“Frustration” was apparently the order of the day for Celtic as Newcastle’s Leon Best decided against moving on loan for the remainder of the season, despite his club being happy to see him go, while a gaggle of other target-men were apparently courted. Frustration; really?
We have Hooper, Stokes and Pawel Brozek fighting for no more than two forward spots, with Moh Bangura still waiting for his first proper run in the team and Georgios Samaras regularly drifting to the striker role from the left. Different formations also call for only one striker with a creative central player, such as Forrest, Commons or maybe Rabiu Ibrahim.
Hooper and Stokes are both playing well, scoring regularly and will be difficult for Brozek to dislodge, not to mention Bangura. Best, who is neither show-biz nor a player guaranteed to score a barrel-load, would either be this year’s Freddie Ljungberg, or if successful, would be improving his own development at the expense of a contracted Celtic player.
I’m as frustrated as I was the day we lost Marc-Antoine Fortune.
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lochgoilhead bhoy says:
1 February, 2012 at 11:54
Mort says:
1 February, 2012 at 11:22
“The trouble for Ticketus comes if Rangers are liquidated and all they have is a piece of paper saying they own future revenues of tickets that can’t be sold.”
I think there is no chance that Ticketus will just be sitting with a piece of paper. There will be something else secured against the ticket sale/loan which they will call in when it goes belly up.
Security=Asbestosville as Paul ponted out. This is the only asset they have that would provide Ticketus with enough security
gsu
Some top class bear on bear action on FF today. Here is a highlight from a thread posing the question “is Whyte trying to make Ally walk?” (Now I won’t even get into the semantics of walking and waddling):
“You forgot one thing Mr Whyte, Mcoist is an old school bear, he lives by two simple words. No Surrender.”
the retort
“I’d rather AM lived by another 2 words. Win Games!”
I agree, Paul
I was actually relieved when the deadline passed and we hadn’t signed another striker.
Hooper and Stokes have proven their ability in the SPL, Pawel looks like a goal-machine, Sammi is best out wide but it wouldn’t be a hardship if he had to play up front in the odd game, and if all else fails we still have Bangura and (even) Rasmussen to make up the numbers.
Exploitation .
Minty exploited the Hunnish desire for success . He understood the We are The People mindset.
Minty exploited The Edinburgh based Bankers’ desire to help the cause.
Minty exploited the Lap Top Loyal’s unquestioning dumb assed loyalty.
Having found a Patsy he beat it..
The Patsy exploited the Season Ticket money. The Patsy was left to carry the can.
2 Questions remain ——-
Who owns Ibrox ? Who is going to jail for fraud ?.
Wild and wet -way down south.
!!Bada Bing!! pointed out earlier that Dundee Utd still available @ 7/1,8/1 for Sunday.
Better still is an HT/FT double: Utd/Utd @ 18/1 …
Maybe the Kelly’s will buy R**gers and turn them into a Gaelic Football team.
Rogairí Ghlaschú GFC. They could still play in Ibrox as it’s originally a Gaelic name anyway.
The Badgers Lair / sett.
Might see them challenging for the Sam Maguire cup in the near future!
Folly Folly
Indeed, the phrase “not true” is a politician’s classic:
“It has been alleged that I spent Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday of last week as a guest of a foreign billionaire on his yacht near Cannes. This is simply not true. His yacht is anchored at Portofino.”
Remember there was something in place which hid the directors/ownership of Wavetower or whatever they’re called now but essentially the company that held the £18M floating charge. Speculation at the time was that it may be some individuals that would rather not be named.
Is it possible/feasible that the reason that anonymity protection was put in place is not because it is individual(s) with alleged criminal connections, but a perfectly legal entity but which MBB would rather not have it widely known owned part of Wavetower/rfc and the floating charge?…….
…..I give you Ticketus….. hmmmmmmmmmmm
hh
bjmac
Methinks that certain old Board members are making it as clear as possible that, whilst setting up the facility, they did not engage in this transaction.
Why? To try to avoid any suggestion of involveemtn in a criminal act (if non-payment of VAT is accurate).
Methinks that the DR is deliberately involved in assisting this position.
Methinks that some or all of these people now fancy they might be the rightful heirs to a newco.
The King is dead. Long live the King. But who is the King in this case?
Newco 1 = Whyte RFC
Newco 2 = Old Board RFC
Newco 3 = Dave King SARFC
Newco 4 = R F McColl’s RFC
Newco 5 = Park yer Bus RFC
Newco 6 = Return of the Mint RFC
Newco 7 = RST wearrapeepil RFC
Wonder how many applications Neil Doncaster might be asked to consider?
Perhaps the right tactic is for those Celtic men with a wee bit more dosh than me to create as many versions as possible thereby exposing this newco SPL fraud for the connivance it clearly is.
If this were us who would you consider had the ‘right’ to present themselves as the newco and why?
HH
In the midst of all this Rangers going to the wall, possible newco etc will there be an opportunity for Celtic to negotiate selling their own TV rights as opposed to us being tied to SPL group Tv rights.
SadiesBhoy has an eye on “what’s in it for us?”
I just thought up a brand new insult
you are a derryairport :oD
Dont think cause I’m not posting I’m doing nothing, up there for dancing :oD
When the factions become clear in the war for the hearts (hee hee) and minds (ho ho ho) of the Rangers support, are we likely to hear any of their supporters shout “Up the Rebels!” ?
Morning all, was wondering if someone could point me in the direction of what the ragers squad from now till the end of the season?
Keep the faith,
Mtt
Livibhoy @12:39,
The story about the club deck bond did the rounds a few nights ago on RTC. The long and short of it is when they go into insolvency the bond holders lose their place in the season ticket queue (no sniggering at the back) but are entitled to a full refund to the tune of circa £7.7m. The prospect of 5-10% of the total debts in insolvency being owed to your paying customers is what our learned American friends call ‘a game changer’.
Paul67 at 12:35
Mort, Ticketus will have secured rights on sufficient assets (stadium) to ensure they can recoup their investment.
That might be correct but any charge has to be registered with Companies House and I can’t find any record of that associated with Rangers. It may have been from one of his other companies. The only reference to the season tickets at Companies House is that the proceeds of their sale have been removed from the floating charge Craig Whyte holds.
Mort
Gregg says:
1 February, 2012 at 13:00
Very interesting indeed. How many other bond holders are there for other things tho? Did they not have a 20 year season ticket at one time or was this related to the Club Deck?
LB
Could some of our resident financial experts assist?
I note from Companies House website that Rangers FC Group Ltd lodged an update to their statement of capital on 8 November 2011.
Does anyone know what this contains and how it differs from the previous statement?
Ryan O D
Whereabouts in Athens are you going? Central or out by Glyfada. Surely not golfing, not with your swing. .-)
ASonOfDan says:
1 February, 2012 at 12:14
If the FPLG has quit then he might find it difficult to get another job. He hasn’t exactly set the heather on fire with his managerial record.
He isn’t likely to be able to rekindle his TV career – too fat, too baldy. He has a good face for the radio as they say.
Ah there we have it Shortbread or Snyde – never to be found wanting when a job is needed for one of the Bluetones.
TheOriginalSadiesBhoy says:
1 February, 2012 at 12:57
In the midst of all this Rangers going to the wall, possible newco etc will there be an opportunity for Celtic to negotiate selling their own TV rights as opposed to us being tied to SPL group Tv rights.
I made the same point last night. Should Celtic use the threat of pulling out of the TV deal should a New Hun FC be allowed straight into the SPL. What are they going to do throw us out of the league? i’d also like to see the SPL / SFA try and take us to court regarding this – that would be interesting.
oglach says:
1 February, 2012 at 13:09
Good point. I’d completely forgotten that the Sky/Espn contract would no longer be valid. A perfect time for us to act. We might still be bound though by SPL membership and therefore not able to go it alone.
For reasons previously mentioned on here I wouldn’t support a threat to quit in case we’re taken up on it. I would see this as part of negotiations for the restructuring of SPL.
Martin42.
You have mail.
Afternoon all
I spent a few hours on this little ditty last night. I hope it gives you a couple of minutes of joy
I’m sure you all know the song but for the musically challenged…. its to the tune of don mclean american pie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHcIT9DbssI
Hail hail
jc2 says:
1 February, 2012 at 11:14
Thanks for the response, to be totally honest I just want him training as regular as possible (he stays at his Mums through the week) and it is not essential he plays on a Saturday, it is an age where the teams are relatively fixed as you say. If he knew I posted that he wouldn’t go however. ;)
I just want a ball at his feet as often as possible. ;)
He is lucky that he gets to play for a Dumbarton team down here on the Sundays without having to train midweek because the coach is a Top guy, a really good fan of football and a Rangers fan as well.
Need to dash but will catch up when I get back.
Thanks again.
Did Wavetower not just lodge some dodgy limited accounts for a six month period only.
hoopeddreams at 13:06
Doesn’t say anything except that Liberty Capital is the only shareholder with 1 share.
Mort
I DONT KNOW IF ITS JUST ME BUT I STILL HAVE AN UNEASY FEELING REGARDS THE TROUBLES AT IBROX, AS MANY OTHER AULD TIMS ON HERE WILL TESTIFY, THEY ARE A LAW UNTO THEMSELVES , AND HAVE HAD A FREE WILL TO DO WHAT THEY WANT AIDED AND ABETTED BY THE SCOTTISH MEDIA. WE HAVE SEEN IT ALL OUR DAYS WITH THEM , AND I FEEL THIS SCENARIO WILL PAN OUT JUST THE SAME . IMAGINE SPEIRS EVEN HAVING THE ARROGANCE TO ANNOUNCE THAT “THE GOVERNMENT WOULDNT ALLOW THEM TO GO DOWN” THEY WERE GOING TO LET US GO DOWN . I WOULD FEEL MORE SECURE IF UEFA WERE HANDLING THE FOOTBALL SIDE OF THIS CLUBS PROBLEMS , AND KEEP SCOTTISH HQ OUT THE DEALINGS ALTOGETHER , THEY ARE NO FRIENDS OF CELTIC F.C . WE MAY HAVE A RIGHT LAUGH AT THEM AT THE MOMENT BUT ,ILL BE SURPRISED IF THIS IS CUT AND DRIED . I WOULD ALSO LIKE OUR OWN CLUB TO KEEP UP TO SPEED WITH WHAT WILL BE TRIED TO KEEP THIS OUTFIT AFLOAT TO THE DETRIMENT OF ALL OTHERS . I WONT LOSE A MINUTES SLEEP IF THEY DO GO TO THE WALL , BUT THEY ARE TEFLON COATED AS FAR AS THIS COUNTRY IS CONCERNED . HOPE TO GOD IM WRONG .
HAIL HAIL
JIMTIM.
new article posted.
Bhoys,
At work and can’t access betting sites. Can anyone advise on current best price Celtic to win the league this year?
Ta
TBGATB
Heard Guidi complaining last night about callers that “they remember what you said four years ago and quote it back at you.
Got me thinking about how many of us scoffed on here when he got the scoop from Minty about the regeneration plans for Ipox and the surroundings.
I think we should now call up and apologise because it looks like there might be a casino and a wee row of shops on Edmiston Drive a lot sooner than we thought.
Afternoon all,
Feel like I’m missing something re Best. Why so much antipathy?
I agree with Paul that a loan move for Best didn’t really make sense. On the other hand, i’ve seen a bit of Best this last couple of years and he is impressive in movement and workrate. He lacked a little confidence at EPL level but has found his feet. Has youth on his side. He’d have been a great permanent signing with genuine upside.
I get why some think 2nd rate EPLer and all that tabloid thinking, but, football is played on the park and if you watch him play he has a lot of the attributes we normally admire. Anyway, maybe we’ll be back for him in the summer, and I’d like to know what ‘other’ reasons we may not. He’s not good enough for an aspirational Newcastle…
P67 / Bhoys
Not read the blog today but a couple of things caught my eye here & on Twitter
Mort @ 11.36 & CQN retweet
I have since sent a couple of ‘Rangers Fast Facts’ to a Darkside pal.
These are:
1. With Lafferty and Naismith injured Rangers current available top scorer is “Owen Goal” with 4.
2. Season ticket money already gone BANG:
23,154 in 2011-12
27,017 in 2012-13
27,014 in 2013-14
23,154 in 2014-15
Any suggestions for some further light-hearted wind-up/fun for my (or your) pet Orc?
hhplc
As far as I’m aware governments are not allowed to get involved with football club business.
It is a absolute no-no with Fifa &Uefa . Scotland would be bombed out of all european and world football competitions.
So the h**s will have to look else-where for some help.
oglach says:
1 February, 2012 at 13:09
Funnily enough…..
This came up on RTC in the wee hours the other night. There is an article on E Tims at
Can IPTV Save Celtic?
and the table in it has subsequently been updated to take Rangers out of the equation. The sums are all estimates of course and in the updated table at
Celtic Individual TV bargainning
You could substitute Hearts for Rangers and assume the income might increase by 50% as opposed to 100% with Rangers as in the orginal.
I’m not saying it all hangs togther but it supports your point that losing Rangers is not necessarily a total loss of TV revenue if viable alternatives can be found.
Abmucker says:
1 February, 2012 at 11:47
I agree with most of what you’ve said. It’s clear there is now a race against time to get as much dirt thrown at Craig Whyte by the old board to ensure HE gets the flack when bankrupcy hits. There are just weeks till the FTT is announced and Moonbeams will be praying the smelly stuff hits the fan before then.
If it does then the tax case will be glossed over and history will be re-written that Craig Whyte was responsible for taking the club under and not Sir David Murray (knoghthood intact unlike Goodwin). If Whyte keeps them stumbling until then then, then its the Tax Case that spells armageddon. The timing is absolutely crucial and it’s running out.
I noticed the FTT just held had been delayed from a previous date in November. I’m sure this was procrastinating on the part of Moonbeam’s legal people to buy more time. It certainly wasn’t Whyte’s doing as we all know he has no control over the Tax Case.
You talk about “them” coming back though. I don’t know if you mean Paul Murray/King etc, but there is no way I can see David Murray returning. He simply won’t have the financial clout to massage his ego like he did in the 90s.
I think he will settle for stitching Whyte up in the media and walk away able to say “not my fault”. He gave them 30 trphies after all and Whyte chose to buy from him ;-)
It’s pefectly obvious his “Doctor’s appointment” was connected to this.
Meant to add, Whyte must be praying they LOSE the Tax Case. Then he is exoected to actually keep the club afloat and has no excuses. Perhaps Murray knew this and that is why the contracts stipulated that Whyte had no involvement in the defence.
Hey Eurochamps,
no plan at the minute, only have flight booked. a wee last minute thing…
def not golfing, i keep getting embarrassed when i am asked why i need 100 golf balls for a long weekend at immigration ;-)
HH
weeminger says: 1 February, 2012 at 11:01
cavansam \o/ says:1 February, 2012 at 10:57
“Apart from that is it not directly against UEFAs ruling that national govt/courts should not become involved with football? UEFA would bar Scotland/Scottish clubs from entering their competitions. The govt definitely would not want that on their hands.”
If UEFA bar Scottish clubs, then that stops us getting the Champions League?Europa money… Scottish establishment not only bails out the bankrupt Hnns but finds a way to impede us financially?!?
STOP FEEDING MY PARANOIA!