Europa failure would compound acute challenge for also-rans

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I’m not going to laugh at results against Luxembourgers or Lithuanians – it’s not so long since Gibraltarians bloodied the nose of a team who went on to become invincible treble winners. Scottish clubs have a long history of pitching up in June and July wholly unprepared for European football.

These results only retain the ability to concern if they are not resolved by remarkably improved performances. Brendan Rodgers’ Celtic grew in stature last summer until they became a competitive Champions League team in the autumn. Others may do the same this season.

What will be clear long before the lottery of the European play-off rounds, is where the gaping chasm exists in Scottish football: are Celtic our only team competitive in Europe, or is there at least one other?

Neither you nor I care who competes in the Europa League, but failure there if Celtic progress to the Champions League will compound an already acute challenge for the Scottish also-rans.

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Episode 2 of ‘A Celtic State of Mind’ finds Paul John Dykes and Kevin Graham discussing a variety of topical subjects concerning Celtic Football Club, including:

* Callum McGregor: The Youth of Today;
* Death of the Cult Hero;
* Norwegian Wood – Ronnie Deila’s Exit Interview;
* Farewell to The Stone Roses;
* Hillsborough: The Truth.

Paul John Dykes also chats to SFA President, Alan McRae, to challenge him over recent comments made about Celtic’s domination of Scottish football.

Connect with A Celtic State of Mind @PaulDykes and @CQNMagazine or just listen using the link below…

 

 

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  1. I’m not a bigot Ive just eaten an orange.

     

    I did stop drinking McEwans soon as it appeared on their shirts though ……so maybe….

  2. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    TD67

     

     

    Their stupidity is amazing.

     

    They draft in a group of freebies and pretend to their daft fans that they cost millions.

     

    This is at the same time that they have to rejig old training tops for these new superstars.

     

    First game ever in Europe….on a UEFA charge already.

     

    Things can only get worse for them:)

     

     

    HH

  3. kikinthenakas on

    My bhoy loves Paddy but says Charly is a better all round player

     

     

    Kikinthenakas

  4. GuyFawkesaforeverhero on

    Has anyone watched the Confederation Cup matches in Russia this summer? I’d read the IFAB suggestion about referees only being approached by team captains would be trialled during it, yet the only action I remember seeing on tv news was a major rammy which swallowed up an African ref.

     

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    Caixinha has been foolish to charge over the top in the fashion done today.

     

     

    Last season, Sevco only lost three games at Ibrox. I can easily picture them losing three of the first five Ibrox league games played in 2017/18. In such circumstances, he’ll be much more horizontal than vertical.

  5. All this talk of orange and oranges reminds me of the story of Gascoigne when he signed for der hun.

     

    Apparently the Cardihun said to him, ”Gazza if you play really well in the first half I’ll pull you off at half time.”

     

    Gazza replied in amazement, “wi aye gaffer, I normally only get a cup of tea and an orange.”

  6. thetimreaper on

    If the deal for Charly goes through i wonder how Paddy will feel about it. They are the same age and the lad already has experience in La Liga. If we snap Charly up for £5m and Paddy ends up in the City reserves or on the bench at Huddersfield it may prove to have been a big mistake. I should say it may be City themselves that have priced us out of a deal. Either way i have a feeling wee Paddy might be looking to get back up here before long. Unleash the two of them!

  7. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    The Tim Reaper

     

     

    I have my doubts, bound to be plenty of teams in for Charly.

     

    Believe it when i see him in the hoops.

     

     

    HH

  8. Has Pedro forgotten the green in the flags of Portugal and Mexico – I am sure that lots of the peepil will be draping themselves in the flags in support of their players nationality

  9. thetimreaper on

    Things you wont see down Ibrokes way…..

     

     

    Mung Beans

     

    French Green Lentils

     

    Regular Green Lentils

     

    Green Split Peas

     

    Celery

     

    Parsley

     

    Zucchini

     

    Cucumber

     

    Lettuce, all varieties

     

    Chinese greens

     

    Green eggplant

     

    Chards

     

    Broccoli

     

    Brussel Sprouts

     

    Cabbage

     

    Green Tomatoes

     

    Green Peppers

     

    Okra

     

    Green Beans

     

    Green Snap Peas

     

    Fennel

     

    Leeks

     

    Peas

     

    Edamame

     

    Green Olives

     

    Sprouts of all varieties

     

    Herbs

     

    Kiwis

     

    Watermelon

     

    Honeydew

     

    Green grapes

     

    Green Apples

     

    Avocados

     

    Green Figs

     

    Green Pears

     

    Pistachios

     

    Pepitas

  10. THETIMREAPER on 2ND JULY 2017 1:36 PM

     

     

    I have a feeling chelski might regret buying back lukaka

  11. 50 shades of green on

    The only green thing you will find down govan way is Jealousy Jealousy jealousy.

     

     

    H.H

  12. thetimreaper on

    GENE on 2ND JULY 2017 2:28 PM

     

     

    At the £75m quoted yes, would be good to have the option for half of that though.

  13. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    Sevco fruit and veg cash and carry.

     

     

    Blue Cabbages and Sprouts

     

    Blue Oranges and Tangerines

     

    Blue Bananas.

     

     

    HH

  14. Neustadt-Braw on

    AKA Laird of the smiles…this made me smile

     

    If you’re bringing sausages back from Germany you are allowed to put them in your luggage. That’s the wurst case scenario …

     

     

    Braw.

  15. WATP. No green boots.

     

     

    This is what it’s like to be Sevco

     

    This is what it’s like to be small

     

    This is what it’s like when your team means nothing at all

     

    Nothing at all.

  16. weebobbycollins on

    Pog…correct, I had forgotten about him…another scumbag…

     

    Imagine the energy in a room containing King, Johnston and Traynor…

  17. I understand that this morning at Mass Pedro walked out because the priest was wearing green vestments – said he’d be back on the Assumption.

  18. In reply to a couple of posts last night:

     

    Dallas Dallas, yes Renfrew is and always has been a bit of a hun town. I grew up there, left in the 70’s went back in the 80’s and permanently left in the noughties but my family were there since the 1800’s, immigrants of the Irish persuasion.

     

     

    Rhetorical, I didn’t suggest that you had had a sense of humour removal, I just thought you needed to sharpen up your punchlines ;-))

  19. BABASONICOS71 on

    THETIMREAPER on 2ND JULY 2017 2:24 PM

     

     

    Things you wont see down Ibrokes way…..

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Mung Beans

     

     

     

     

     

    French Green Lentils

     

     

     

     

     

    Regular Green Lentils

     

     

     

     

     

    Green Split Peas

     

     

     

     

     

    Celery

     

     

     

     

     

    Parsley

     

     

     

     

     

    Zucchini

     

     

     

     

     

    Cucumber

     

     

     

     

     

    Lettuce, all varieties

     

     

     

     

     

    Chinese greens

     

     

     

     

     

    Green eggplant

     

     

     

     

     

    Chards

     

     

     

     

     

    Broccoli

     

     

     

     

     

    Brussel Sprouts

     

     

     

     

     

    Cabbage

     

     

     

     

     

    Green Tomatoes

     

     

     

     

     

    Green Peppers

     

     

     

     

     

    Okra

     

     

     

     

     

    Green Beans

     

     

     

     

     

    Green Snap Peas

     

     

     

     

     

    Fennel

     

     

     

     

     

    Leeks

     

     

     

     

     

    Peas

     

     

     

     

     

    Edamame

     

     

     

     

     

    Green Olives

     

     

     

     

     

    Sprouts of all varieties

     

     

     

     

     

    Herbs

     

     

     

     

     

    Kiwis

     

     

     

     

     

    Watermelon

     

     

     

     

     

    Honeydew

     

     

     

     

     

    Green grapes

     

     

     

     

     

    Green Apples

     

     

     

     

     

    Avocados

     

     

     

     

     

    Green Figs

     

     

     

     

     

    Green Pears

     

     

     

     

     

    Pistachios

     

     

     

     

     

    Pepitas

     

    ===

     

    Progressive humanity

     

     

    Cogent thought

     

     

    Decency

  20. Pedro demands some re-writes

     

     

    How blue is my valley

     

    The blue blue grass of home

     

    Ann of blue gables

     

    Fried blue tomatoes

     

    Blue beret

     

    My blue tambourine

     

    Forty shades of blue

     

     

    Das Boot

  21. BABASONICOS71 on 2ND JULY 2017 3:09 PM

     

    GENE…

     

     

    I did that just to unsettle any lurking Sevconians. ;)

     

     

    …………………………………………

     

     

    You finally unmasked me :))

  22. BABASONICOS71 on

    Here’s the Herald article,apologies for length of post.

     

     

    THERE was the usual expected trouble when supporters of the Orange Order took to the streets of Glasgow yesterday for their annual Battle of the Boyne commemorations, with several arrests after ugly drunken brawls.

     

     

    But it was the unexpected General Election result and the deal between the Tories and the hardline DUP, that seemed upper most in the minds of Orangemen yesterday. Keeping their hangers-on in line, wasn’t as important as triumphalism.

     

     

    The members of the Orange Order who brought the streets of Scotland’s biggest city to a standstill seemed to have a spring in their step. They swaggered to Glasgow Green with renewed purpose.

     

     

    Thousands gathered in the public park to hear triumphalist speeches which attacked First Minister Nicola Sturgeon and “Republican sympathiser”Jeremy Corbyn, but talked up the rise of the DUP as an indication that “the future is Orange”.

     

     

    Cheers erupted when the crowd was told the SNP “got a kicking” andSturgeon’s plans for a second independence referendum were now “shot to pieces”.

     

     

    The day began at George Square where around 300 people gathered for a low key remembrance service. Children wearing full Rangers strips ran around on the grass while groups of adults sporting orange sashes shook hands and embraced as street vendors sold union flags.

     

     

    The full parade duly arrived shortly before 10am and bemused tourists – unaware of the significance of the procession – took selfies.

     

     

    Hundreds of onlookers followed the parade to Glasgow Green, many of them wearing Rangers tops and swigging Buckfast straight from the bottle.

     

     

    One young woman wearing the football kit said: “We’re a Protestant team and this is a Protestant organisation so we’re connected.”

     

     

    However, another onlooker said the Orange Order don’t want people turning up in football colours because they’re “drunk idiots who spoil it for the rest of us”.

     

     

    Around 60 flute bands converged as the cacophony of whistles and drums grew deafening. Band after band from across Scotland and Northern Ireland took more than an hour to reach the park. The total number of demonstrators and supporters was estimated to be around 9000.

     

     

    The Truth Defenders, the Crown Defenders, the Protestant Boys, the Protestant Martyrs, the True Blues, the Young Loyalists, the Sisters of Truth, the Crimson Star, the Loyal Daughters – these just some of the band names.

     

     

    Well-wishers waving Red Hand of Ulster flags lined the streets. One group had a life size cardboard cut-out of the Queen.

     

     

    Political speeches began at Glasgow Green under “Orangefest” banners but numbers here were fewer than expected, with many empty chairs in front of the stage. Barriers were hastily removed and stewards appealed to people to take empty seats.

     

     

    The leader of the Labour Party the first to come under fire.

     

     

    In the so-called “State of the Nation” speech, Depute County Grand Master Brother Stephen Brown warned that “Republican sympathisers like Jeremy Corbyn and his cohorts continue to plot and scheme”.

     

     

    Brown said seeing Tory MPs unseat Alex Salmond and Angus Robertson “was greeted with delight” in the Orange Order, which brought applause from the crowd.

     

     

    “What a kicking the SNP got,” he said. “As far as the Orange Order is concerned, it could not have been a better outcome. Nicola’s immediate plans for an independence referendum are all but shot to pieces and the sudden rise in stature of the DUP can only be good for Northern Ireland and, inevitably, for unionism and loyalism.”

     

     

    He added: “From an Orange perspective, we can benefit from a situation where our Orange voice can be heard in the highest of courts. Sisters and brethren, the future is most definitely Orange.”

     

     

    The guest speaker was Brother Reverend Mervyn Gibson, Grand Secretary of the Grand Orange Lodge of Ireland, who began by congratulating members who were “elected to public office as councillors and other who do not hide their support for the Orange institution”.

     

     

    He then condemned charities who refuse donations from the Orange Order as “sectarian bigots”.

     

     

    Gibson also took a swipe at the First Minister and the SNP. He said: “You have your own home-grown nationalists to face. Much tamer than our lot but just as determined to see the United Kingdom destroyed. Proud Nicola’s army who the voters just recently sent home to think again. Well she did think again and postponed seeking another referendum. Although it would have been better if she’d taken it off the table altogether.”

     

     

    He ended his tirade by urging members of the Orange Order to stand up against Scottish nationalists.

     

     

    Gibson said: “To defeat their ambition to break up the United Kingdom we need to work together, supporting one another as you supported us during the Troubles.”

     

     

    Alcohol was banned from the gated Glasgow Green but there were no bag checks and many people were drinking.

     

     

    As tension grew between rival factions a group of around 20 young women were involved in a scuffle. Men joined in then police pulled them apart. The aggressors were told to walk away in different directions.

     

     

    A similar brawl involving young men in nearby Saltmarket saw an arrest made for an alleged serious assault.

     

     

    A spokeswoman for Police Scotland said: “Eight people were arrested for alleged minor disorder and alleged alcohol-related offences. A man is currently detained in connection with an alleged serious assault in the Saltmarket.”

     

     

    She added: “We estimate there were 4500 participants and 4500 spectators.”

  23. FOR A PEOPLE AND A CAUSE on

    TD67 nail on the head it’s nothing more than an appeal to the lowest common denominator of the Orc support and that’s a sight you don’t want to imagine