Earlier this month we discussed the English Football League, where Championship clubs are in particular danger. Unlike the SPFL there is little leadership from “the centre”. Clubs and the League hope to complete the season and only yesterday published a plan on what to do in the event that is not possible.
Completing the season will require investment in blanket testing which will cost hard-up clubs millions of pounds, players would need to be taken off furlough (where applicable) weeks before games are played, and there will be zero ticket money generated.
All this helps clubs, fans and everyone else feel better about the sporting integrity of their competitions, but it will only compound the financial crisis afflicting the sport if they undertake the process and, as is very possible, some or all clubs need to isolate due to positive tests. This could lead to a later curtailment of the league, with unnecessary illness (or worse) and cost.
The contrast with the SPFL is stark. The Scottish League took medical and legal advice and went on the front foot with a strong recommendation to clubs, which was overwhelmingly supported. These decisions are horrible and inevitably unfair on someone, but good leadership means you need to make yourself unpopular at times.
What happens with the English Premiership is largely immaterial to Scottish football. Our more immediate competitors occupy the leagues below. This is where Scottish clubs have lost most of their talent to. There will be opportunities for Scottish clubs as a consequence of how the two leagues reacted to the crisis. Keep your eye on what happens here.
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Bada
Being inquisitive…..I looked him up played 10 games, looked at the photo and naw doesn’t ring a bell. Probably see him on an orange walk when the muppets are allowed to pollute the streets😈
So Mr Cummings was worried about his eyesight and therefore his fitness to drive. Fair enough, who could argue with that?
Let’s just check the Highway Code:
2. Fitness to drive (90 to 94)
90
Make sure that you are fit to drive. You MUST report to the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) any health condition likely to affect your driving.
Law RTA 1988 sect 94
92
Vision. You MUST be able to read a vehicle number plate, in good daylight, from a distance of 20 metres (or 20.5 metres where the old style number plate is used). If you need to wear glasses (or contact lenses) to do this, you MUST wear them at all times while driving. The police have the power to require a driver to undertake an eyesight test.
Laws RTA 1988 sect 96 & MV(DL)R reg 40 & sch 8
So you DO report to the DVLA any health condition likely to affect your driving.
You check that you can read a number plate in good daylight from a distance of 20 metres.
You DON’T – stick your wife and child in the car and do a round trip of 60 miles to check if your eyes are OK!!!
pest
Dirk Kuyt will be Feyenoord head coach after next season.
He will be assisted by Alfons Groenendijk and Henrik Larsson. (De Telegraaf chief Valentijn Driessen)
Saint Stivs
Lennybhoy and Friesdorfer have been in touch with me to say you were asking after me. Cheers.
All good across An Clutha.
Dalmuir has been very Green and White this past week. 9 in a row and 53 years since the greatest ever sporting achievement by a Scottish team. The photo you posted was only one of many taken in Dalmuir last Monday. In honour of 9 in a row and young Anton Rogan White rip. Local Celtic fanatic taken too early by illness. God bless all on CQN.
Here we go to 10 in a row. 🍀💚
Good Mhan DD. nice to see you posting.
A wonderful tribute to a true champion of our people and our community.
http://www.theirishvoice.com/uncategorised/helen-will-always-be-in-our-hearts/
Nice to see you back DD – all the best
Hamiltontim, a lovely tribute to Helen By Jeanette Findlay. Kevin McKenna. posted it on Facebook earlier tonight.
Helen talking to that senior police officer and His response to her was atrocious but it would have made her more determined to stand firm against the anti-Catholic marchers.
I hope you and the family are keeping well.
WDH , I hope you get better soon and out of hospital.
Ron Bacardi , my condolences on the loss of your uncle.
Delaney’s , great to hear from you. You look after yourself my old chum.
David66,
aye if its the wee drap it is the 12th
DELANEYS DUNKY on 25TH MAY 2020 11:03 PM
Saint Stivs
highlight of my week gary bhoy.
i like you checked in.
CorkCelt, JinkyRedStar and Dallas.
Thank you for the welcome home. Great to post on the evening anniversary of our greatest ever triumph.
Friesdorfer and Lennybhoy.
Thanks for prompting me.
Saint Stivs
You too 😊👍🍀💚
DD
Great to have you back.
Now where is SOT.
HAMILTONTIM on 25TH MAY 2020 11:07 PM
A wonderful tribute to a true champion of our people and our community.
http://www.theirishvoice.com/uncategorised/helen-will-always-be-in-our-hearts/
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open myself up here.
i find it very hard to be catholic, in our growing up in the faith ,
however, reading that ,
filling up some.
OMG
The intrusive adverts on here are getting worse.
TimHorton
Thank you. Has SOT stopped posting on here?
The guy with the best taste in music on here.
David66
Hope you are well my friend. Remember us celebrating the first 9 in a row as weans at Corpus Christi Knightswood. Think we will get 10 this time bro. 👍🍀💚
DELANEYS DUNKY on 25TH MAY 2020 11:55 PM
John crightons brother is maybe the most resiliant bhoy in the world
big fish,
paul
READY FOR IT. HISTORY
KICK OFF.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EY3X6ljXYAA7Am9?format=jpg&name=medium
Hello again all you young rebels.
From a beautiful opened up Melbourne.
Can’t wait for tonights first training session back at our local club.
The weemhan and his mates taking all the new recruits under 8’s
and they’ve got their full Hoops kits ready to wear while showing
them the moves.
How could any young dude looking at these big 6 ft 16 year olds
with a ball not take a wee leaning towards Celtic?
TERRYMAC
Just listened to that lovely song, what a way to waken up, had a bit
of eye moistening going on.
Great stuff.
H.H . Mick
ANOTHER CESAR TRIBUTE.
TELL YOU WHAT.
SUTTON IS US
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EY3AujZXYAAe-Xd?format=jpg&name=large
CELTIC MAC on 25TH MAY 2020 1:14 PM
An Tearmann
There are a few on here more critical of the Celtic Board than me but not many. Thing is it is usually about things which we have control over. Providing data to, PoliceScotland, away ticket allocations, or changing the footprint around Celtic Park to accommodate an away support whilst increasing the risk to our own fans, those kind of things. Has confidentiality led to a situation where Resolution 12 was a dead end before it even got proposed, or tabled back in 2013? The 5WA was the product of the SPL, whatever role we played or didn’t play, we were not one of the 5.
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If you were to look back over the years, when folk aired suspicions that Celtic had signed or were involved in the 5 Way Agreement I made the same point as you that the SPL were the signatories to the 5 Way so no evidence of Celtic’s involvement. No evidence does not mean they were not involved, it just meant there was no evidence of involvement.
However the SPL acted on the behalf of all the SPL clubs in 2012 ALL of them.
It is the way the SPL do their business to let the clubs do theirs ie pull all relevant considerations together, seek views consider solutions, draft them out and in this case put that draft to the SPL Board who were elected by ALL the clubs to do what the clubs couldn’t, which was oversee the administration of SPL business.
So when the final draft is ready it goes to the SPL Board Members to approve on behalf of all clubs.
When evidence turns up that the 5 way final draft was sent to SPL Board member including Celtic Director Eric Riley as well as Peter Lawwell for acceptance, which is given by default if no comment or objections received by next day then the SPL are signing the 5 Way on behalf of Celtic as well as the other member clubs of the SPL.
It was on this basis that I had to change from the “not a party to” point of view, which I had taken, to a new evidenced one.
I didn’t like it but I could not pretend that Celtic had no involvement in the 5 Way Agreement because I didn’t like the consequences of knowing they had, even if that involvement meant not opening the attachment which is stretching plausibility beyond breaking point.
What that means is a different story and Celtic can defend their involvement, but they cannot stand in front of the next AGM and say they never had any or a wee boy did it and ran away.
And another great song comes on from BRTH, i’ll need
to get the paper tissues out shortly.
As usual the Celtic family are looking after their own, LENNYBHOY
has been in touch with WDH.
Hopefully things will improve for him now.
Great stuff again.
H.H . Mick
Sorry for all the late replies ghuys, always catching up here in Oz.
RON BACARDI
So sorry to read of your loss.
Condolences.
H.H . Mick
I read the book “Brexit All Out War by Tim Shipman , but have still a quarter to go because the more I read the angrier I got at Cummings and had to put it down – lots.
I view him and Johnson as malevolent.
When part of the Brexit campaign is to rubbish expert evidence, science if you will, in order to win Brexit and take back control and up turns CoVid 19, where Cummings and Johnson have to depend on expert evidence/science in order to try to take back control they never ever had AND caught the virus, don’t tell me Karma doesn’t have a sense of humor and detests malevolence.
They will be gone by Christmas if not sooner. Control has been taken from them and their media mogul backers by reality.
They just don’t get it yet.
Saint Stivs
Have we ever had a better front two strikers than Larsson and Sutton?
I don’t think so.
CELTIC MAC on 25TH MAY 2020 1:56 PM
auldheid/chairbhoy
July 26 2012 – SPL proposes and recommends 5WA
July 27 2012 – Relevant members have until 10.00 am to respond or be counted in favour
July 29 2012 – Brechin City versus Rangers FC (Scottish Challenge Cup)
That’s what’s it’s all about….
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Not quite all but a valid point.
On 29 July The Rangers FC Ltd had to play Brechin as a conditional member of the SFA because they couldn’t play without some form of SFA Membership, so SFA made one up.
The transfer of full SFA Membership did not happen until 3 August so they had a bit more time because they made it by creating a new kind of SFA Membership to allow that game.
The late Paul McConville said such a membership was “ultra vires” but observing the rules was the last thing they wanted.
I realise it’s late now and most of you ghuys/ghals are bedded down
So just a wee shout out for you wakening up.
ANYBODY HEARD FROM
SOUTH OF TUNIS. ???
THE EXILED TIM.???
And of course my aul mhate
BIGYINMILAN.???
Who seems to have disappeared off the planet.
H.H . Mick
DD
Good to see you back, and no, but would have loved
to see Mcbride and Wallace given a run, think maybe they
would have changed my thoughts lol.
H.H . Mick
CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION on 25TH MAY 2020 11:12 AM
Auldheid,
I can only conclude they used the information we provided, to assist the SFA in developing their strategy against us and that the company secretary was not as he claimed, playing devils advocate but actively working against us to frustrate, in the hope we would give up.
It sure looks like it now. i know you were rightly suspicious at the time but I wanted more certainty. Must have been the same pain in the butt to you as you were to me back then. Glad to see you post we were wondering if all ok with you
As company secretary he was apparently misleading us as shareholders every time he raised the issue of provenance especially when we reminded him on many occasions that provenance was not an issue for the CFCB who had the power to investigate all sources of information.
Oh yes. What a pain that was. BRTH explained over weekend what provenance was and why it stopped us using material but your point above is a telling one. Talk about resistance
The most telling sign was when he became aggressive with me, when I raised the issue of misinformation we had received at previous meetings, when I asked if we could rely on anything we had been told. This was a guy who told us we were all on the same side.
Remember I stormed out when he defended his boss? :) :)
And, in our final meeting with him and PL, when asked by PL what else can we do? I told him follow through with the resolution and ask the CFCB to investigate. PL balked, and the company secretary came in with his usual drivel about provenance and how “HE” needed to be convinced of the provenance. Note, not the SFA and not UEFA but the company secretary.
As I recall he said we would not like it if they were going through our dustbin or words similar. I thought aye but they would unlike us.
M&M
Thanks sir. Used to think it was McClair and Johnston, but the latter spoiled that. I would welcome Choccy back as Damien Duff’s replacement on the coaching staff.
Hope all good with you and your Celtic family down under. 👍🍀💚
CANAMALAR/AULDHEID
Can’t really put in words the admiration i and many others
have for you ghuys and the work you and the others have
put in to bring this scandal to justice.
I can only offer my thanks and support for your future endeavours.
Respect.
H.H . Mick
Canalamar Cont
It was only the company secretary who liased with the SFA on all res12 business. It was the company secretary who was the only party to the meetings who failed to complete agreed actions. And it was the company secretary who failed to meet agreed time constraints.
To be fair some of the delay was on our side as but he certainly was in no rush, especially right after charges of non compliance were made and I wanted answers, which we never got.
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So while the discussion regarding a legal challenge against the SFA is all well and good, we need to remember the Celtic company secretary and the executive will be supporting the SFA as they have against Res 12 and this is where our main problem will be. They will be actively working to silence any debate again as they successfully done against the resolution.
Well it looks as if the media have been nobbled for a start although I have challenged a couple on their reporting of the SFA view. (they are part of the problem too)
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I suggest BRTHs initial idea of getting the opinion of Queens Council to evaluate is any such course of action feasible and as we were warned, that is a very costly exercise.
As he said, it may be that a favorable queens council opinion is enough to tip the SFA and all football executives opinions on the importance of small shareholders, when we might gain the power to upset their gravy train. However, I suspect to be assured of change the opinion would have to be tested in court since executives are expert as we have seen, in duplicity therefore most likely portray all the signs of change while nothing actually changes.
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I’m beginning to think its time we stopped being professional. E mail me.
So if we look at it using his words then maybe PL was not the final decision maker, maybe it was MN the company secretary ?
The idea of adjournment came from him so either he was told its your idea make sure it goes nowhere or he decided that on his own.
DD
Our first CSC day back will be a belter down in Mornington.
Paddy planning it already lol.
Agree with you about Choccy, very underrated player and he
has a wealth of experience to pass on to our young prospects.
H.H . Mick
MM
He had a good record with Man Utd youths as coach. Got a job with SFA and bailed out a few years back. He is an intelligent, strong willed individual. Whether he could work under Neil Lennon and John Kennedy is another matter. Will be interesting who replaces Damien as coach.
DD
Yes, strong willed, what we need, and if he can work with the epitomy
of strong will, Lenny, then our club will reap the benefit.
Great talking, must go now, lines to mark for restrictions etc.
Say woof to the foxes for me.
Wait ?????
H.H . Mick
MM
Great chatting again sir. The fact that Brian McClair stated recently that his favourite bands are Radiohead, The Waterboys and The Pogues is maybe clouding my judgement. Three of my favourite groups too 😊👍🍀💚
HAMILTONTIM on 25TH MAY 2020 11:07 PM
A wonderful tribute to a true champion of our people and our community.
http://www.theirishvoice.com/uncategorised/helen-will-always-be-in-our-hearts/
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It is indeed a lovely tribute from Jeanette Findlay.
The’dam Bhoys’ collection reminded me…I’ve still not forgiven you for the orange bibs that day.
Take care mhate .hh
God Bless Every CQNer.
Money is not the root of all evil.
Never let that go unchallenged.
Quite Frankly, Mr Shankly,… it is the Love of Money that is the root of all evil.
Looks like we are going back to the globalcoolingwarming nonsense….
Its coming..
Money is evil afterall.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2006/dec/11/uk.greenpolitics
This is incoming.
Satan is getting desperate stopping people going to places of Worship at their needest Times.
He knows his Time is short. He is the Master of this World.
Praise Yesuah. Haste ye back.
Good morning CQN from a sunny but damp underfoot Garngad
It was good to see you posting DD and knowing you are well. Hail Hail
Ron Bacardi – sorry for your loss
D. :)