Doubt remains until we hear the words Prima Facie

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Neil Doncaster has uttered the words “Prima Facie” more often than any other figure in public life since February when Celtic Quick News first asked if Rangers EBT payments were declared to the football authorities, almost always after the words “we don’t know if there is a”.  While we are all assuming the SPL have now established Rangers have a case to answer for illegally registering footballers for over a decade, it’s important to hear the words.

Rangers refused to submit information to the SPL for three months and only did so under the duress of a deadline, but we don’t know what they have submitted.  I have been concerned that Rangers would simply try to brass the entire episode out, submit the contracts the SFA and SPL already had, and deny having any record of side agreements.

Consider the clubs modus operandi in recent months and years.  Sir David Murray provided cover in March, categorically denying side contracts existed, while the current men in charge have been too busy to spare much time researching the issue.  A response of “We don’t have any information” would not have surprised me.  Rangers submitting full information – including details on the side letters which exist but which the BBC do not have – would surprise me.

The SPL should have realised months ago they would get nothing from Rangers without a deadline but they are in awkward position if the answer from the club is not what is expected.  It’s far from clear that they can take evidence from the BBC and may require information from the First Tier Tribunal verdict to substantiate what everyone knows.  The verdict is unlikely to confirm any names.

Until Mr Doncaster says “Prima Facie evidence exists” we should not assume this episode is on track to be dealt with.

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  1. 31003 on 2 June, 2012 at 00:31

     

     

    Please stop using rude words, as others have mentioned there are youngsters who read the site at different timezones.

  2. Rascar Capac on

    All happening now!

     

     

    I remember playing in an eleven aside bounce game one evening.

     

     

    There were dark trees in the background, and the light was fading a bit.

     

     

    I played a fairly safe pass to a teammate who was unmarked.

     

     

    Only he wasn’t, and the black guy in dark strip nicked in easily and stole the ball.

     

     

    Cue loadsa shouting at me for my daft pass.

     

     

    I knew I couldn’t say why I’d done it, it would just sound racist.

     

     

    But that is a small price to pay for us having a better society.

  3. The Comfortable Collective on

    petec on 2 June, 2012 at 00:27:

     

     

    What was the developing point he was making about “Asian gentlemen?”

     

     

    And did he answer my question about whether his No.2 son asked these people where they were from, or did he just assume based on the fact that “they all look the same” that they were Pakistanis or Indians, (no chance they could have been scottish?) and my other question, has anyone been jailed for saying “they all look the same”, as he seems to think his boy would be

     

     

    Hmmmmmm.

     

     

    Anyway, I’m off too bed.

     

     

    Kojo will no doubt be along in a minute, to explain why “muslims are not our friends”, (and aye, that is a direct quote).

  4. 31003 on 2 June, 2012 at 00:22 said:

     

    ABSOLUTE AR**HOLES

     

    Saw them at my first gig at the apollo circa 1977

     

    I think they were the support act for the SKIDS!

  5. petec

     

    Aye, he is.

     

    I have five dogs now, and this little one had me in tears last night, I don’t pray too much, but I done my bit last night, I even did Reki on him, haven’t done it for many years, my hands were burning.

     

    Something or someone wanted him to live.

     

    I hope that the balance can be addressed now, he lives, them’s die, seems fair to me.

     

    HH

  6. RRC,

     

    Sitting here with a glass trying to recall some Apollo gigs we did,

     

    Jethro Tull

     

    Wishbone Ash

     

    The Who

     

    Deep Purple

     

    Stones

     

    S.A.H.B.

     

    Donovan

     

    Uriah Heep

     

    Loudon Wainwright III

     

    Eagles

     

    Roxy Music

     

    Bob Marley

     

    Faces

     

    Ian Gillan

     

    Queen

     

    Van the man…etc

     

    then it was onwards and upwards to S.E.C.C. earls Court etc

     

    thems were the days bro.

  7. What is the Stars on

    Sixteen Roads

     

     

    Low Life ,while a very good book,Is certainly not “the original” book on the topic

     

    Low Life was written in the 1990s,many books have been written on this subject over the last 150 years

  8. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    TET,

     

    It must have baffled you how a big dog disappeared out of your company only to turn up needin bail :O)

  9. The Comfortable Collective on

    31003,

     

     

    I’m sure you never use rascist language. Just as sure as I am that you never use sweary words either.

     

     

    You also seem to have an extreme fixation with the physical act of love. Good for you.

  10. Friday Frank on

    What is the Stars on 2 June, 2012 at 00:38 said:

     

    Thanks for the recommendation.

     

    HH

  11. zimmerman

     

     

    I didn’t go to the Eagles, following the Who at Celtic Park, I gave my ticket to Noreen rather than ask her to give hers back. Hotel California tour, yeah?

  12. The Comfortable Collective on 2 June, 2012 at 00:39 said:

     

     

    Okay….does Scottish Pakistani….or Scottish Indian sound better……I’ll say a well used phrase for ye ya tube……what connotations does African American bring to mind…….say black person and I’ll get the polis on to ye ye warmer

  13. RRC

     

    can’t remember, all I can remember was sitting in ths stand and the hibs fans shouting Hibees, the old stan rocked.. first cup final we lost was Davie Robb(/) scored I think in extra time…

  14. Rascar Capac on

    The Rosevale and The Windsor Tavern are my local pubs, but I’ve never been in them in my four months here.

     

     

    Today they are resplendent in red white and blue bunting and union flags.

     

     

    Hmmm…

  15. Sixteen roads to Golgotha on

    What is the Stars on 2 June, 2012 at 00:42 said:

     

     

    You are right mate.I can’t remember the name of the book that i read,think it was a Danish fella,whom actually travelled around the Five Points at the time,writing about,and photographing the conditions that he was witnessing.

     

     

    I think that his work actually lead to the demolition and rebuilding of the area?

  16. also zimmerman..

     

    Earlier tonight praecepta was posting about Isle of wight 1970. I remember there was a huge poster advertising the gig on the wall in your room, did Mick go to the concert?

  17. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    TET,

     

    got bitch slapped and told to pay for what I’ve got, then start building empires :o)

     

    sometimes it gets profound :o)

  18. Blantyretim

     

     

    I for the first time see you up that early.

     

    You beat Vmhan.

     

    I hope all is well.

  19. You know me, Gallant if nothing else

     

    Seemed the right thing to do at the time considering the CP gig aftermath

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