Neil Doncaster has uttered the words “Prima Facie” more often than any other figure in public life since February when Celtic Quick News first asked if Rangers EBT payments were declared to the football authorities, almost always after the words “we don’t know if there is a”. While we are all assuming the SPL have now established Rangers have a case to answer for illegally registering footballers for over a decade, it’s important to hear the words.
Rangers refused to submit information to the SPL for three months and only did so under the duress of a deadline, but we don’t know what they have submitted. I have been concerned that Rangers would simply try to brass the entire episode out, submit the contracts the SFA and SPL already had, and deny having any record of side agreements.
Consider the clubs modus operandi in recent months and years. Sir David Murray provided cover in March, categorically denying side contracts existed, while the current men in charge have been too busy to spare much time researching the issue. A response of “We don’t have any information” would not have surprised me. Rangers submitting full information – including details on the side letters which exist but which the BBC do not have – would surprise me.
The SPL should have realised months ago they would get nothing from Rangers without a deadline but they are in awkward position if the answer from the club is not what is expected. It’s far from clear that they can take evidence from the BBC and may require information from the First Tier Tribunal verdict to substantiate what everyone knows. The verdict is unlikely to confirm any names.
Until Mr Doncaster says “Prima Facie evidence exists” we should not assume this episode is on track to be dealt with.
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blantyretim on 2 June, 2012 at 00:15 said:
Nor I u.
T4
Mrs BT loves the kindle
those young ones with their new fangled ideas…o))
I was at a party last week, and got talking to a good chap, who was also a frequent reader on CQN like myself.
“Great site” says he.
“Aye”, says I, “I don’t go on as much now, as I used to, because there are too many bigots allowed free reign on CQN for my liking”.
He stuttered and stammered and said, ” This isnt FF or RM, how can you possibly say there are too many bigots allowed free reign on CQN!!!!!!!!!”
“Well”, says I, “Kojo is a bigot, and he is fawned over by the majority on CQN, including the host. And Kojo is a bigot”
“Well”, says my new chum, “that is only 1 poster”
“Correct”, says I, “And one bigot is one too many”
Time for a wee break from this site I think. Too many bigots.
And the only posters who I actually want to read are now on twitter.
Fairwell 31003 and No. 2 son, you are in good company on this site.
Elidor69
are you on Cqn to make apoint or just talk crap like me..?
RRC you still around?
just in from backshift,been scrolling back and see talk of Apollo gigs etc,we did a few of them i recall.
TTTT,
kindle is great because your no lifting weights,
howmany times hae you put a book down because it got a bit heavey
If anyone else on here has read the collection and recommend anything else, its only because they are snobs :o)
31003 on 2 June, 2012 at 00:22:
Good for you!
Morning bhoys, warm, stressed, but hun free.
Not had the best day or so, the wifes new pup is blessed that he is still breathng, a feckin campo dog got him last night.
The stress got even worse when one of my big dogs done the campo dog.
Not what I needed, got the pup back from the vet’s tonight, some state, but he is a wee fighter is Murphy.
Thinking about all the music gigs etc earlier
I saw some amazing Celtic games growing up as well
1967 Scottish Cup Final
1969 Scottish Cup Final
Celtic 5 Red Star 1
Celtic beating Rangers 3 times in the space of 4 weeks, the last one 3-2 Wee Jimmy outjumps Peter McCloy to score with head
European Cup Semi Final at Hampden 1970, complimentary tix from a certain Mr. Auld
The game against Dundee Utd when JJ threw his shirt at Big Jock and all that followed
Celtic 6 Hibs 1 Final
Celtic 6 Hibs 3 Final
Celtic 1 Partick Thistle 4
Celtic V AC Milan, Inter Milan (the Dixie penalty), St. Etienne, Ajax
January 2nd 1971, my first time at Ibrox
so many brilliant games
31003 on 2 June, 2012 at 00:22:
Let it all out.
31003
language mate.. how can I tell mini BT in the morning…
zimmerman
Yo. we sure did, and a lot of Celtic games as well Bud
31003 on 2 June, 2012 at 00:22:
You will feel better in the morning.
31003 has always been a good contributor to CQN from my time reading these hallowed pages.
I think there is a communication issue here and he is being misunderstood, or the developing point he was making was not realised.
Don’t worry be Happy.
Keith & Michael check this out…….
http://www.amazon.com/Simple-Pleasures-Bobby-McFerrin/dp/B00000DQW7/ref=pd_bxgy_m_img_c
blantyretim on 2 June, 2012 at 00:22 said
Well, I was in lurk mode as normal, hen saw the “I’m not a racist but” story that was supposed to get us all thinking, and felt compelled to respond.
Really wish there was an edit button for those of us with rubbish keyboards
Good night, John Boy.
Good Night, Mary Ellen.
RRC
first cup final…
Celtic 6 Hibs 1..
going alone? big Billy last final(game) in 75?
I tried posting a few days ago but the site didnt let me, so this is for the poster that was looking for Bayern tickets and hopefully he’ll read back.
A group of us were in Munich January this year, we got tickets last minute no problem from the viagogo website (just google viagogo and fc Bayern), picked the tickets up at the stadium and watched the game from behind the goals. There were a few tickets being sold outside the ground but maybe a risk if there’s a lot of you going.
A few had said on here that it’s impossible to get tickets but it was a doddle for us and the ground was full so you should be fine.
Great place Munich, would recommend it to anyone. Great people and beer (horrible food).
I think that it is both wrong,and insulting to claim that the conditions faced by Irish immigrants,during the 1800’s,in places like the slums of the Five Points district of New York are even remotely similar…to the relative Valhalla,in comparison that today’s immigrants to both Britain and Ireland reside in.
That should be the ground WASNT full
Petec
Thank you
Bhoys, Paul67 has rules on CQN. Now my language is probably as bad as anyone on here but please remember that many of the posters allow their children to read these pages.
Elidor69
I think that most times I post as will 31003 tomorrow when P67 gets a hold of him..
What is the Stars on 2 June, 2012 at 00:17 said
Film adaptation? Gangs of New York.
Bill “the butcher” CSC
Buddy Morrisey
Don’t know ye…….don’t want tae know ye…..scroll on by…
hamiltontim on 2 June, 2012 at 00:32 said:
Exactly mate
HH
THE EXILED TIM
Hail Hail Murphy, a definite Celt.
31003,
poor canamalar patter, there are so many alernative ways to say things
I read your initial post and had absolutely no problem with any of the meanings or sentiments, point being, I have no problem with anything you said :o)
now come on, a bit of imagination with your profanities’s all we ask:o)
Hd a quick scan back earlier.
74 and 76
Knebworth
Pink Floyd 74 I hitched from the NE of scotland, took me about a day, took about 3 days to hitch home.
Stones 76, got a lift half way, the car broke down in Newcastle, met a lovely lady there, she came to the festival with us, the beautifull relationship lasted all of a week, those were the days.
One thing that still sticks in my mind about the Stones one was the Teepes, they were awesome, so much so I made one.
DarkhorseCSC
Sixteen Roads toGolgotha
that was me (irish immigrants New York 1840s)
It wasnt meant to be serious.Two themes going on ,recently read books to recommend and the 31003 racist/not racist row,
So i threw a little light hearted comment at the end of my book recommendation.
Lighten up old chap
Low Life by Luc Sante is both the original,and the definitive book written about those slums in New York.
Bundoran
…and your language is worse than most!!! :-)
I agree…..through anger my language tonight has been atrocious……and to those who it was directed to…..I do not apologise…..but for all my profanities I do not think they were as bad as calling someone a racist….by whatever means….who does not deserve it….
hamiltontim on 2 June, 2012 at 00:36 said:
WHAT THE *^*&* YOU TALKING ABOUT? ;-)
HH
Friday Frank
No its a new book,(gods of gotham)
Yes it has it similarities to Gangs of New York (which was a dreadful movie in my opinion) the book written back in the 1890s ( i think wasnt bad)
The Banished Children of Eve by Peter Quinn is probably the best book I read about irish immigration in New York (covers the period around American Civil War/Draft Riots etc)
BT
Celtic 6 Hibs 1 final was 1972
Dixie’s hat trick final
1974 Final was Celtic 6 Hibs 3 maybe that one? Another Dixie hat trick.
Joe Harper scored a het trick for Hibs that day also
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on 2 June, 2012 at 00:34 said:
Sir….to you I apologise…