Neil Doncaster has uttered the words “Prima Facie” more often than any other figure in public life since February when Celtic Quick News first asked if Rangers EBT payments were declared to the football authorities, almost always after the words “we don’t know if there is a”. While we are all assuming the SPL have now established Rangers have a case to answer for illegally registering footballers for over a decade, it’s important to hear the words.
Rangers refused to submit information to the SPL for three months and only did so under the duress of a deadline, but we don’t know what they have submitted. I have been concerned that Rangers would simply try to brass the entire episode out, submit the contracts the SFA and SPL already had, and deny having any record of side agreements.
Consider the clubs modus operandi in recent months and years. Sir David Murray provided cover in March, categorically denying side contracts existed, while the current men in charge have been too busy to spare much time researching the issue. A response of “We don’t have any information” would not have surprised me. Rangers submitting full information – including details on the side letters which exist but which the BBC do not have – would surprise me.
The SPL should have realised months ago they would get nothing from Rangers without a deadline but they are in awkward position if the answer from the club is not what is expected. It’s far from clear that they can take evidence from the BBC and may require information from the First Tier Tribunal verdict to substantiate what everyone knows. The verdict is unlikely to confirm any names.
Until Mr Doncaster says “Prima Facie evidence exists” we should not assume this episode is on track to be dealt with.
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The Comfortable Collective on 2 June, 2012 at 00:39 said:
petec on 2 June, 2012 at 00:27:
What was the developing point he was making about “Asian gentlemen?”
And did he answer my question about whether his No.2 son asked these people where they were from, or did he just assume based on the fact that “they all look the same” that they were Pakistanis or Indians, (no chance they could have been scottish?) and my other question, has anyone been jailed for saying “they all look the same”, as he seems to think his boy would be
Hmmmmmm.
Anyway, I’m off too bed.
Kojo will no doubt be along in a minute, to explain why “muslims are not our friends”, (and aye, that is a direct quote).
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After reading through all the comments, I personally think, that his point was totally lost.
I don’t understand your “they all look the same comment” as it was from the other perspective from what I read. I think this is where the confusion has entered the discussion.
As for Kojo, I’ve not been online when he has been about, but I am glad the guy is back online and I will tell him that I have missed him because I really enjoy all his submissions to this blog, especially as he is quite willing to be a very lone voice and believes in what he is conveying. It takes a lot of courage to be that voice in the wilderness.
BT
Davie Robb was ABerdeen
I’m reading ‘The Kincora Scandal (MI5)’ by Chris Moore at the moment. It really is a disturbing book. The parallels that can be drawn between how the authorities/media managed that scandal and how they are doing so again with the Rangers debacle is disgusting.
No Mean City was a good read i thought,although i don’t really like fiction.
A Sense of Freedom by Jimmy Boyle,another goodun about the Gorbals.
RRC,
Celtic park gig,
Little Feat played at that and we didn’t realise we were seeing a great band till later.
canamalar
I know how it feels to get bitch slapped.
I put the foot down, and ended up living in a hole in the ground :>)))
Pain is good btw :>)
Sixteen Roads
Jacob Riis,How the other half lives is the book you are thinking of.
A week to go until we welcome the worlds best to Free Derry for the Reamonn Gormley tournament.
On book subject,
reading Brave New World at the moment,
read along with 1984 tells you all you need to know really.
Starting a new thread,
What books are on your shelf??
31003,
“Ya tube” “Ye warmer” Given some of terms you were directing at me earlier, these sound almost like terms of endearment.
“Pakistanis, Indians, Scottish Pakistani, Scottish Indian” – whatever way you want to describe them, getting back to your original post, why define people who are shopping in a supermarket for by their racial group? Hmmmm.
P.S. I see your original post at 23:29 has been deleted, was that because it was so innocuous and innoffensive?
Little Feat were by far and away the best band that played at Celtic Park that day, Alex Harvey was a close second, Street Walkers were good, LS were dissapointing, The Who were even more dissapointing.
All about where yer head was at I suppose.
I said to Tom Mc the other night,
their strategy is to bring scottish football down with them
today they achieved that
accepting and responding to a civil court ruling is the end
allowing and defending a dispute in civil court is an fifa offence
complying with a civil court decision is the precedent feared.
No shelf in here but I can see 3 books
Life: Keef’s Autobiography
Neil Lennon: Man and Bhoy
And The Bible NIV Translation…
Petec, your defence of Kojo;
“As for Kojo, I’ve not been online when he has been about, but I am glad the guy is back online and I will tell him that I have missed him because I really enjoy all his submissions to this blog, especially as he is quite willing to be a very lone voice and believes in what he is conveying. It takes a lot of courage to be that voice in the wilderness. ”
Fair enough, like many posters on here, you defend him and his ‘courage’.
Good for you.
He is a bigot.
Kitalba,
You’ll get yer eyes opened wae that scandal buddy.Hidden for years and I’m delighted you have brought that up.The main scoundrel was McGrath and Paisley knew about it from day one.
Just read the first book of The Hunger Games trilogy, on my Blackberry Playbook.
Decent read, and I can now talk to my nieces about something they like.
I like to go to sleep reading, and now with an ebook, I can read with white text on a dark background, in the dark in a sleeping position.
No more sore elbows, or decisions to go to sleep.
It just happens.
Just the odd wee flick of a finger to turn the page.
TCC, 31003 and even Kojo.
3 of Celtic’s Finest supporters of CELTIC
The Exiled Tim,
As i recall The Who’s laser show was a bit of a damp squib that day,mostly because it was still daylight when they used it.
Bundoran Bhoy : HH!
Just f.y.i. I’ve sent 2 emails to you re. badges. Hope you received them okay.
One of my best gigs was ELO at Loch Lomond with my arch-nemesis Arthur Lee.
Correct mate.I did buy them both and Five Points as well,some Irish/American girl that i once knew recommended them to me.
One story in Five Points – This Chinese fella got married to an Irish girl,well they both used to get drunk and fight and sing – think he ended up doin’ her in – but the Chinaman kept singing rebel songs and trying to speak Gaelic – Im not sure but i think that he ended up in the nut house,yer woman wasn’t the the full shilling either,she probably drove the Chinaman insane.
Not saying that it was funny,because of what happened,it was a good wee story though.
Another quick post.
Ill be getting a name soon as MWDPE. :-)
Kit. I can back up your sentiments re. Kincorra. Read the book and looked into this further. British establishment peadophilia organised by OO members. Shocking!!!
On another point (before I PE) 31003 posting tonight was taken out of context by a few on here. 31003 comments have been made publically to me and by me many a time in face to face conversations.
In fact. I had a conversation last week with my neighbour (a lovely gentleman) whom when i told him my job was at risk due to my company offshoring jobs to India stated “thats expletive expletive shocking. I cant understand those expletive Indians. I always put the phone down and try again for a Brit operator” in his broad Brummy accent.
I agreed.
I have heard many a person reference asians as Indian or Pakistani without underlying racist connotations. Many a many’s time.
31003 is not a racist and never will be. Get off your offended horse.
MWD
Book recommendation
Eureka Street by Robert McLiam Wilson
Racism recommendation
Don’t make ludicrous generalisations like “Pakistanis are more likely to be terrorists”, “Africans are great runners”, “Catholics molest children”. I had to pull someone up today for asking why Africans like singing and dancing so much. There are just over a billion people living in Africa, never mind the millions in other parts of the world who might consider themselves in some way “African”. It is difficult to generalise on a more specious level than attributing a cultural behaviour to 1bn people.
You can of course be specific where there is evidence, eg “Kojo is a bigot.” [CQN passim.]
Here’s some African music:
http://youtu.be/A88CXiNJQvs
Not read the Hunger Games, but isn’t it a rip off of Battle Royale, throw that one at your nieces. You’ll be cool then :O)
The Comfortable Collective on 2 June, 2012 at 01:07
I think you should listen a lot more to Auldheid.
Just my very error prone opinion.
Hail Hail m8
wait&see.csc
the comfortable collective
whats your interpretation of the word
bigot
petec on 2 June, 2012 at 01:10:
I have followed many of your posts, and many links you have posted to esoteric and otherwise enlightening sites over the last wee while.
And as regards your post at 01:10, I understand what you are saying.
So, PAX VOBISCUM to everyone, and time to see what the Bilderberg chaps are up to in Virginia.
Moonbeams WD. Kano 1000 \o/ Supporting Neil Lennon 100%. Champions. on 2 June, 2012 at 01:12 said:
Well Said D.
Hail Hail Big Chap.
Been a blast on here tonight, guys
hardly any wallowing in the HUNS misery which was refreshing
Your company has been excellent.
zimmerman, as always, Bro/
Good night all
Tricoloured Ribbon/mwd:
There are some subjects that I would hesitate to mention on here and although I was aware of the scandal, this is the first time I’ve read a book about it. Shocking and unbelievable what the establishment allowed the favoured people of the day away with.
MWD:
I hope the rest is doing you good. Haste ye back.
Little Feat – Fat man in the bathtub.
The Huddle
There is not much new in this world.
Wizards have pointy hats, dwarfs(dwarves) are wee, baddies are ugly.
In fact, I’ve just had an idea for a bestseller…
petec on 2 June, 2012 at 01:10 said:
great attitude
HH
RRC,
Its early.
kitalba on 2 June, 2012 at 00:56 said:
Who framed Colin Wallace by Paul Foot and War Without Honour by Captain Fred Holroyd.
HH
31003,
ah gave you advice on how to moderate your vocabulary ha ha hahahahahhahhhahaha
hail hail
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on 2 June, 2012 at 01:15
“whats your interpretation of the word bigot?”
My definition is what the general consensus of the word would be.
(for examples see Kojo)
Seriously going to bed.
This is why I will be honestly not be replying to any other posts.
But (and I know this is a bit unfair, given I will literally be switching off after hitting the post button), but how about this for the official strap line for CQN?
CQN – “Less bigots than rangers sites”.
(Hit the post button, and let the moral indignation begin).