Assuming Sir David Murray was telling the truth to Sky News in March (bear with me), there is a £10m gap between the sum recorded in Rangers accounts as paid to EBTs and the recipients revealed by the BBC last night.
It may be that the BBC didn’t receive information on some Rangers employees but we should also consider what other non-employees received payment from an Employee Benefit Trust, like Graeme Souness, who was employed by another club at the time.
What other clubs’ employees received a piece of that £10m? Was it only Blackburn Rovers? Did they know about it? Did an employee of another SPL club receive payment from Rangers Employee Benefit Trust?
What about journalists? The cosy relationship between football clubs and sports journalists has been one of the most incongruous features of this debacle.
What about officials? Yes, officials?
We know cash went out of the company, we know how much is unaccounted for, we just don’t know where it went. The already-established multi-association nature of these revelations (it involved a club registered by the Football Association in England) puts the matter beyond the immediate scope of the Scottish authorities, which is some comfort.
Many of the facts have been revealed but this will be a story that is still giving a decade from now. Before Rangers disappear into the ether, the authorities (football and other) must use all leverage possible to discover where that £10m went.
I didn’t see a penny. Did you?
I am still trying to digest the enormity of what was revealed last night. This could take a while.
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The Battered Bunnet @ 14 01.
If the cap fits -don it .
Remember watching the debate at the UN re the Iraq War with a pal. Much debate re whether it was Iraq or the US of A that was the Rogue Nation.
Pal turned to me and said —
” Hey — do you think The UN will get round to debating which of Scotland / Northern Ireland is the real Brogue Nation ? “
I dont think Billy Dodds or Neil Mc Cann can keep their jobs either
Both have lied on live television to their respective employers.
Why employ such obvious dishonest people anyway ?
Hail Hail
CultsBhoy loves being 1st forever & ever on 24 May, 2012 at 13:54 said:
Ok wee challenge for CQN ers
Having followed the sorry tale of RFCiA for the last year or so, can any poster think of a potential twist that would amaze them should it materialise?
I’m stuck… Nothing would surprise me now…
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You received a Rangers EBT ?
Can I Have Raspberry On That on 24 May, 2012 at 14:06 said:
Snake Plissken on 24 May, 2012 at 14:02 said:
Why did Sebo not have an EBT?
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He was offered, but every time he tried to sign the deal he missed. They gave up in the end and paid him in flumps.
Paolo ‘ had some dealings also with livingstone plant , kirkton i think , cant remember the aston but i remember the directors bit had a few fancy cars…..
Fortunes Favour Mibbes on 24 May, 2012 at 14:11 said:
Imatim @ 14:05
Not sure of the answers to all those….but I do know Shug Gallus has made preparations for an all-out MIB strike should the need arise.
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2010 Never Again
They better do it quick ’cause they’re running out of time
savo01 on 24 May, 2012 at 12:59:
Do the decent thing.
Pass the information on to someone who will investigate. It shouldn’t too hard for them to get answers if it’s ‘common knowledge’.
There’s a good man.
A sailor who smelled like a distillery flopped on a subway seat next to a priest. The sailor’s tie was stained, his face was plastered with red lipstick, and a half empty bottle of gin was sticking out of his torn coat pocket. He opened his newspaper and began reading. After a few minutes, the sailor turned to the priest and asked, “Say, Father, what causes arthritis?” “Mister, it’s caused by loose living, being with cheap, wicked women, too much alcohol and a contempt for your fellow man.” “Well, I’ll be damned,” the sailor muttered, returning to his paper. The priest, thinking about what he had said, nudged the seaman and apologized. “I’m very sorry. I didn’t mean to come on so strong. How long have you had arthritis?” “I don’t have it, Father. I was just reading here that the pope does.”
I’ll get my boat……….
I fully expect Stuart Dougal and Kenny Clark to be wheeled out to assure us that nothing fishy has been going on and that no Sunday School teachers have dropped their keks in the making of this documentary
HAil HAil
Fortunes Favour Mibbes on 24 May, 2012 at 14:13 said:
Jack Irvine got half a million squid to post here under the moniker Bouncyboy???
He wasn’t even very good at it!
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2010 Never Again
I thought he was always “at it”
timbhoy2 on 24 May, 2012 at 13:56 said:
I worked in both bud.
I set up the place for IBM, I was the original DI guy for it all.
Hundred stories to tell about it all.
Murray, Andrew Murray, John Scott, John Strachan, & others.
Will tell you once the huns are deid.
I remember listening to Shortbread when Dodds was asked outright (by Richard Gordon I think) was he paid through an EBT. His reply was “I was paid in the usual way – no different to when I was at Aberdeen etc”.
He’s a lying wee toad!
2010 Never Again
Message to Jack irvine….. We can smell the fear
Imatim @ 14:22
Certain fakers make me do Simpsonesque shudders and the hair on the back of my kneck stand up. Instinct’s a powerful thing! They are still very easy to spot, but they do try, bless em! :)))
Half Time Tombola on 24 May, 2012 at 14:25 said:
http://soundcloud.com/celticresearch/ebt-dodds/s-ItEEn
listen again !!!!
Hail Hail
Looks like the Russian Billionaire has had enough now he has finally got his hands on the main prize.
Chelsea are set to release both Salomon Kalou and Jose Bosingwa when their contracts expire in the summer.
The club will announce their retained list later on Thursday and both names are likely to be omitted along with that of striker Didier Drogba .
Kalou, 26, signed from Feyenoord in 2006 for around £8m. Bosingwa, 29, was a £16.2m signing from Porto in 2008.
Awe Naw,
I heard Dougall was involved in one of the bids (fake or real, who knows!) on a consultancy basis. None of them even bother to hide their ties, emotional and/or financial, to the woven fabric of the hun.
Is John Brown getting paid for his Scouting?
Firstly noticing I Black is no’ scouting.
Secondly R@ngers are bust so they can’t pay new players.
Last but not in the tiniest bit least they have a transfer EMBARGO.
They have random guys deciding to retire the No12 shirt.
They have Mr Green advising on appeals process.
They have scouts spouting nonsense.
I’m all for informality but whit the heck…
I think —- Billy -” he had acres of time ” Dodds and Neil ” the goalie lost the tragedy of the ball through the air ” McCann -should keep their jobs .
Just 2 more dunces earning their corn in the Confederacy of Dunces that is Scottish football
Saint Stivs on 24 May, 2012 at 14:24 said:
I worked in both bud.
I set up the place for IBM, I was the original DI guy for it all.
Hundred stories to tell about it all.
Murray, Andrew Murray, John Scott, John Strachan, & others.
Will tell you once the huns are deid.
You set it up for ibm ?
Must have been all the good training you got ? ?
along with being pointed to a good Irish folk singer eh ?
Surely you remember messrs boyle and gilmour ? out n out huns .
Chairbhoy
That’s what confuses me – who’s pulling the strings, runnin the show, conducting the orchestra, while Agent Whyte’s in Monaco having dinner with royalty?
There’s always going to be more murkiness to this than meets the eye. It’s a titanic size pool of dirty murkiness.
Awe Naw -Cheers, seen a link being discussed on twitter this morning but wasn’t sure where to find it. Will reminisce (and laugh heartily) when I get home. Don’t think the FFer in my office would be impressed – he’s been strangely quiet today.
Tombola
Saint Stivs on 24 May, 2012 at 14:24 said:
timbhoy2 on 24 May, 2012 at 13:56 said:
do your recall Jimmy Johnstone ? Jaconelli ? Stuart Grey ?
and a mad mad tim who came from Harthill .
When it first started , there was a workforce of about 200, and only these 4 tims.
I stayed at the hotel in Livvy, and played a lot of football with these guys.
It was the 87/88 season and I travelled a few times on a bus out of the Paraffin Lamp.
It wasnt all bad.
SOT
You dont have any guests coming round to your place watching matches then
Awe Naw what does
“eez in his road” mean … .they are playing on a field ?
“beltit”
“chucking it doon”
“tear him a new one”
I could go on and on and on
but these men are clearly illiterate
Hail HAil
The Scottish Premier League has set a deadline for Rangers to hand over key documents relating to an investigation into possible dual contracts.
A request was made by the SPL in March and BBC Scotland has learned they are still awaiting information from the club’s administrator Duff & Phelps.
If the club fail to comply, it is understood the league will look to impose some form of sanction.
The investigation concerns Rangers’ use of employee benefits trusts.
The EBTs are the subject of a long-running HM Revenue and Customs tax tribunal, which could result in a £75m bill for Rangers.
A BBC documentary, ‘Rangers – Who Sold the Jerseys’ – revealed that over 70 players and coaches benefited from the scheme.
Meanwhile, Scottish FA chief executive Stewart Regan says his organisation has no plans to step in to investigate possible dual contracts at Rangers, insisting he will leave it to the SPL.
The SFA will act as the appeal body should one be needed after the SPL investigation.
“I haven’t see the programme but out position hasn’t changed,” said Regan.
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The Raven yip remember them, was in production mtgs with them every day.
A bit off topic ( what’s new for me you might say):
A rare sun kissed week of wonderful summer weather…and in all that time I’ve had to endure the prolonged insane yapping’s of the demented furry rat that passes as a dog next door…its a sort of asthmatic throaty rasp that eventually worms itself into your cerebral cortex…why is it that we, as a society, have produced a generation that cannot control their pets, their kids or even themselves for that matter? Is suspended gratification to blame? I’m close to homicidal despair.
The little rat b*****d sits at the fence next to where I sit yapping incessantly- the Dobie stands over the top drooling at it as it barks in her face- I could easily manipulate a gap in the fence to deliver the rat into the mercy of my dogs crocodile like jaws…God forgive me…I’m really demented.
So if you hear about a unusual method of murder in EK: the person was choked by someone ramming their own Yorkie down their throat- then you know it was me murdering my neighbour…
Forgive the rant.
AsonofDan,
No I’m a guy reporting information I was given and am being attacked for it. Are you a hun?????
ASonOfDan
SPL meet Duff & Phelps
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7355556521411143107
Hail Hail
savo01
do more reading and less reporting I suggest a google
for EBT amnesty Arsenal Rangers
that will provide you with a good contrast
and further material to laugh at the race supremacists .. who can´t read, count or think for themselves … AL THEY WAY TO THE TOP :-))
Hail HAil
Hail HAil
Fortunes Favour Mibdes,
Exactly, it’s like they’ve been told to “entertain yourselves til I get back“
Sav01
I mad a glaring omission … sorry
EBT HMRC amnesty Arsenal Rangers
Hail HAil
What about the motor mechanic,bet he does a load of cars belonging to Tims in Sunny Govan.
The Union Jacks,In his garage,what is it we these folk,brain dead.
savo01
No, but I know quite a few porn actors and they all say it is common practice for them to give out financial advice in their spare time and not declare it as a second job to HMRC. Apparently it is an open secret in the porn industry but no-one is daft enough to declare it. ;0)
The BBC article just put up by ASonofDan is about what we would expect – a deadline (without any info. on when the deadline is) and Regan saying he didn’t see last night’s programme so nothing has changed in how he views things.
So many questions still unanswered but we are certainly making progress and the end game is getting closer. Most of last nights points confirmed what we all suspected based on Paul67 and all the other good people on here’s work, but what made me annoyed last night was the names of Neil McCann and Billy Dodds. Both hold prominent positions in the media and have both been talking up ” save the jerseys” – now we have better understanding of why. Both have not answered questions re EBT honestly – probably not a great susprise.When will get the honesty and transparency that FPLG craves? Only when they crash and burn and bring the full pack of cards down. Lets keep foraging – there must be more to come. No time for complacency or taking the eye of the game. HH
Awe Naw ——
Elderly neighbor dropped by last Monday night . Bearing 6 kilos of Nespole.. I
I was watching ” the highlights”[ sic ] of The Salt and Sauce Cup Final .
He sat down and watched [ smirking ] in silence .
When it was over he asked ” do the players get paid for that ? “
Campbell Ogilvie finally speaks out to a few hand chose journalists.
Chick Young: Campbell just what is it that you want to do?
Campbell : We wanna be free. We wanna be free to do what we wanna do. And we wanna get loaded. And we wanna have a good time. That’s what we’re gonna do
Chick Young: No way baby let’s go. We’re gonna have a good time. We’re gonna have a party
James Traynor: I don’t wanna lose your love. I don’t wanna lose your loveI don’t wanna lose your love. . I don’t wanna lose your love.
Keith Jackson: Campbell Just what is it that you want to do?
Campbell Ogilvie: I’m gonna get deep down, deep down. I said, (I’m gonna get deep down) deep down. Woo hey! We wanna be free to do what we wanna do
Keith Jackson: No way baby let’s go!
Michael Johnston: I don’t wanna lose your love. I don’t wanna lose your love.
Campbell Ogilvie: We wanna be free to do what we wanna do . Ahhh yeah
Hail HAil