Neil Doncaster has uttered the words “Prima Facie” more often than any other figure in public life since February when Celtic Quick News first asked if Rangers EBT payments were declared to the football authorities, almost always after the words “we don’t know if there is a”. While we are all assuming the SPL have now established Rangers have a case to answer for illegally registering footballers for over a decade, it’s important to hear the words.
Rangers refused to submit information to the SPL for three months and only did so under the duress of a deadline, but we don’t know what they have submitted. I have been concerned that Rangers would simply try to brass the entire episode out, submit the contracts the SFA and SPL already had, and deny having any record of side agreements.
Consider the clubs modus operandi in recent months and years. Sir David Murray provided cover in March, categorically denying side contracts existed, while the current men in charge have been too busy to spare much time researching the issue. A response of “We don’t have any information” would not have surprised me. Rangers submitting full information – including details on the side letters which exist but which the BBC do not have – would surprise me.
The SPL should have realised months ago they would get nothing from Rangers without a deadline but they are in awkward position if the answer from the club is not what is expected. It’s far from clear that they can take evidence from the BBC and may require information from the First Tier Tribunal verdict to substantiate what everyone knows. The verdict is unlikely to confirm any names.
Until Mr Doncaster says “Prima Facie evidence exists” we should not assume this episode is on track to be dealt with.
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In light of what has happened today – the huns players and managers, who have failed in all competitions this season, and achieved most of that failure before they entered administration, have been restored to full pay – who has been fked the worst? If the answer’s the huns fans, what are the possible consequences? If you were, for example, Maurice Edu, who had once been racially abused for poor result in a European game, would you want to hing aboot in a failing 3rd division team? What is the definition of Rangers failure in the context of the 3rd division? Not winning the B&Q Cup?
Surely being in the B&*Q cup is failure?
If things go a certain way, maybe getting into the SFL in 2013/14 might be success?
Mr G 02:19
Awesome track.
A really new day for me more than you will ever know.
Celtic, the Beautiful and Majestic ship Celtic with All its different supporters so In Tune with what Celtic really is. It is absolutely incredible.
Sixteen roads to Golgotha on 2 June, 2012 at 02:22 said:
tarrant on 2 June, 2012 at 02:18 said:
PMSL.
Me too. There are some hugely obvious things here that are being missed deliberately, or because they’re distracted, or they’re stupid. Like:
Ally McCoist is a shit manager.
I actually feel weird typing it, like I’m possibly breaching some huge pact among the mazillions of Celtic fans who can see this obvious fact but don’t want to tip off the huns.
Petec.
The sequence of posts I refer to was many months ago….Rascar will know the identity of the poster to whom I am referring,as he was contributing to the dialogue…
Pinkety ?
Tarant mo chara,
Downtrodden.That is least of my problems.The Newco.Now,if they resurrect and thats what they are gunning for,lets not kid ourselves,etc.Say the other clubs vote them in.
Nae debt,Rangers Utd,but it will always be Rangers,THEN,backers, cash inflow,new signings and all of a sudden they are back in town.Dont dismiss it son.Or please tell me the aforementioned is bull,please.
Petec 2.27
I know beautiful song which just came into my mind prompted by MWD saying this at 2.12
What will be will be. Not worth getting annoyed about. Waking up a Celt each day is a golden ray of sunshine.
I also like this track http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrVJGEc39-E&feature=relmfu
HH
tarrant on 2 June, 2012 at 02:31 said:
They’re away,you are right.
The administrators will be paid their fees,guaranteed.I was saying earlier that it would be funny if the huns bumped Duff & Phelps as well,but that isn’t going to happen – If Murray Park,their players,Ibrox all have to be sold in order to pay them,then so be it.The administrators are always the first to be paid.
Fair play to them,they are running it some bill.
Over and out.
The Singing Detective – Whitey’s On The Moon is “widely regarded as racist”. Really? By who? GSH is clearly speaking out against inequality. If those white people who benefit from racism – pretty much all of us -are offended by his use of the term “whitey” then there is no perspective and no hope. Frankly I identify more closely with Gil Scott Heron than I do with you; he understands oppression, bigotry and racism. I’ve never heard him saying anything that I would regard as racist.
HH
PV
Mr Comfy Collective.
“Kojo thinks the Muslims will never be our friends “.
I did not see Kojo’s original post…
However,any time the issue is brought up,it has been suggested that he said,”the Arabs will never be our friends”
Rather different,I think…?
However,I’m sure you’ll confess your wee white lie when you next go tae confession
Pinkety ?
The Singing Detective on 2 June, 2012 at 02:25
Even Jesus when he was a mortal did not have the knowledge and made a point of this. So when anyone says they know the time. They are Bell*nds basically deceiving people.
A couple of very controversial links….
Dr. Ahmadinejad Talks About Imam Mahdi [aj]
Naughty miles
Hail Hail
The Singing Detective on 2 June, 2012 at 02:44
Different, yes. But no less offensive.
HH
PV
I don;t discount what you say – I think some of what you say will come to pass. But…I think they can’t enter the SPL next season, as they currently exist (because that requires a CVA, which I believe they won’t achieve *); or as a Newclub (because I believe, once the opportunity to achieve a CVA has passed, the window to achieve and introduce a NewClub without legal opposition will not be available ** ).
* copious coverage on this and rangerstaxcase websites
** based on the apparent cut-off date for SFL applications being 14 June. And my assumptions, possibly very wrong, that the huns do not have Plan B, C or D lined up, unless those plans continue to enrich D&P or/and C Whyte.
*** Imagine the SFL, on receipt of an application from NewHuns (Real Rangers, or Continuity Rangers, or King Billy’s Psychotic Avengers, whatever) declined their application in line with UEFA’s newly implemented Financial Fair Play rules. Or indeed, in line with FIFA’s “don’t youse fkng cross us again” rule.
Time for ma bed mibbes.
gallagher 02:43
Beautiful.
Bob Chapman is very ill now from listening to radio broadcasts lately. He was championing Greece to default a long time ago, you will probably know as he submitted articles regularly on http://www.globalresearch.ca.
HH my Big Chap.
I missed the earlier conversation where someone might have suggested that Gil Scott-Heron’s “Whitey on the Moon” was racist.
Foolish.
Gil Scott-Heron’s racist song was this:
http://youtu.be/Vf2QTwtM-GA
Listen and understand.
Tarrant,Sleep well mo chara.
Percy Vere.
I happy that you’re happy that he doesn’t offend you…
I listen to reggae…despite the frequent anti-white sentiments expressed in the lyrics…I particularly liked Steel Pulse from their beginnings —never listened to the lyrics.
However,as I recall from a Reggae Series which reappears on BBC 4 every so often..a reggae artist made the point that ‘white folk’ must be masochists to listen to this kind of music,given the content of the lyrics…
Well that’s Good Ole White Folk…perhaps they just don’t have the ‘Hair Trigger’ sensitivities over racial matters as seen in other societies around the world..
Sadly,Steel Pulse came to grief when the moved to the USA….their lyrics had become to political and were judged to be racially offensive…they were quickly dropped by the record label,and never regained their early popularity..
Very musically inventive,incorporating western styles such as flamenco….shame about the lyrics….
TeddyTaylorCSC.
(Thumbsup?)
tarrant on 2 June, 2012 at 03:03
Powerful sonics.
Goodnight to all Tims throughout the world.TAL.
Percy Vere.
My 02:44am was intended for Mr Comfy,as you are well aware.
Are you a troll for Media Matters,or some other George Soros related front-organisation.
Kojo expressed an opinion,which was quite valid.
Don’t happen to agree with it….For a start,he was overlooking the oppressed Christian minorities in the Middle East,about whom the Holy Father is becoming increasingly concerned..
Petec…
I know all about Amahdinejad and the Twelvers…
The most perpicacious Ed Stourton,(alumni of Ambleside) produced a very interesting program on this very subject last year…Outlook…on Radio 4.Very detailed sixty minutes.
More recently he had a series of programmes on Turkey,highlighting the worriesome political and social changes,since the AKP gained power in 2002…..
Hope you get to visit the magnificent Haghia Sophia some day …
The Singing Detective on 2 June, 2012 at 03:06
I’m not happy that he doesn’t offend me, he just doesn’t offend me. As for reggae and racist lyrics? I’d appreciate some examples. I’m a fan of Steel Pulse and I’m not aware of them, or any reggae band, singing racist lyrics, but I’d be happy to be corrected. But where in your analysis does power come in? White Western society has oppressed, and continues to oppress, people on the basis of skin colour, religion, sex, sexuality, disability and nationality. How can we be outraged if the anger of oppressed people is turned against us? Those of us from an Irish and/or Catholic heritage display plenty of anger on this forum. Is that wrong? And if not, how is that different from any other oppressed group expressing anger?
I ask that, but you have given no examples of anything that I would regard as racist. Still, I have just listened to the song on Tarrant’s link, GSH’s “Enough”. You could argue that it is racist, but it doesn’t offend me. It would only offend me if I could imagine myself in his position and NOT feel the anger that he does. Unless I’ve read you wrong, Tarrant, you’re not offended either.
HH
PV
I believe Kojo expressed consternation once on CQN at Miscegenation ? I wonder what both King of Kings think of Celtic supporters supporting Miscegenation?
Things I hate most about Celtic supporters
1. The ones that loathe WGS
2. The ones that booed Fergus
3. The ones that fund hunnery
4. The ones that want to see huns in the SPL next season so Celtic can gub them 10-0.
5. The ones that think Celtic are Irish….
err thats it!
It is interesting the chat has went this route tonight.
Here is speculation that is very hard to refute.
Divide and Conquer is always the tool.
http://www.artisticmanifesto.com/2012/04/secret-meeting-that-changed-hip-hop.html?spref=fb
People need to realise that the Tower of Babylon, is the unfinished business that the Masons will rejoice in when the 3rd Temple in Jerusalem is built. Where the Antichrist is enthroned. The Antichrist will be the Ultimate peacemaker.
For those who look deep into films, prometheus is likely to be a big flag for all the Highly initiated people. And that is likely to be bad news for us wee guys. They are promoting the False evolution.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/702738/epk_news_the_european_parliaments_tower_of_babel/
The initiated are greeted with a 666 handsign straight away. A young people too.
Jesus Christ, I am glad I know this human who was also God in the Flesh.
petec on 2 June, 2012 at 03:31 said:
You’re just way behind. The Israeli’s have already built the 4th and 5th temples of Jerusalem. Ones based on plutonium ones based on hydrogen.
Strange that there was a discussion about slavery on CQN yesterday, was reading a link posted by petec about the New World Order there,and this caught my attention:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=31076
Don’t think that i could read this book without throwing my guts up,and if i did read the said book,it would just make me hate.
Gonna buy it anyway,and will read it someday.
Tarrant.
Sweet(Non-Racial) Dreams,O brass-necked one….
Criticism of whitey on the moon
The Singing Detective on 2 June, 2012 at 03:42 said:
Whats the point in cheapening Apollo 11?
Margaret McGill on 2 June, 2012 at 03:30 said:
Is WGS retired from football management,and if not,why does he no longer find himself in gainful employment?
Margaret McGill
Oh you are a devil, how many fingers you got. :))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvYg_Y7-33Y
Follow through all the way, if you can be bothered, the first link has no relative information but just to familiarise yourself. :)
The link Will give you all that you need to know about the Spirit of the United Nations (Paganism).
Sixteen roads to Golgotha
gallagher, has been linking to globalresearch for years on CQN, I just wish everyone made that their main news outlet.
petec on 2 June, 2012 at 03:47 said:
Very interesting read mate.Frightening what is going on in the world.
Sixteen roads to Golgotha on 2 June, 2012 at 03:44 said:
coz he achieved his ultimate with Celtic..
The recurring CQN theme of contempt for WGS.
3T3C2x16in4=3 titles,3cups,2 last of 16 in 4 years and memories to last a lifetime.
So why does it keep cropping up? Lets see what I have heard.
1. He didnt play football the Celtic way. (3T3C2x16in4)
2. The financial contraction of Celtic had nothing to do with the product on the park. It was WGS’ fault. (3T3C2x16in4)
3. He has red hair. (errr…Lenny??)
4. He wasnt Celtic minded (ugh!) (3T3C2x16in4)
5. He took the piss out of the media (should be given a medal)
6. His success was due to Henke (Burst out laughing at that one. Henke left in 2004.)
7. He took the piss out of some of the Celtic supporters. (So what. So do I. Some of them need it).
8. He didnt eat all of his yogurt he left in the fridge like he said he would.
9. He didnt tell Naka to track back.
10.He wasnt Jock Stein. (there will only ever be one)
11. He didnt win the champions league or give us a “Seville” (what a hun)
12. He and Fergus conspired to fund the Nigerian offshore drilling program thus impacting PL’s vision.
and on and on and on pish pish pish
To me I see only explanation. No one wants to admit to the true horror of it hence the vociferousness of the anti-replies
…….Proddie dog factor! Racism and bigotry twisted in all its convulted ignorance. The indignation of the weearrapeepil type mentality. The main reason I loathe hunnery in the first place and there is no way Celtic supporters shoul participate in that hypocrisy. WGS I adore you.
Petec.
O B A M A.
A M A B O (latin)..”We will love “.
How will this affect your EndOfTimes/Eschatology Theories..?
Converse of “We Will Love” …”We Will Hate ” ?
BibleCodeCSC
petec on 2 June, 2012 at 03:44 said:
Religion is the opium of the peepil !
are we done here or is there more?
Margaret McGill on 2 June, 2012 at 03:50 said:
Lawwell signed Naka…WGS had never heard tell of him before.The Boruc transfer was almost done and dusted before WGS put pen to paper.He squandered untold millions on incompetents with no sell-on value,and agreed that the club pay them countless millions in wages.
Thomas Gravesen – £40,000 per week in wages.
He never was a good manager,and he never will be – and if you don’t believe me ask Coventry,Southampton and Middlesborough fans.
My granny could have won those three titles.
Sixteen roads to Golgotha on 2 June, 2012 at 03:59 said:
Bigot!
Moving on
**«Maggie McGill»**
The Apollo Project was a magnificent achievement .
The cancellation of the Arien Rocket programme by ‘Zero’ is treacherous,but so is virtually every action he takes in government..
A true Manchurian Candidate….
If Liam Brady had won 3 titles and 3 cups and 2 such Champions League forays we would be having collections!