As reported in The Herald yesterday, the judiciary, police and Crown Office Prosecution Service (COPS) colluded in an “unlawful” manner against individuals who were simultaneously subject of a campaign by prominent Rangers supporters over control of the club’s assets before and after liquidation.
Sheriff Lindsay Wood granted police 22 warrants in an investigation into the takeover of Rangers at a time when a high-profile campaign was underway against the same people to secure the assets of the club post-administration and liquidation by ‘real Rangers people’. The Herald also reported that Wood was a prominent Rangers fan who attended games, social events and displayed a photo of Ibrox in his office.
Accusations of collusion by police against groups of individuals are common, but it is rare to find the judiciary and prosecution services involved. It is rarer still that they go after white-collar professionals. If this is what they will do for their team against accountants and lawyers, what would they do to you?
No less an authority than sheriff principle for Glasgow and Strathkelvin concluded Wood “submitted a misleading report”. Senior investigating officer, Chief Inspector Jim Robertson, chanted a Rangers song during interviews. A judge ruled that Robertson gave evidence that was “patently untrue” and acted in an “intimidatory”, “threatening” and reprehensible” manner.
Sheriff Wood accepted his failings and announced he would retire in May this year. So far, compensation payments to victims have reached £40m. Remember, this is only what was published in The Herald yesterday. Fair play to them, if ever you wonder why we need a strong traditional media, this is it.
Let’s be clear, however, there is a lot more that has not come out. If you think Wood and Robertson were architects of this, you are wildly mistaken. Only the Scottish Government have the ability to look deeper, but there are some clear lines to follow up.
When this was all happening, individuals working on this put themselves at significant personal risk and have since wisely gone to ground. While I think that risk has passed, it is not my gamble to take. But I know for sure if the Scottish Government took a hard look at the COPS, their prosecution decisions and their unprecedented leaking of information to the press – by official email (which I’ve seen), they would find out what we all know but some prefer to ignore.
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Scullybhoy
Graeme Sinclair.
Good mhan Joe
https://www.thecelticwiki.com/sinclair-graeme/
Scullybhoy
Time to relax and sit down to dinner.
Good evening all from the International Bar.
Graeme Sinclair was easily identifiable on the pitch due to his Hugh Jarse
Joe
I am starving! I leave now, but here is one you won’t get.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bc/a5/53/bca55355dede1333a6fba006e0fc2f22.jpg
Clue: He held the record of having the shortest name of any Celtic player until Du Wei in the 2000’s.
Aye, the best wee corrupt county in the world.
Scullybhoy
Roy Kay
Coneybhoy at 2.05
Never mind the Fred Perry bag, get yereself a Fred Colon bag 🤪
CamusBhoy on 13th January 2023 5:22 pm
Scullybhoy
Roy Kay
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Good stuff!
Now I can go and get a feed.
UPTHEHOOPS
I’m sure the ‘wha’s like us?’ attitude to which you allude had nothing to do with the difficulty the then Bishop Tartaglia had in accessing statistics regarding sectarian attacks in Scotland.
He had complained that hundreds of Crown Office documents on sectarian crimes had been destroyed, preventing a fuller analysis of the issue.
“Since Catholics represent just 16% of Scotland’s population, the fact that they account for almost 60% of the victims of sectarian crime reflects poorly on modern Scotland and is an indicator of entrenched hostility on a worrying scale.”
AN TEARMANN @ 12:27 PM,
From last thread…
Few would suggest that you are not a freethinker that’s for sure
It wasn’t me that decided Big Pedro should return as Chairman, so the opening of a new chapter is down to our autocrat – what PL’s brief is we’ll find out soon enough
Can you imagine if that energy was used say in digging into the 21% of share capital stuck on fridges or in frames but neutered come agm vote As it defaults to board,if so,we would have a more dynamic share base.
Now there’s a smart suggestion, I know there has been an attempt to find small shareholders but I didn’t know there vote defaulted to the Board, of course it would though
It’s quite a substantial percentage and well worth the effort to persue these individuals.
Hail Hail
Just finished reading Walfrid by Dr Michael Connolly. A tremendous read that gives a clear insight into the poor Irish in Glasgow in the Brother’s time here. Leaving family at 15 years old to journey to Glasgow to find a new life must have been ordeal for him. How he must have recalled the horror of The Great Hunger and this called him to a life of working constantly for the poor and needy not only in Glasgow but where ever he lived out his religious vocation.
I had a particular interest in the book because my maternal grandmother was born at 335 Gallowgate in 1882 and was baptised in St Mary’s Abercrombie Street and went to the parish school. Perhaps she was one of the children fed at the Brother’s table for poor children. Unfortunately, I never heard her say anything about her early days. She eventually moved to Lennoxtown.
Bada at 2.16
Easyjet, christened Queasyjet by one of my brothers and mentioned at least ten times at every family bash.
Well, it tickles him 🤪
SfTBs @ 12:54 PM,
Yes, what I was suggesting as regards posts about BR is the opposite in fact.
As far as the pecking order and relationship between CEO and Manager goes, my belief was the hierarchy was unique between BR and PL
It was a head hunting consultancy under instructions from DD that recruited and negotiated BR’s position and terms
BR was head of football, which maybe a unique position in Celtic but Martin O’Neill seemed to have similar clout
So the CEO is the top executive and a member of the Board which gives PL seniority, yet BR seemed to report directly to DD for most things
A car crash waiting to happen? With the egos involved almost definitely.
Thanks for clarifying your position regarding PL as Chairman, I do remember you stating your opposition and as you say my point was to several posters and not individuals, which I certainly know you all are of course.
Hail Hail
HOT SMOKED @ 3:14 PM,
I don`t need bold print to enable `differentiating what are …( your)… words and which are Chairbhoy’s` :-)))
I’ve got my wee troll back
Wooohooo
You keeping yourself amused laffin’ bhoy…
chortle!
Chortle!!
CHORTLE!!!
HAIL HAIL
“About 10% of what’s out there at the moment is anywhere close to the truth. I don’t think people are being deliberately misleading. They get a bit of info from their cousin’s barber’s neighbour & it becomes Celtic are linked to a certain player.”
Ange Postecoglu
Fred- i know the rip off rules have been there for a while, but they can see a young single passenger ,a wee word saying BTW, your case doesn’t comply as a wee heads up for next time….i think staff might be on commission for it….HH
UPTHEHOOPS on 13TH JANUARY 2023 2:11 PM
“I wouldn’t hold out any hope of the Scottish Government looking too far under the bonnet.”
AT Which government would fit your bias? I cant think of any govt that would be fair
UTP”After all, they already have previous, because despite the collection of taxes in full and on time underpinning society, they wanted the old Rangers to be pardoned for what they had illegally taken.”
AT Minty jumped to Dos 1999,Andrew Thornhill qc advised settlememt 2006 or so,i hope this forlorn investigation that wont happen includes that time period.
UTP”Also, does anyone seriously believe they would want it exposed that there is institutionalised bias within the Scottish Police and law services? ”
AT No one doubts it,its what we are doing every day to stint it.limit it,curb it and educate it out.
UTP”After all, it doesn’t fit with their rather absurd notion that Scotland is a better nation than others simply because we are Scottish”
AT That is an absurd notion utp we both know that
So do we do nothing utp? Nae point,dont get in bout it.stick wi our own biases,well if you were to adhere to such notions youd be static and i dont think you are.
UTP
AT
BBC reporting scotland ignored the story.
I used to be such a sweet, sweet thing til they gotta hold of me…..
“GARYGILLESPIESHAMSTRING on 13TH JANUARY 2023 7:10 PM
BBC reporting scotland ignored the story.”
Maybe what is even worse than non-reporting is that it didn`t even register with me that they hadn`t !
Hope to see a few lads and lassies tomorrow in the Victoria Bar for a pre match refreshment commencing 11am. Prestonpans Bhoys and family are confirmed. Confirmed what, I’m not sure. Buffet provided by Greggs across the road.
Well done The Herald.
BRRB
Bus leaves 9:45, ETA around 11:15
BTW is that pub like the Oak and cash only 🙄
ERNIE LYNCH on 13TH JANUARY 2023 2:22 PM
AN TEARMANN on 13TH JANUARY 2023 12:46 PM
EL You are correct in suggesting that it isn’t a party political issue.
AT I know.Corruption is rife in all societies by those who have the power to harness it and farm it
EL The rot, the malaise, that is at the root of all that has gone on, lies somewhere deep in Scottish society itself.
AT – is the current banking corruption scandal ongoing since 2008,which in money terms makes mintys fiddle look like a dribble of piss,a peculiarly english fraud?
No its not,the rot,the malaise and the root is corruption.the same skanks harnessing/farming in mintys case the banking system.
EL-It is no wonder then that those in the nationalist camp are not best placed to confront or deal with what is wrong.
AT – get wee Jack McConnell in! Whats he called now? Lord Eunuch of daenuhhin:-) him and his ilk have ingratiated themselves into the same corrupt trough of corrupt self serving skanks they would investigate.
There will be no investigation of any depths into this sadly,it affects to many interests
This will be left for history and our modern day dariens will get theres and what we think and know will be evidenced then.
HH
why has there been an outbreak of journalism with respect to the thems lately ? Funny world.
The lengths these people will go to to protect what they see as an attack on their club. The judiciary, politicians, police and media.
Yet we’re led to believe the refereeing fraternity is above all of this.
Freemasonry. A stinking pit of malevolent corruption.
Good evening to the auld yins on here.
CONNAIRE12 on 13TH JANUARY 2023 5:31 PM
Just finished reading Walfrid by Dr Michael Connolly. A tremendous read that gives a clear insight into the poor Irish in Glasgow in the Brother’s time here. Leaving family at 15 years old to journey to Glasgow to find a new life must have been ordeal for him. How he must have recalled the horror of The Great Hunger and this called him to a life of working constantly for the poor and needy not only in Glasgow but where ever he lived out his religious vocation.
I had a particular interest in the book because my maternal grandmother was born at 335 Gallowgate in 1882 and was baptised in St Mary’s Abercrombie Street and went to the parish school. Perhaps she was one of the children fed at the Brother’s table for poor children.
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I remember you saying that about your granny being in 335 Gallowgate one time I posted one of the virtualmitchell pictures.
celtic the early years, walfrid and the bould bhoys, ian mccallums volumes, they paint a picture of deprivation and starvation (continuing in the new country) for our fore-bears that is just unimaginable, real institutioan bigotory and bias that kept them down for the longest time.
what does shine through for me, the teaching orders and the works of the church, without saint marys, or sacred heart or bishop eyre signing up for walfrids ideas, world changing for them all.
i despair often how little my nephews and the millenials actually know about any of it, i struggle to get them interested, celtic began with henrik for most of them, the great hunger a thing to sing about without any historical family context.
going sideways, i went to saint annes in london some years ago, the week before i was unwell, i had a hotel room in brick lane and wandered the old east end, spittal fields and all that.
walfrid wandered these streets and met and led and taught thousands of irish descendents in equal squalor to glasgow.
the man should be sainted.
Why do we need an enquiry to prove sectarian bias within the Scottish establishment?
We Catholic born baby boomers have suffered it all our lives.
We don’t need a commission to sugar coat their findings.
We don’t need the inevitable smoke and mirrors to cloak the report.
We don’t need the feigned shock from members of the government.
We have lived it. Daily.
Fortunately for many of us Celtic became a symbol of our rise above the bigotry.
The success of the Stein inspired side brought us inspiration.
The current standing is a source of pride.
To us, but not to the majority of the population.
Which is why they go to any lengths to put us back in our place.
Bhoyjoebelfast/Scullybhoy
Thanks BJB for reply,and will let you know in good time.
I have no plans to visit Donegal til late summer and i plan a few hours in your town before heading down road.it would be good to see yeez :-)
‘GG on 13TH JANUARY 2023 7:51 PM
We Catholic born baby boomers have suffered it all our lives.
The current standing is a source of pride.
To us, but not to the majority of the population.
Which is why they go to any lengths to put us back in our place.
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The Feinienie is out the bottle,
we overtook them, their hold on society is done apart from these shitey things of pretending a football club still exists.
AN TEARMANN on 13TH JANUARY 2023 7:38 PM
It goes back to the Reformation and how Presbyterian Scotland differentiated itself from those crypto Papists down south.
We are living with that culture today.
Chairbhoy
SFTB
Maybe you can help unwind how control works at Celtic.
My assumption is that somehow by a process I am unaware of a policy covering a particular aspect gets approved at Board level.
I am assuming that its not Brian Wilson or Chris McKay that does the policy donkey work and that work is done by an executive o executives the Chief of whom is also part of The Board .
A policy paper is produced by the executives who will also consult with relevant Board members with relevant experience and then the CEO presents the policy to The Board for approval. The Board members vote on it and it becomes policy.
Once passed it then becomes the CEO’s responsibility to see that agreed policy is executed and from time to time at regular Board meetings some assessment is made by Board members about how the policy is being implemented/executed.
If OK then its carry on executing. However if its not OK then either the executives get executed for failing to do their job or the policy is changed because it is the policy that experience is proving to be wrong and not the executives .
If it is on those lines then PLs area of influence is at the policy setting and amending level as part of his NON Executive Director responsibility.
So if The Board decided before PL arrived that there should be clearly defined split of responsibilities between Football Operations (The Manager) and The Contract Negotiating under the CEO then if the Manager and CEO are executing that policy and it is working as hoped, at what point can a Non Executive Chairman step in and say this policy is not working it needs to be changed.
If he were to nosy in at the executive level (in spite of his NON Executive role) when the policy is being followed The Manager and CEO would have every right to tell him to sling his hook.
However if he were asked for his advice as an Ex CEO familiar with contract negotiations then he would be adding value if that advice made sense to the Manager and CEO, was consistent with the already agreed policy at Board level and the Manger & CEO were happy enough with the advice offered to accept it.,
You see I’m guessing that this is how normal companies operate because it is good business practice for a company to adopt.
If I am right then the reason why PL’s return invokes real fear is that he will change a policy that is working well for one that had been proven not to have worked to the benefit of football operations, the core reason why Celtic exist.
What might help would be confirmation from Celtic that this is how they operate with policies set out as far as is commercially acceptable and the roles of each party individual set out, Job descriptions anyone?
How much less divided would the support be if properly informed about the way the business of Celtic is conducted and what the policies were that set that conduct.
The alternative to the above is that Celtic d not follow good business practice and do what DD tells them, in which case why have a Board?
PAULSTHROUGHBALL88 on 13TH JANUARY 2023 5:28 PM
UPTHEHOOPS
I’m sure the ‘wha’s like us?’ attitude to which you allude had nothing to do with the difficulty the then Bishop Tartaglia had in accessing statistics regarding sectarian attacks in Scotland.
He had complained that hundreds of Crown Office documents on sectarian crimes had been destroyed, preventing a fuller analysis of the issue.
“Since Catholics represent just 16% of Scotland’s population, the fact that they account for almost 60% of the victims of sectarian crime reflects poorly on modern Scotland and is an indicator of entrenched hostility on a worrying scale.”
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You will have links to what your posting when you quote from our late Archbishop Tartaglia.it would be good to show them.when? Where? Time?
I only ask as the last time such stats were used on these pages it turned out the poster was a racist skank who would not offer a refugee a hand.His aim was political,but he done nothing but step on land mines,in attempting to weaponize the faith for his end.ludicrous
Its above that.
Ps.i thought the variance was greater.
HU
ERNIE LYNCH on 13TH JANUARY 2023 8:08 PM
AN TEARMANN on 13TH JANUARY 2023 7:38 PM
It goes back to the Reformation and how Presbyterian Scotland differentiated itself from those crypto Papists down south.
We are living with that culture today.
Well if thats your point in time so be it.i disagree.
To me it is a lot more complex historically but fits your ideal.
HH
Auldheid
The short answer is :-
I dunno
However, if we were not told that PL’s “haver & dither” transfer policy had changed for the better under Ange & Michael, we were not told of any policy change.
We just assume that if the transfers are going well, and they are, then our policy must have changed because we did not like how they were going before.
The change may be real or it may be our perception that it is better. Unless we get hold of Policy Papers and Operational Planning papers, we will be none the wiser. I doubt that nay such papers, if they exist, have ever been publicised by any club anywhere in the world.
I suspect that, if I was charged with writing such a policy paper, it would just be short and pious and missing a lot of operational detail.
It would probably say:-
Buy the best players you can for as little as possible
Sell the players that want to go or you don’t want for as much as possible.
And if anyone asks how do you actually do this, you can only reply- just try!
AN TEARMANN:
Hopefully things will work out and a meeting can be arranged.Scullybhoy has shown an interest although,holidays may be an issue, we will wait and see how things turn out.