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Doubt remains until we hear the words Prima Facie

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Neil Doncaster has uttered the words “Prima Facie” more often than any other figure in public life since February when Celtic Quick News first asked if Rangers EBT payments were declared to the football authorities, almost always after the words “we don’t know if there is a”.  While we are all assuming the SPL have now established Rangers have a case to answer for illegally registering footballers for over a decade, it’s important to hear the words.

Rangers refused to submit information to the SPL for three months and only did so under the duress of a deadline, but we don’t know what they have submitted.  I have been concerned that Rangers would simply try to brass the entire episode out, submit the contracts the SFA and SPL already had, and deny having any record of side agreements.

Consider the clubs modus operandi in recent months and years.  Sir David Murray provided cover in March, categorically denying side contracts existed, while the current men in charge have been too busy to spare much time researching the issue.  A response of “We don’t have any information” would not have surprised me.  Rangers submitting full information – including details on the side letters which exist but which the BBC do not have – would surprise me.

The SPL should have realised months ago they would get nothing from Rangers without a deadline but they are in awkward position if the answer from the club is not what is expected.  It’s far from clear that they can take evidence from the BBC and may require information from the First Tier Tribunal verdict to substantiate what everyone knows.  The verdict is unlikely to confirm any names.

Until Mr Doncaster says “Prima Facie evidence exists” we should not assume this episode is on track to be dealt with.

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  1. topkat on

    Yes was at the IOW fest..didnt realise it was so long ago…the who came on after sly and family stone..there was mr jimi h…santana…shwady wa..joni mitch…didnt have a ticket ,,but was able to watch from a focal point like being in the north stand…then over the hill was the beach…my mate returned from the beach woke me up and said come on down..”You wont see anything like this for as long as you live” real flesh….woodstock didnt have a look in.

  2. miki67 on

    Catching up on what’s being thrashed out here tonight : I may not agree with what someone says,but I will defend to the death their right to say it.

     

    If someone/anyone is upfront about what is on their minds it can be challenged or disagreed with.

     

    It’s the hypocrites,backstabbers,doubledealers and those with ‘forked tongues’ whom I despise.

     

    Y’know the kind…..? Like the political technocrats and sociopaths running the world right now. They are the ones who disseminate the idea that it’s okay to ‘spin’ everything so no one knows up from down.

     

    Also,what was ‘acceptable’ 50 years ago is not so now,and what is ‘acceptable’ now will not be so 50 years hence.

  4. tarrant on

    petec

     

     

    hows tricks, did you enjoy the end of the season? Never got to a game myslef, so I’m due a few next yr. Enjopying the long drawn-oout dmeise of the Boche, the hubris and arrogance is breathtaking. Any concession to admiiting wrongdoing, accepting the consequences of their choices, would allow me as an empathic human to find forgiveness and help them move forward. As I watch their intransigent Ian-Paisley-and-David-Trimble-marching-on-Garvaghy-Road attitude, and their refusal to see that attitude as the main obstacle to their progress, I can’t decide if they shoul dbe pitied, despised, or rescued. They show no willingness to be rescued if it involves change; they know that changing means suffering, even if suffering for them means no trophies for a few years – while watching us thrive; so they are to be despised. Are the huns beyond hope? I truly hope so.

  5. Tricoloured Ribbon on

    A can of worms is well and truly opened tonight.

     

    Get your hands on a book simply called Paisley by Ed Maloney and Andy Pollak.

     

    I have read it 3 times.The amount of Catholics lying in their graves through the ranting,raving and to be blunt lets murder the taigs campaign carried out by this bigot beggars belief.If anyone wants the book I’ll give them it free if they can’t purchase it.

  7. petec on

    Friday Frank on 2 June, 2012 at 01:24

     

     

    BMCUWP is a poster who leads by example in this respect, it takes time to Grow.

     

     

    The Comfortable Collective on 2 June, 2012 at 01:16

     

     

    Hail Hail my Good friend in Celtic, the Bilderberg is not as controlling as the CFR IMO.

     

     

    Roll on the new season and a well drilled 3-5-2 to take Europe by surprise. ;))

  10. petec on

    tarrant

     

     

    Hi m8, I hope ye are well yer good self.

     

     

    The end of season could have been a lot better if we had not been cheated out of the Cups, I’m not greedy, what Neil achieved this season was pricelsss, even losing both cup games. Neil will utilise both these events to make sure we win a lot more in the future IMO.

     

     

    I cannae wait for Europe, we are going to have a good go at it I am sure.

     

     

    The MSM (control) free version……..

     

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo4OnQpwjkc

  11. miki67 on

    Thinking about it; if you look up the word ‘bigot’ in the dictionary, there you’ll find a picture of Paisley.

     

    HH! and goodnight to all of you.

     

    :- )

  14. kitalba on

    gallagher

     

     

     

    Thanks for that, had a quick read on what they were about and they are to be ordered.

  15. tarrant on

    The Reverend Doctor’s past is despicable and that cannot be denied. His acts, and the encouragement he provided to others, is clearly documented and to my mind he has never been held accountable.

     

     

    Yet…

     

     

    He met Martin McGuinness on an equal footing and entered into government with him, arguably a bigger sacrifice on his part than on MMcG’s, because of its inherent acceptance that NI is a failed state and is on its slow but inexorable path forward.

  16. Tricoloured Ribbon on

    Paul,Do I detect the Huns from a totally out of the equation situation last night,to getting levered back in again?

  20. petec on

    zimmerman on 2 June, 2012 at 01:36

     

     

    A decent point.

     

     

    A link that has the hidden 666 (WitchCRAFT) symbolism straight away. CRAFT means Freemasonry as much as anything else.

     

     

    Trilaterals over Washington.

     

     

    A book that is quoted regularly, although I’ve never read it.

     

     

    An Adobe pdf extension.

     

     

    http://sandiego.indymedia.org/media/2006/10/119694.pdf

  21. petec on

    Friday Frank on 2 June, 2012 at 01:45 said:

     

     

    Pete C

     

     

    4 2 3 1 when it matters. 3 5 2 at home.

     

     

    HH

     

     

    ———————————————————

     

     

    I like it, Victor and Beram as screeners would be Fantastic IMO.

     

     

    James and Georgios will be Massive players for us away from home next season.

  22. tarrant on

    petec,

     

     

    there was nothing to be learned from the hertz game other than the old lesson about scoring enough to make the ref irrelevant. Didn’t happen, and the penalty decisions were a reminder of what we will continue to endure.

     

     

    The league cup, to me, was a tactical failure by Neil. We weren’t aggressive enough and we didn’t adjust our approach early enough. Learning curve. No big deal. If the same thing happens next year, then I’ll be critical.

     

     

    I’m pleased with how we did in Europe this year, and I’m encouraged by Neil’s willingness to be flexible with formations, and by how often it’s worked out for him.

     

     

    Fkit, let the other teams have the cups. As it turned out, this season should highlight that Scottish football sans le Boche will not necessarily be a procession for us, and it will not be the predicted disaster.

  25. Tricoloured Ribbon on

    Tarrant,

     

    That is more than fair comment and he knows the vote for Sinn Fein is rIsing North and South of the border,eventually,the tide will turn.The facts are there.Tiochfaidh Ar La.

  26. The Singing Detective on

    Petec.

     

     

    Seems racism is a one-way street on here…

     

     

    I recall that a certain poster linked a ‘special version’ of GSH’s “Whitey’s on the Moon’,which is widely regarded as an anti-white racist rant…

     

     

    The same poster,on another occasion,posts a youtube link to a track ‘which reminded him of the first time he got lucky with a girl…’

     

    “I had to settle for a white girl,going against my standards,because that was all that was ‘available’ at the time….”.

     

     

    In between these posts,he had made other postings which might give you a certain impression…

     

     

    One post consisted of a mere two words,”I’m Black !”.

     

     

    Have to say….I was quite puzzled by the intentions of this poster.

     

     

    Was he on the wind-up ?

  30. The Comfortable Collective on

    Just whistle racism on here and old Kojo comes a running, slithering and a slabbering. An ol’ faithful dog. More to be pitied than scolded. Not his fault he aint house trained.

     

     

    “The Singing Detective on 2 June, 2012 at 02:02”

     

     

    Rather proves my point. Good grief. Nighty Night.

     

     

    I’ll read the impotent replies when I next log on in two weeks time (chortle).

  31. petec on

    The Comfortable Collective on 2 June, 2012 at 01:59 said:

     

     

    Here is audio that will help your Fine self and others realise a bit more about what is going on currently (especially) and what has been going on in the past. Bill Cooper used Mr United Nations, Manly Palmer Hall a lot in his Mystery Babylon series, plainly because he was the most prominent producer of Masonic literature.

     

     

    http://mediaarchives.gsradio.net/radioliberty/051712d.mp3

     

     

    United Nations – One World, with the emphasis on Earth Worship.

     

     

    Thou Shalt Not Have Any Gods Before Me.

     

     

    Hail Hail

  33. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    tcc,

     

    whats the general consensus about the meaning of the word

     

     

    bigot

  34. Sixteen roads to Golgotha on

    Moonbeams WD. Kano 1000 \o/ Supporting Neil Lennon 100%. Champions. on 2 June, 2012 at 02:12 said:

     

     

    All the best MWD.

  35. petec on

    Moonbeams WD. Kano 1000 \o/ Supporting Neil Lennon 100%. Champions.

     

     

    All the very best Big Chap,

     

     

    HH

     

     

    Glasgow Celtic Champions indeed.

  36. Coneybhoy on

    Pogues on BBC4, Sally maclennane, magic.

     

    Stiff records bands on BBC.

     

     

    Didn’t realism how eclectic Stiff were. Always saw them as new wave, bit if ska.

     

     

    Belle Stars are on now, and Tracy Ullman earlier. Pure pish music mixed with Pogues and Madness.

     

     

    Learn something every day.

     

     

    Pogues back on with Charlie Mulgrew!

  37. tarrant on

    Tricoloured Ribbon

     

     

    I of course amn’t spealking for P67 but he’s never here at this hour on a Friday night,. this is the preserve of the dope-smokers, religious nuts, insomniacs, lunching Antipodeans, lonely Americans. Et al.

     

     

    Anyway, the huns are toast. They can’t achieve a CVA. No one is sure who owns the football ground located in Govan. The Big Tax Case is yet to declare, which could move their official debt from slim chance to no chance. Slim chance, by the way, is the proposed CVA, which says if we owe you £1000, we might pay you £90, if things work out OK. If we owe you £1000000, we might pay you £90K. That’s supposed to be alright – if you’re a huns creditor, having worked on their ground maintenance regularly for many years taking it on good faith that such a pillar of Scotland’s establishment will see you right, you’ll take that £90 instead of the £1000 they owe you? Or, when you see tonight’s news, that the heroic Huns players, who – before administration – courageously crashed out of Europe twice to teams who between them accumulated 2 points in the diddy league in which Celtic managed 6 points, in a group with 3 seeded teams; bravely bottled it to Falkirk in the League Cup; were 15 points ahead in the SPL – are now back to full pay, which in some cases is c£10K per week!

  40. petec on

    The Singing Detective on 2 June, 2012 at 02:02

     

     

    Hello m8,

     

     

    I’m not really getting your point, unfortunately, I have to skim read CQN to keep up on a quiet day.

     

     

    I’ve definitely missed the fraca you are talking about but I always love reading your insights into players, they are a real credit to this site IMHO.

     

     

    HH m8

  42. The Singing Detective on

    Petec.

     

     

    Situation in ME getting very dangerous..

     

    If it kicks off,it will collapse the World Economy…but perhaps that is the plan.

     

     

    We should not get in the least involved..not worth the bones of one British Squaddie…

     

     

    Warsclerotic blog

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