Congratulations to Dundee FC who return to the top flight of Scottish football for the first time in seven years. Back in the 60s Dundee were a top European team. They won the league in 1962 and in the preliminary round of the European Cup they trounced West German champions, Cologne, 8-1 at Dens. Cologne put a more respectable face on the aggregate result two weeks later, winning 4-0 in front of 40,000 fans.
Dundee went on to beat Portuguese champions Sporting Lisbon 4-2 on aggregate in the first round proper, this while Portuguese runners-up, Benfica, retained the European Cup only five months earlier. If the Cologne result was the most enduring in the collective memory, the 4-1 win over Sporting at Dens was one of the all-time great results in Scottish football history.
Anderlecht were next victims, losing 1-4 in front of 65,000 fans in Brussels before the fairy tale ended in the semi final against eventual winners, Milan, at a packed San Siro. A Wembley final against Benfica was Milan’s prize, a tie Dundee would surely have fancied.
The result against Cologne is historically the most impressive but this was not the case at the time. This was a period before the Bundesliga when West German teams participated in regional leagues, with the winners playing-off to enter the European Cup. Once German teams were able to join a financially prosperous league instead of being shackled by historical custom, they never looked back. Dundee, like all Scottish clubs, are disenfranchised from the history they could be creating by the poor value of their TV market.
It’s time for a change, not just for the sake of Celtic! If only the guys running the show knew the history and heritage of the team promoted today, or believed in the potential of Scottish clubs.
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laffin my head off here
hhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19SLSVoDqTc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Celticbhoy
Don’t worry,….. God’s P*ssin himself too !
Hail hail
Celticbhoy
happy anniversary, captain
best wishes to you and the good lady
fine effort !
con rebel there’s a good boy. good doggie con good bhoy
The Battered Bunnet on 16 July, 2012 at 23:29
said:
SFTB
Sorry, my post earlier was a bit rushed, and clearly didn’t make the point clearly.
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I read your post earlier and thought it very insightful as to how some rangers fans are and will feel. I enjoyed reading it.
TopCorner
on 16 July, 2012 at 23:39
said:
Celticbhoy
happy anniversary, captain
best wishes to you and the good lady
fine effort !
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Cheers bud found it difficult in the beginning especially coming from my family which took everyone on their merit. I felt a bit like the bhoy named Sue.
The bould bhoys….. Tá ár lá anois on16 July, 2012 at 23:38
said:
Celticbhoy
Don’t worry,….. God’s P*ssin himself too !
Hail hail
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Cheers pal. I don’t take their nonsense anymore. The pay back was good during the MON years but this is sweet. They are hurting … nice isn’t it. Some l feel for but the bitter ones are just twisting inside.
Celticbhoy,
you get less for murder :o)
happy anniversary and enjoy many more
hail hail
It would be about that for me too but about 15 year ago we went to a wife swapping party, I got a microwave and still deleriously happy
hen1rik, 23:09
Been a quiet day
Rebelz
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on 16 July, 2012 at 23:50
said:
Celticbhoy,
you get less for murder :o)
happy anniversary and enjoy many more
hail hail
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Some of its been murder mate but that’s married life at times. The guy l go to the games with text the same idea about getting less for murder as he is in the CID l could ask him for some tips on how to get away with it (he says laughingly as there are too many lawyers on this site ).
Take care.
O.G.Rafferty on 16 July, 2012 at 23:52 said:
hen1rik, 23:09
Been a quiet day
Not like you matey you usually have something for us lol.
Celtibhoy,
getting through the problems is what bonds you.
hail hail
sftb 22-37
good post fellow Dom.
give me a clue who ye ur.
Did you play in Doms 67 league winning team?
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South Of Tunis – at least you have hair for the beastie to fly into.
spare a thought for Gordon Smith.
Anyways,
Just been to the vets, and in a bad news day he tells me my wee dug “Rebel” is suffering badly, toxic poisining , and needs to go the the big kennel in the sky.
We have an appointment next week, for the end of days.
I will miss the wee fella. Those days running along the beach. That time he chased the squirrels up a tree and managed to jump up into the branches himself. Then there was him running out the door onto the ice and sliding doon the road.
Filling up here.
Anyways, I took his collar , his wee tartan coat, his bowl, all with the “Rebel” name on them, and ive got myself a NewDug 1088, and given all these things to him.
Remember that day NewCo Rebel, when we ran along the beach …………
well thats what Gordon Smith told me, its defiantely the same dug.share on F’book or Twitter
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrdinaire on 16 July, 2012
I would not swap my with for the world….but l could use a good microwave.
Bigamy is like monogamy you have one wife too many.
hen1rik, 23:57
maybe the quiet before the storm
Hiya from the holidays
Great this… I love Spain and the Spanish… Saw my first drunk Spanish guy tnight, on this holiday anyway. To be fair, it is the wee towns siesta.
I even tried a tango with la mujere… Its like the ole four feet fandango, but lasts longer
Ole
I wonder how the Div 3 clubs will enjoy the spotlight of 4 pages of their league in the rags every day…
SFTB
Just been reading some of your wisdom tonight. I haven’t completely caught up with all the posts as I’ve been skimming after what was a tiring day for personal reasons.
Anyway. If my neighbour is anything to go by, semantics or no semantics, my big smile and his fear of eye contact (even though I know he can’t miss the emerald green t’s I’ve been wearing of late in his peripheral vision) says it all for me.
He knows they are deed.
I know they are deed.
What’s not to like.
Puuuuuuuuufffffffffffff.
Aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh.
MWD
JimmyQuinnsBits
Where in Spain are you?
The hills here reverberate with civil war echoes, but the people are resolutely silent about that period. Too much pain i guess.
How they fought, killed, and died in this heat is beyond me. I walked eight miles today and well and truly knacked.
A wee memorial in the hills, deafening silence, and the sheep graze.
Celticbhoy,
Asturias.. Cantabria tmorrow
The fact that we’re embracing it all really sticks in the SFA’s throat though.
ANOTHER GEM FROM SEVCO MEDIA ,THERE TALKING ABOUT DOING ANOTHER MANCHESTER THEM COME AWAY WITH THIS
Spot on… Our class and dignity in the face of adversity is driving them mental!
I was out the other night and met an old taigy school pal of mine, he proceeded to ‘give me it tight’ about the 3rd div and hitting me with the newco patter, after a short time and him realising that, a. Div3 was what I actually wanted and that i was looking forward to the adventure, and b. I don’t support the oldco or newco, I support The Rangers he went mental and lost the plot totally. “Why aren’t you going bonkers? ra ra ra ra, whats wrong with you, your in the 3rd div your not meant to be pleased about that” etc…
JimmyQuinnsBits
So right up north.
One day l hope to go round Spain and take in as many games as l can. I am trying to learn some Spanish not easy.
Enjoy yourself.
An electricity salesman comes to my door tonight giving it the big sell, I was swithering because I thought my tariff was a bit high anyways…
Just as we get to the business end my phone goes!!!
“Just can’t get enough” song loud and proud I look down to see who it is and reject the call to continue the business in hand.
I look up to see this guys fizzog FUMING, stops talking and just walks off to the next house!!!
Then it clicked…”I wouldn’t bother going in there mate” I called.
“How no'” he replied
“He’s a Tim too!!! Roon Ye!”
Could not stop laughing
TopCorner on 16 July, 2012 at 23:26
For the last few years, every now and again someone trotts out the “Ian Archer Article”, and hats doft, the line about “permanent embarressment, occasional disgrace” is a belter.
However, I remember the same guy writing a wonderful heartfelt piece in the Evening Times the day the huns signed maurice johnstone. He ended it with some platitude along the lines of “with this signing , we can all now say we support rangers”.
His rational being that because the huns had signed someone who in some warped way could be described in the flimsiest terms as a ‘Catholic’, well that made it all right to get back on the south side bigots bandwagon.
Well, if that was all it took for Archer to be converted to rangers, “all has been forgiven”, then I for one take exception to the reverence with which he is held because he managed to pen a bit of a decent soundbite once.
Celticbhoy,
Wife is Andalucian. Mad as a drunk monkey, but a better wife and mother to our kids i could not dream of.
I like the north, basque country – best food anywhere. Cantabria, asturias, through to galicia is beautiful. The Picos mountains are great for walking.
TET will have better info about the sierra nevada and alpujarras
JimmyQuinnsBits
Cheers for that. Never know one day l might just get to taste some of that great food.
Hasta pronto
Is everyone in bed? Well me to. Night night CHAMPIONS. It’s GREAT being a TIM.
Weefra HH
http://kerrydalestreet.co.uk/single/?p=11595308&t=8707052
I hear tell that the corpulent fantasist,Jabba,has been on the jungle juice and launched into one in The Daily Reckage.
Who cares ? They are beyond rescue,and so is he!
: – )
MIKI67
Would be icing on the cake if both of the above were true.
Though sometimes I wonder whether my aching sides can take much more,I’m always willing to try…..
Ah, dead of the night. Just finished reading back.
Took my young kids out into the sunshine today/yesterday now (yep, we actually got some here for a couple hours) just after the news from Hampden. They played in the park trees, I sat on a bench. It all began to sink in.
What a moment of existentialism under that sweet sunlight as it fought hard to beat off the gathering cloud fluff. We are living in historical football times. What on earth would our Celtic forebears make of this year? What bewildering fantasy of theirs would have to come true to even match our present reality?
It is football which is part of the fabric of Scottish society, NOT that one itinerant club from Govan. And football has had its way. Decades of shenanigans, of bigotry and malfeasance, challenged, finally, and punished appropriately. By the PEOPLE; Ra Peepil defeated by The People.
It has been a long road for us Tims. Longer still for many who have tasted the ingrained bitterness of Hun bigotry over their lifetimes; an epic for those who have suffered real loss and believed this country poisoned beyond redemption. And yet is seems almost suddenly, that the vessel of hate is scuppered and sunk mercilessly.
We do know better; we are aware that the foul seed of generations of enmity will not disappear. But so too do they now know they are ‘Ra Peepil’ in delusion only, that their fantasies of genetic and cultural superiority have been but flimsy psychotic constructs of straw men.
They are lost. The rebels have won, ultimately. And the rebels didn’t need to lift a finger in battle. All the rebels ever did was use their intellects and keyboards to expose the huge lie at the centre of our world. The Hun empirical arrogance did the rest; enemies made in the breath of a threat, empathy dissipated through sheer bitter ignorance.
They will be around of course, the Huns, in their zombie incarnation. There will be retaliation from the remaining loyal brothers in the establishment – Shameless Ogilvie, the referee fraternity, the embittered polis; we’ll see plans afoot for restructure, ludicrous decisions, Celtic fans oppressed…. Yet it is but the wake of the big wave, the doomsayers tsunami which turned out to be but a swell. Their powers are faded, they smell of the bad old days and anachronism.
I sat on that bench smiling and chuckling to myself like some day-release Hun. Watched my wee ones play with some other ragamuffins and realised that classic sentiment expressed in the GB banner ‘Your granchildren will be Celtic fans’ will very likely be a prophecy for my old age. And so I laughed some more.
Borrowed from Wings over Scotland:
Brechin City vs TBC 18 Posted on July 16, 2012 by Rev. Stuart Campbell
Charles Green’s new football club, currently registered under the name Sevco Scotland Ltd, is scheduled to play its first ever competitive game on July 28th, away to Brechin City in the Ramsden’s Cup. Three days after that, on July 31st, a meeting of the shareholders of Rangers Football Club PLC is due to take place.
The purpose of the meeting is to change the name of said Rangers Football Club PLC (the old about-to-be-liquidated Rangers) to RFC2012, in order that Sevco Scotland can then legally be renamed “The Rangers Football Club Limited”. (That name being too similar to that of the old Rangers for the two to be allowed to exist simultaneously.)
An interesting question therefore arises: What will be the name of the team that takes the field against Brechin on the 28th?
It can’t be “Rangers”. It has to be called something. What will it be?
The Sun
By RONNIE MacKAY
Published: Today at 00:23
IAN BLACK last night issued a come-and-get-me plea to Ally McCoist — and insisted he would play in the Third Division.
The former Hearts midfielder had agreed to sign for the Rangers newco if they’d been placed into Division One and the transfer embargo was lifted.
That deal was ripped up and declared void once Gers were condemned to the bottom tier. However Black told SunSport he would still contemplate playing for the Ibrox side.
He said: “The contract will be void because it was for playing in the First Division.
“If they want me in the Third Division, then they’ll have to approach me again.
“I don’t have anything else happening at the moment. I’m unemployed right now and looking for a team. I have a family to support, so I need to get back into work.
“I’m open to offers — from Rangers or anybody else. I’ll see how it goes.”
Black slated those players who decided not to stay on and sign for the newco.
He said: “They’ll have there own circumstances surrounding it. But if they were as close to the manager as they said they were, they could have helped Rangers financially by staying on and then being bought.
“That would have helped put the team back on the map. But they didn’t.
“Looking from the outside, I’d maybe have had that respect for the manager and the club.”
Quick Glance through todays missive…..only up to p.9.
Will check out the rest later.
So Doncaster and Regan and Ogilvie remain.
Mea Culpa on 16 July, 2012 at 13:59 said:
Info on Eric Riley Celtic PLC
http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/people/person.asp?personId=8612283&ticker=CCP:LN
(Includes his Celtic salary etc)
philvisreturns on 16 July, 2012 at 14:10 said:
Misses the good old days of Thatcher Diptheria smallpox multi social deprivation and Hitler.
what else…
Bob Crampsey
Some stuff aboot Dundee
Some side splitters on Ramsdens Chips pawnbrokers and princess Margaret etc
Ernie’s going to compose a list of the most humourless posters on here. That shoud be interesting.
Kojo concurred w/thumbsup on p7. shockaroonie
swindonbhoy on 16 July, 2012 at 17:27 said:
Jairzinho is up there with Socrates. Never to be forgotten
Lets keep focussed
Regan, Doncaster, Ogilvie and Ibrox have to go!