silence is tacit consent. on 11 July, 2012 at 22:11
Silence is golden.
Given that they have disintegrated and fallen to dust and making a total arse of salvaging the shadow of a corrupt club, then what needs be said?
The Mona Lisa smile on the faces of every Celtic fan from here to Timbuktu says it all really.
Nothing to be gained by commenting on anything at the moment. There’s a lot more to play out before that moment arrives. :)
Sit back and enjoy the ride. Meantime as our host said: They have NOTHING. NOTHING!!!!
:))))))))))
No season ticket holders – tick
No sponsor deals to honour- tick
No players registered to play anywhere – tick
Not even a home or away kit – tick
Season starts in a few weeks. The grandmasters of scottish football, in total desperation, are trying their best to flush Green and Whyte out by giving them a place in a league. They have realised (dooh!) that they have no intention of building a football team, especially one that even under admin and in the top tier, looses circa £1m per month
Regardless of their late efforts, and Friday’s vote, sevco won’t be playing football in any league this season. The SPL will start with 11 teams to mitigate against legal claims by Dundee, Dunfermline, Livingstone, Spartans et al.
Yada-yada.CSC