When surveyed by the BBC, of Scotland’s 42 senior (cough) clubs, only Partick Thistle, Queen of the South and Annan Athletic thought Strict Liability should be introduced to tackle crowd trouble. 39 clubs either had no view on the matter, or were convinced by the overwhelming weight of evidence that Strict Liability is a shorthand for doing something which has proven to be ineffective.
Partick chief executive, Gerry Britton, insisted that putting fans through the courts did not deter others from criminal activity. But then, in a classic of the intellectual genre, he said, “The Tartan Army are brilliant [at holding misbehaving fans to account]if anyone is up to anything, they’ll be the ones to get them out.”
So all we need is a sprinkling of “Tartan Army” types in kilts at each game to intercept a random no mark in the process of throwing a missile. With insight like this, I am sure it is only a matter of time before Gerry is running the SFA.
Self-policing by fans has a role to play, but don’t tell me to be against throwing missiles because a section of a stand could close, throwing missiles is wrong because it is the dangerous act of a seriously disturbed individual. Those who would not call out this behaviour for the latter reason will not do so for the former.
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Prestonpans Bhoys
Not just the Deady bears but the MSSM as well !
TLT
Indeed they should have beaten us by more last time but I remain confident such will not be the case this time.
David 66
I agree that it is ridiculous.
Come on the Kilby !! Jobo needs some help. What, with Scotland, Celtic and EK all getting his support, the poor chap will be puffed out :-)
JJ
EKFC v The Spartans 1-1 was my last on 69mins…Jobo must be pulling what’s left of his hair out ;-))
have to say watching the ROI game i would take James McClean in a heartbeat
we wouldnt need to worry about pedestrian football with him in the side
not that we will get the chance to sign him though
P67….strict liability…without 100% pat-down searches and 100% full body x-rays is a non legal starter and Sottish Parliament knows this….it’s being used to win votes and nothing else
Sottish is not a mis-spelling wen it comes to Parliament ;-))
When I posted that Dedryck and Ben widnae be in my side this is not about any pettiness on my part but that at this stage in the season are they fully committed now, do they dare risk serious injury, especially Dedryck, prior tae their move dawn sarf against an agricultural team with a friggin nutcase running around trying tae maim players with no fear of retribution.
Tontine…noo yer questioning thum as professionals ;-)) Hope yer weel ya maniac ;-))
H.H.
I’d take a gamble on Luc Holtz
Let me expand…how is a defence judged…by it’s record or by how long they’re gonna be here? Who would you play based on former or latter ;-))
H.H.
Championeeees! A 2- 1 win sealed the Lowland League title for EKFC in front of a packed* crowd in the K-park. Beating the reigning champions, The Spartans, made it all the sweeter.
Can concentrate on Sunday now;-)
* – around 400
Article 50 will not be revoked shocker…according to my government email
Congratulations to EKFC…welcome to the SPFL…I think ;-))
H.H.
Scottish football clubs have always skimped on everything regarding fans comfort or safety, falling back on the police. They need to introduce modern security systems, it would even create some jobs FFS.
Thelurkintim –
Each year, the winners of the Lowland League and Highland League meet in a 2 legged play off. The winner then faces the bottom team in Division 2 (currently Albion Rovers) again a 2 legged tie. For the 2nd leg the Div 2 club is always at home.
A tough ask for EKFC. 3 seasons ago they lost to Cowdenbearh on penalties. 2 seasons ago Edinburgh City defeated East Stirling and have done pretty well since. Last year the Div 2 bottom team survived but can’t remember who that was.
Off for some TV now…..
Cheers Jobo…so it’s pretty much a closed shop….ashamed am not shocked
WDH…you are Guido Fieri and I claim my €5….;-))
Congratulations to EKFC and to our EK weather man
Hail Hail ??
Ranking Roger RIP
Another music hero gone.
Mahe from 1.06am
He had Moussa but I think everyone knew that was short term , so he only had him for the moment.
Odsonne at that time was signed but was the majority view not its one or the other and he is the long term replacement for Moussa? We play 1 up front , which was Moussa when not crocked the first two years of Brodges reign , and he now had his replacement signed
The point was that he had them both (plus Leigh) to deploy, therefore he was backed and he still wanted to leave. All players are temporary and may move tomorrow but the only one moving at the time of the China offer was BR himself.
No matter what though should targets be hit then the timing ultimately didnt upset the operation overall . Ive seen more than a few employees give their boss minimum , very little , or no notice and it has always been an eff you rather than Im needed elsewhere right now.
I feel it was this type of scenario but to Peter not Dermot.
The timing , both times (China and Leicester) did upset. It is credit to all in the football club, not just BR, that we managed the treble after having seen that BR had been willing to leave when he was just in the door and, on the final occasion, with a league, still in the balance. Such upheavals can result in lost leagues and a fractious atmosphere of suspicion. It is to the credit of those who stayed behind that we steadied our ship after BTR had rocked it. He can get no credit for the final achievements in landing the title and, hopefully, the SC (no chickens counted). Even if Brendan did restrict his annoyance to bickering with PL behind the scenes, it could still be a drain on player focus. But, as we saw, it was not restricted to this; BR played to the gallery at Press Conferences and his appeal, using the press, to speak out of the side of his mouth to the support did worsen the atmosphere around the club and on the blogs.
You know we werent there but I think you would accept that is the commonly held story of the meeting and wont blame me for using it despite it obviously being shaky ground full of suppositions . But hey we gotta roll with what we are given.
This is where things seem to not add up to me .
This theory accepts that Dermot accepts the two are at loggerheads , yes fine with that and happens all the time , the big boss bringing a couple of employees together to order their beef quashed for the good of the business.
But then to order Peter to support him to the fullest , this suggests Dermot sides with Brendan , and that Peter is actually hindering the footie side enough to need to be ordered to stop it ?
Call me old fashioned but a bit more than a stop it you might have been in order ?
What would “more than a stop it” look like? If we accept that DD banged both heads together and some form of successful life went on, that is credit to both men, or all 3. Your suggestion that more should have been done to PL is based on the idea that he should not be “interfering” in football matters. I doubt that either wanted PL removed from football finance matters or anything so final. The modern world of football sees coaches & managers having to work with the moneymen (or their reps) in the club. Brendan would have had to work with a PL equivalent in China and at Leicester. The days of Clough and Redknapp are long gone.
Both the guys went back to work after the head banging meeting and we moved on from our stumble to start to get on track for our targets again. But then one man left. No new source of rancour had appeared – BR just decided the end of the Europa campaign was as good a time as any to go, but it was a good time for him only. We faced 3 cup ties to secure the final leg of the treble and we had a lead which could easily be overturned by 2 adverse results. I was sanguine about BR going because of what I’d heard (but never revealed) on the China offer but I was under no illusions that his leaving, at that juncture, damaged us.
It is to our credit, and not his, anything we achieve in legs 2 and 3 of this year’s treble.
I personally think its another reason why change at top levels should be sought .
I think the managerial change was bad enough. Losing the CEO at the same time would have been criminal. The idea that PL should go because we lost BR and we think it may have been he who drove him out, is disingenuous when we see the pattern of BR wanting to go from before tensions came to a head.
There will come a time when PL has to go. My view is that he will be replaced by someone who is equally seen as a suit and as a block to the acquisition of star players who we imagine would have come to us were it not for his biscuit-tin ways. Mind you, PL’s replacement will probably come at a smaller cost to the club; there are plenty on here who would do the job at less than half the price and a few who even believe that know how to do it better. I’m not one of those. I join WITS in seeing “Suits” as a convenient target and a necessary evil. However, I do hope it is not Mr. Bankier who gets the job.
And then you attempt to buy loyalty ? Doesnt seem very smart to me , pay employee who wants to leave a small fortune in the hopes he will stay ?
But does that keep him ? Seems the board and many on here thought it should have. I would love to know why as money is the root of all evil and many men will not be swayed one bit by it while others give their life for it .
In essence it was a gamble and it failed .
But, it did keep him- so it did work. I do not believe that they expected this to be the end of BR wanting away but I do believe they expected he would stay the full year. BR thought otherwise.
You then bring up that old bug bear NDA’s. Yes I can see where you are coming from I honestly can but you must recognise they are part and parcel of the game at the upper levels .
I think we have had this dance before but I believe ( MIT can you confirm ? ) that they are for life ,, you simply dont spill the beans. Autobiographies are mostly tame ,, no big drama. The sport itself I dont think wants that type of situation were it is rocked by what a high profile retirement and book might bring .
I am not buying this “NDA buys silence forever” or that football blogs contain no criticism of former clubs or managers. I just googled “former player blasts club he left”- a generic search instruction. It generated stories about Nikola Vlasic criticising his Everton manager, Stephen Ireland blasting Manchester City after he left for Villa, Sunderland’s ex Marketing Director criticising the club for obscene e-mails, the ex-Carrick rangers boss criticising the owner who sacked him, Chelsea “ace” Nathaniel Chalobah criticising the club’s hoarding of young players. Ayr United player Dean Keenan blasting Ian McCall, Ibrahimovic criticising ex Man U players and Warren Barton criticising Mike Ashley )who is no stranger to the law courts). Now some of these will not have had NDA’s but not all will have been free of this restriction and yet criticism will out. There is not an awful lot of evidence for players/managers and ex-players/managers biting their tongues. Neil Lennon did give a quote about PL “selling my best players” but here he is at the club again. Even Bobo gave interviews about Celtic in French newspapers without being sued. He had some criticisms but none of the dramatic stuff that we were all sure was going to come out.
Ranieri
It can’t be ambition for Leicester to get him but madness for Fulham to get him. That is a cake possessed and consumed simultaneously. Leicester was an outlier achievement, even more so than Foinavon in the Grand National. It bucks the trend but it does not disprove it. Even with the “ambitious” signing of BR they will still be slugging it out for somewhere between 8th and 14th place over the next few years, at best.
And finally, you asked for my thoughts on the “hoarding” of money by our club. I can see several possible reasons for it and I have no idea which is more or less plausible than the next
1) It’s always good to have money in reserve for rainy days
2) The manager was leaving so why let him spend the money if he was not committed to our future
3) The new manager is interim and the squad is good enough for his purposes
4) There’s a lot of bonuses due when a treble comes up
5) The money is earmarked for ground development which might be of more use to us, than another round in Europe, in grasping on to the coat tails of any club breakaway movement.
6) Brexit makes the market unstable
7) We have a lot of players to get rid of, before we recruit further, and we don’t want to take a bath on paying them off.
8) We have a manager coming in in the summer and we want to give him a fair whack to spend.
9) We have seen the Man City pay off for coaches abusing former youth players and we are building up a compensation chest.
10) It would not alter our stars to buy another 2 or 3 expensive purchases; we would still be dominant domestically and not radically different in Euro terms.
All that off the top of my head in seconds. I have no doubt some will dismiss them as excuses but sometimes, reasons are just things people never thought about when proposing simplistic solutions.
SFTB et al…all yer arguments are based on supposition…noo I’ve jist watched a movie called The Man who Killed Hitler and then The Bigfoot…and that is mibbe fact lol ;-))
H.H.
Wouldnae be surprised if the Hitler part of it was true and the rest wiz a smokescreen….spoiler alert….”I only killed a man…but the monster he created couldn’t be stopped”….so his death was covered up by both the Nazi’s and the Allies…because it suited them both
Good Morning All – Fresh Crisp Morning In The Chilterns…
MADMITCH @ 12:15 PM,
XYZ & XYZ + 1
Quality forward looking post, you obviously have some insight into this subject and for me the proposals seem sound.
Now your $64K question… how much do we invest and how do we fund this?
This is the issue. My belief is that a pan-European league will happen with the top Clubs being involved. I must say at the beginning of this decade my feeling was it would have been up and running by now.
However, invitees, structure, domestic league impact, UEFA impact, the number of divisions, all seem to be impacting on the ECA’s plans.
How does this affect Celtic? Well I’m sure within the inner sactum; there are knowns, known unknowns and unknown unknowns.
It will involve; whether it is possible or probable, timescales and framework and initial or later involvement.
Celtic will not be anywhere near the premier division, so will it be a phased implementation? Us joining the party later
Will there even be a second division and will Celtic even be involved as a shoo-in, if so will it be as part of an old firm bid?
Until the proposals in these regards are firm then I’m sure the scale of the upgrades and renovations, and the funding for such will not be clear.
That is why the projects we have seen; the upgrade to the environs and the Celtic Way, the disco lights, the pitch upgrade are being done bit by bit. The current future proposals; the Museum, the Hotel etc etc also fit in here.
So for me any major alterations on the rebuild will not be finalised until the domestic European football associations, the ECA and UEFA make there minds up.
Interesting though.
THELURKINTIM @ 12:47 AM,
“SFTB et al…all yer arguments are based on supposition…”
Agreed… while there has been some interesting and insightful debate this has to be tempered by the amount of conjecture involved.
As stated, there has been merit in many of the points made but the truth is obscured through smoke & miirors.
Now, why? The China Crisis yarn was put our there by a blogger with access to the inner sanctum.
In fact the briefing against our last manager began some while ago and took a portentious turn last Summer. Subtle(ish) and drip fed at that time but ominous still the same.
This raises several questions for me…
Why did person or persons unknown inside Celtic feel this crusade was necessary
why was it so malicious
was this officially sanctioned
if it was, at what level within the organisation did this directive come from?
For me, this is not the way Celtic should be going about it’s business… others are infamous for this, even so I’ve never seen the Airdrie Spinmeister spin so low…
We need more E van der Sar/Overmar types at our Club and less Malcolm Tuckers…
Hail Hail
Email update…the government will now debate “Revoke Article 50” on April Fools Day ;-))
Good morning CQN from an overcast and damp Garngad
Well done EKFC and thanks to Jobo for the updates, and good luck to EKFC for their attempt to move into senior football. If only a club would go bust and free up a place, no wait that canny happen.
D66, not to be confused with myself (David66, although we are 2 right good looking guys) good to read back and see you posting, keep it up and Hail Hail Del.
Bring on the Zombies.
D. :)
David66.. sure it did…and a dead club was resurrected from the ashes and entered the league in the bottom tier…at the expense of The Spartans ironically….who never uttered any sort of protest that their hard earned promotion was null & void (allegedly after being compensated)…only in Scotland
Hopefully that’s our last 2 players on international duty on the way home safe and sound.
Lustig was an unused sub and Ajer completed 90 mins in a game that must have been exciting 3-3.
So I make that:
Lustig – Fit
Ajer – Fit
Benkovitch — fit
Boyata – Fit
KT – Fit
Toljan – Fit
So there should be no excuse for defence.
Ntcham – Fit
Brown – Fit
Cal Mac – Fit
Forrest – Fit
Sinclair – Fit
Hayes – Fit
Rogic – Fit
So there should be a decent midfield
Weah – Fit
Eduard – Fit
Burke – Fit
Johnson – Fit
So there should be a decent forward line
I have probably missed someone…..
D. :)
Thelurkentim – nail on head- hail hail
D. :)
https://youtu.be/M6uuwOQlxfI
morning bhoys from a pleasant looking Cheshire, well is it a hard Brexit or a soft Brexit.hh.
Lest we forget.
What’s striking is how, for a short period back then, that it was all so clear cut what had actually happened. The huns had gone out of new business and Newco had to apply for entry to the SFL, having been rebuffed by the SPL. No nonsense about relegation or demotion.
That was before the hun PR machine, with the connivance and acquiesance of others, not least the Celtic board, wrestled control of the narrative to create the fantasy football world that now exists in Scotland.
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‘Rangers newco apply to join SFL after SPL rejection
At a Hampden meeting on Wednesday, Scottish Premier League clubs “voted overwhelmingly” to reject the application from Green’s Rangers newco.
Green said that he was “deeply disappointed” by the ‘no’ vote.
He added: “If our application were to be accepted, Rangers will play in whichever division the SFL sees fit and we will move forward from there.”
Rangers went into administration in February owing up to £134m to unsecured creditors. The club will eventually be liquidated and its registrations with the Scottish FA and SPL were terminated.
The majority of SPL clubs had indicated they were against the newco application prior to the vote but Green complained that he had been given “false hope” of success.
“We are deeply disappointed that our application to rejoin the SPL has been rejected overwhelmingly by the member clubs,” explained Green.
“This time last week, all of us at Rangers were resigned to the fact that we would not be admitted, due mainly to the public declarations of clubs indicating they would not support our application.
“At the weekend, we were approached by representatives from the SPL suggesting our application still stood a chance of success and we should discuss this further with clubs. This we did in good faith but with the knowledge of the hurdles that lay ahead of us.
“We had asked the SPL whether it would be more appropriate for us to withdraw our application but were advised against this.
“We made a presentation to the SPL clubs this morning, detailing our proposals in support of our application and this included what we believed to be penalties and sanctions that would have dealt fairly with the difficulties caused by events at Rangers prior to our acquisition of the club on 14 June.
“Sadly, this was rejected by the other clubs and we regret that our club and our supporters were given false hope by this initiative.
“We will now proceed as we had planned from late June to apply for membership of the SFL.
“It is entirely a matter for them whether our application will be accepted or rejected and we will make no representation to any member club prior to that application being considered.
“We also recognise that the SPL has been placed in a difficult position because of the way events have unfolded.”
SFL clubs met on Tuesday to discuss an SFA proposal that would see Rangers enter Division One and are expected to put the matter to a vote on 12 July.
A simple majority is required in that ballot, with 12 of the 30 clubs already publicly opposed, while Cowdenbeath, whose chairman Donald Findlay QC is a former Rangers vice chairmain, said they would support Rangers’ application to join the SFL, but only if the Ibrox club entered the Third Division.’
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/18707522
Good morning, friends from a calm, dry and bright-ish East Kilbride (Lowland League Champions).
4 more sleeps. And an early reminder that the clocks go forward this weekend so the early kick off is even earlier – effectively it’s now a 9.30am meet up for the visiting fans ;-)
THELURKINTIM
SFTB et al…all yer arguments are based on supposition…noo I’ve jist watched a movie called The Man who Killed Hitler and then The Bigfoot…and that is mibbe fact lol ;-))
Well, not exactly “ALL yer arguments”
BR has definitely left the club- that’s a fact.
However, on suppositions, you are telling us nothing new. We took care to highlight the areas where the facts were murky in our original posts and we are still making reference to that now. It’s a bit much to be pulled up for something you’ve already admitted to.
So, what else is the purpose behind your “ifs, buts and maybes” charge?
Is it that we should leave it alone because we cannot ultimately KNOW the facts. Too late for that!. Everybody has already had their say- you’ve probably;y chipped in yourself to this.
There are already several narratives out there
PL chased BR out of the club
DD chastised both of them equally and they should leave.
Those narratives were given birth and survived without you charging them with the “ifs, buts and maybes” observation.
So, why, when it’s the alternative view, i.e. that BR was on the lookout to leave for a long time before McGinn et al, does the supposition element loom large?
In these circumstances, where we have no insider knowledge, you can only go on the pattern of events and see which version of the “truth” has any consistency or coherence with the known events.
I am content enough to see that there are difficulties posed for the “PL drove him out” argument has some difficulty in accommodating the China job story within its framework of the Piccini/McGinn window fall out.
Bognor Bhoy
Ta for posting ranking Roger.
Chairbhoy
“Now, why? The China Crisis yarn was put our there by a blogger with access to the inner sanctum.
In fact the briefing against our last manager began some while ago and took a portentious turn last Summer. Subtle(ish) and drip fed at that time but ominous still the same.
This raises several questions for me…
Why did person or persons unknown inside Celtic feel this crusade was necessary
why was it so malicious
was this officially sanctioned
if it was, at what level within the organisation did this directive come from?
I think it would have been better if you had named the blogger with the agenda because I think it would make your suppositions of malice harder to sustain.
I have stated, on more than one occasion, that I heard the story about China, long before the events of BR leaving. I suspect whoever you regard as the inner-sanctum blogger, heard it much earlier than I did. The source of the rumour was someone I did not speak to directly, is someone with no axe to grind and is not in the employ of Celtic, I assure you.
On hearing it, far from behaving maliciously, I kept it to myself, as did the alleged inner-sanctum blogger.
My reason for this- it could only harm Celtic, my club, if this was out there.
I think events have proved me right on that- the club got back on an even keel and won the treble and all of us who had heard this pretty much kept it to ourselves.
All bets were off on that when BR eventually got his wish to leave.
I think you have gone over the top in attributing malice to the un-named poster, in “revealing” this on CQN. I would ask is there equal malice in attributing stuff to PL or in blaming him for BR going because we have had over a year of this. My recollection is that the un-named poster put this information into the mix without any charge or rancour expressed against BR himself. It seemed to me, he was adding a piece of information to help us understand events.
Other people have expressed great anger at either PL or BR or both.
I don’t share that anger and I won’t have it attributed to me. I don’t believe the un-named poster does either and to paint him as some sort of PL mouthpiece or scuttlebutt rumour monger is unfair but I should let him speak for himself if you will name who you are targeting.
People will still have their hate figures in all of this but, I believe that, by putting the China job fact into the mix to aid understanding, it is no longer possible to see BR’s departure as just caused by “Push” factors coming from PL and low ambition from the club.
Have to run again- work calls
Piccini ? .
The day after he signed for Valencia ( 10 million euros according to the Spanish / Portuguese / italian media ) he was quoted thus in -La Gazzetta Dello Sport- ( Italy’s biggest selling /most widely read ‘newspaper ‘)–
” I’m delighted . A very good team in a very good League . Valencia is a beautiful city ,I am really going to enjoy being here .There was talk of other Clubs but none of them were attractive to me or Sporting Lisbona “
RANKING RODGER RIP .
Fine gig at Tiffanys in the early 80s
STAND DOWN MARGARET-
https://youtu.be/SfhxJiE38sE
Oh well — one more before I’m off oot in the rain -way down south .
Italia 6 – Lichenstein 0
Didn’t watch -blood sports are not my thing – but this guy did .
” Only people in an office in Switzerland can explain what such games are about . My only pleasure was watching Marco Verratti doing his space and geometry thing at walking pace . The downside of that was getting to see that some of his teammates aren’t on the same planet as him ,even in slow motion.”
Fitba pundit -Italian radio 27 3 19
CB @ 5.37
Thanks for your response.
My thoughts are based on a premise that any successful business has to have a plan going forward — stagnation leads to decline if it is just a case of more of the same.
My thoughts are based on two elements:
The ground and its associated facilities have not substantially improved in 20 years.
Disco lights, some block paving and a new pitch are local improvements but not the step change we need.
We are now behind the curve regarding what we offer compared to other clubs regarding fan facilities and match-day spend. The Main Stand needs a ground up re-build and we need to be planning for this now rather than a cavalry charge at some time in the future when the arbitrage instincts of DD pay off.
The second point is the progress we have made in the past 2.5 years with our understanding that investment does pay off — investment in the coaching staff in 2016 has produced a step change in our view of the world.
Consequently well planned investment does pay off financially.
Penny pinching and setting our sights low emptied the LL Upper.
Investment in a top quality coach filled the LL Upper and sold out the season tickets.
At the moment we are happy to spend big — very big — on executive bonuses to the point that we are in danger of losing sight on what should be important to the club and where our future lies. We need to re-focus and put more effort into moving the club and team forward rather than rewarding the rent seeker in the corner office.
My base point is that what we have is not good enough.
The poor quality of the fan facilities is costing us money.
The whole of football is now investing in infrastructure that makes a game of football a day out rather than something that has to be accommodated between a half shift on a Saturday and a family meal at six.
There are a number of ways to improve things:
Immediate / Aug 2019 = Container City fan zone along Holywell Street / Janefield Street and behind both the JS and LL stands with a temporary cover.
Short term / Aug 2021 = £10mill spend behind the JS Stand including a multi-storey car park to free up space for further developments.
Medium Term / Aug 23 = New Main Stand providing 7K extra regular seats and space for 8K more up in the attic. We have to do something just a case of how much and when?
The costs will be substantial but so will be the rewards — more seats and better seats should bring in another £10mill in ticket and hospitality sales plus better facilities will transform the matchday offer and spend. Currently you cannot get a meal at the ground unless you are in some sort of hospitality or you are in the free pie seats — this is great for the Merchant City but poor for our finances.
Bare bones design — with lots of covered space — would be £50-60mill.
L/pool new main stand style build — more complete fit out — would be £80-100mill.
State of the art with hotel standard facilities / conference would be more and probably a lot more.
My thoughts are build big with large covered spaces and areas and fill in the detail as the demand and the customer base is better understood. The big question still outstanding id where will the money be coming from — my thoughts are CFC Infrastructure bonds.
Mix of 10 year, 15 year, 20 year and 25 year bonds.
Longer periods mean higher interest rates — example below for 15 year:
Paying 3% base.
4% if we win the SPL.
5% if we make the CL group stages or similar.
6% if we make the EPL or similar.
£100mill of bond debt then becomes manageable to my eyes if we are bringing in an extra £20mill in revenue — even an extra £10mill makes the project wash its face.
FMcC in 1994 offered us a vision and more importantly delivered the vision that went well beyond what we were expecting or what we thought we were capable off. That was leadership but the world has moved on.
So now we need more of that long term planning at the moment — just being better than our rivals in Govan is not good enough. We need to forget about them and take in bigger horizons.
Finally we need to do more for the Parkhead, the East End and the City.
If we have the facilities and the product on the park then we can open up the tourist angle.
Eye opener down in L/pool city centre last May — the amount of different accents talking about the last home game of the season was incredible.
At the moment we only take money off our local support base we should be taking money off the world.