Has this squad hit the ceiling or can we control, pass and move better

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You and I both knew before last night that Salzburg are well ahead of Celtic, so a 3-1 defeat away to the top seed surprised no one.  However, the game itself provided positive, as well as disappointing aspects.

Odsonne Eduard looked a handful when running at defences.  His goal and the chance he created a minute before the break typified this.  For all Salzburg’s ability, they looked weakest in defence.  We looked like we could put the ball in the net every time we got near then, which, admittedly, was seldom.

That aside, Eduard’s distribution was as poor as the rest of the teams’.  There were two distinct phases to the game: before Salzburg’s third goal and after.  After this point, the home team did not press nearly as forcefully, which allowed Celtic to find men with passes and retain possession.  This merely demonstrated how poorly we did so earlier in the game.

Prior to then, passing and movement lacked the confidence needed to play out from the back.  For example, Salzburg did not mark defenders in front of or at either side of the box when Craig Gordon took goal kicks in the first half.  Despite having three options for an easy pass, Craig kicked long the majority of the time – by definition into areas with fewer Celtic players, as we had three back at the penalty box.

The goalkeeper just didn’t fancy the consequences of passing to an unmarked defender – the story of the game in metaphor!

Dedryck Boyata was the outstanding Celtic player on the park.  He won everything in his vicinity and I even noticed him chasing down a ball he had himself headed clear, before others reacted.  But, on one occasion, when Craig chose to send a goal kick straight to him, he panicked, lost possession and conceded a chance in a dangerous area.  There was an easy pass back to the keeper.

You do not need to be Iniesta to work the ball out from the back.  You need to be able to control and pass, while everyone in the team needs the awareness to move into space, ensuring no one is boxed in.  This takes lots of practice and confidence.  We are correctly working towards this kind of football, but we’re not there yet, even in the SPFL.

The pertinent questions is, has this squad hit the ceiling or can we control, pass and move better?  I’m sure we can improve, although perhaps only by degrees.

I know what you were thinking every time Salzburg got a corner kick, “Here we go again” – or was that just me?  Instead, we defended set-pieces well; in fact, it was the home team who conceded the two best chances of any type before the interval.

James Forrest tucked in well on the right.  He got unfortunate with the bounce at the penalty, which was correctly awarded.  No complaints at the red card either, although I could squabble that Dabbur, who was already cautioned, should have received a second yellow on the two occasions he displayed a Tshirt message after his goals, if the referee followed his guidelines correctly.  Pedants CSC.

The football business is all about the next game and right now there is nothing on the horizon more than St Johnstone on Sunday.  Lick your wounds and get a result, Celtic.

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  1. Neganon2

     

     

    “Circumstantial evidence is a very tricky thing. It may seem to point very straight to one thing, but if you shift your own point of view a little, you may find it pointing in an equally uncompromising manner to something entirely different”

     

     

    JJ

  2. Jobo, you could be onto something there with Izzy at LB. Seem to remember that he scored one of his (very) few goals there, and it was indeed a joyous celebration! Here’s hoping… HH

  3. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    NEGANON

     

     

    AULDHEID isn’t the enemy,mate. Come to that,the board aren’t the enemy either.

     

     

    The huns,therefs,the SFA/SPFL,there sir is your enemy.

     

     

    Now,you know I’m in the camp that wants more action by the board,but let’s not lose sight of who the REAL enemies are.

  4. 5-1 the good ghuys.

     

    Right Pub tine, if anyone is in the Howgait formerly the Lee then come over and I will buy u a pint. Just ask for Davie.

     

     

    5-1 to the Tic

     

     

    COYBIG

     

     

    D :)

  5. BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 7th October 2018 11:43 am

     

     

    NEGANON

     

     

    AULDHEID isn’t the enemy,mate. Come to that,the board aren’t the enemy either.

     

     

    The huns,therefs,the SFA/SPFL,there sir is your enemy.

     

     

    Now,you know I’m in the camp that wants more action by the board,but let’s not lose sight of who the REAL enemies are.

     

     

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    Truer word never said.

     

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4smim2MNvF8

     

     

    Rage Against The Machine – Know Your Enemy

     

     

    KEEP THE FAITH

  6. calm down bhoys, everytime we give big scorelines it comes back to haunt us, id take 1-0 and 3 points right now.hh.

  7. As I said to my youngest Bhoy we don’t have to defend against shitty teams like St J, they’ll shut up shop. I would have Gamboa and Izzy bombing down the wings with Sinky paired up with Izzy as he does not ‘work’ with KT. So my team would be:

     

    Gordon

     

    Gamboa Boyata (Benkovic/KT) Izzy

     

    Morgan Mulumbu Ntcham (Rogic/Christie) Sinclair

     

    (Griffalo/Edouard)

  8. So we played Hibernian in the league cup semi final last season. Tickets were split 50/50, they didn’t sell out but refused to give us the surplus. Fast forward to this season, Aberdeen demand 50/50 but get told to GTF. They then roll over. What a Hun infested sh*** hole we live in.

  9. Strongest fit and available 11 today. Twice BR has fielded weakened teams in the league this season, twice we’ve lost. Hope he sticks with Edouard and Griffiths, partnerships take time to click.

     

     

    Gordon

     

    Lustig Boyata Benkovic KT

     

    Mulumbu Ntcham

     

    Forrest Rogic Edouard

     

    Griffiths

     

    Subs Bain Hendry McGregor Morgan Kouassi Sinclair Johnston

     

     

    Expecting a mind numbing, turgid 1-0, hoping to be surprised with a free flowing 3 or 4 goal win.

  10. Leaked team, or leak team

     

     

    ————————Gordon———————-

     

     

    ——Hendry. Boyata Benckovic———-

     

     

    Forrest. Mulumbu Ntcham Tierney

     

     

    ———Rogic Edouard——————

     

     

    ————Griffiths——————

  11. Aberdeen have told the SPFL they “do not agree” with the way in which they are being ask to sell tickets for the League Cup semi-final with Rangers.

     

     

    The Pittodrie club will receive 16,800 tickets for the Hampden tie, with a promise of an extra 4,400 in the North Stand should they have strong sales.

     

     

    But the club say fans will be denied the chance to buy “the best seats in the stadium” from the start.

     

     

    “We believe tickets should be allocated on an even split basis,” said the club.

     

     

    “The club has fought hard to argue this point with the SPFL in recent days when the initial plan indicated we would not receive North Stand tickets.”

     

     

    Hearts against Celtic moved to Murrayfield

     

    Dons programme nails down retro remake

     

    Aberdeen were “strongly against” being asked to play the semi-final at 12:00 GMT on a Sunday, when no trains would have arrived in Glasgow in time for the game.

     

     

    While they say they welcome the change in kick-off time to 16:30, they feel an even 50/50 split should have been offered up front.

     

     

    “Given the fantastic travelling support we have, we feel it is imperative all our fans are offered the opportunity to enjoy this football spectacle from some of the best seats in the stadium,” said Aberdeen chief executive Duncan Fraser.

     

     

    “This will be a tremendous opportunity for Aberdeen FC to play a leading role in the country’s biggest ‘Super Sunday’ for years and a great footballing occasion for all involved.”

  12. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    STSTIVS 1224

     

     

    Decent enough statement from Aberdeen,point made. But here’s a wee question to consider.

     

     

     

    Scottish football has official club statements coming out of its ears,all complaining about various iniquities inflicted upon them by the SFA/SPFL.

     

     

    Methinks a wee game of Spot The Common Denominator is in order.

  13. DAVID17

     

    Aberdeen didn’t sell out their allocation for the Betfred final two seasons ago, that’s why they won’t be given a full allocation up front. They are being given blocks of tickets from the corner of the Main/East stands round to the North Stand, same as they did with Motherwell last season (only from Main/West stands). Aberdeen want to sell North Stand seats first as they perceive them as better than those behind the goal. Sell the tickets they’ll get the full allocation, don’t and they are given to Sevco (us last season) to sell. For once they are using common sense and doing the right thing.

  14. BIG PACKY 1 on 7TH OCTOBER 2018 12:26 PM

     

    Lustig does need a rest but we didn’t sign the right back the manager wanted in the summer. Gamboa isn’t even close to being a good enough defender so we will continue to flog Lustig until the winter shutdown. Tierney is our best (only) attacking threat from wide, given our lack of chances let alone goals, he needs to start, knackered or not.

  15. Hot smoked. Not sure what you are referring to but there are people who try to complicate relatively straightforward positions. This is generally an attempt to deflect or disguise the straightforward and justify the unjustifiable.

     

     

    Bobby have a think about what you said. The board, apart from calling us criminal racists, are actively supporting the Hun and the continuity myth. They time and time refuse to call out cheating, corruption and when Celtic fans are attacked they are actually in the vanguard.

     

     

    They are our enemy. solidly our enemy. And they are the worst sort of enemy. The ones who pretend to be part of you but destroy you from within.

     

     

    They are the first enemy we need to tackle. All the rallying cries in the world are pointless unless we tackle them first.

     

     

    The board are destroying us.

     

     

    Thereafter we have the small problem of an institutionallly racist country (who frighteningly want to be independent).

     

     

    Paul67 is our enemy too. He is a first class hypocrit. Peddling board lies whilst beingyschophantic to the Hun when he gets tv appearances.

     

     

    Know your enemy.

  16. Tam Rogic last influential game was against Livingston on opening day.

     

     

    We are on to match 10 now. Time to get going big man

  17. BMCUW

     

    Tony Rome

     

     

    Thanks for trying to point Neganon2 in the right direction.

     

     

    He has no idea of what is taking place, but that does not stop him being a dick and if he carries on in his ignorance he will become such a big dick he will be observable from the moon.

  18. weebobbycollins on

    Play KT on the right and Izzaguirre on the left…let KT cut in and shoot/cross with his good foot…

     

    We have to try something a wee bit different…

  19. My New England trip finished with a fantastic whale watching experience yesterday. Off to Hamilton Ontario for a few days for a long awaited visit.

     

    Will be in the air when game is on.

     

     

    COYBIG

  20. I’m sure if Aston villa inquired about Brendan Rodgers about him being the new manager,and the budget and salary,were fine with him ,it’s a cert he will leave Celtic,and who can blame him, especially after the way Lawell and co, messed up with the targets, Brendan wanted,pity it wasn’t Lawell they were looking at,then hopefully Dermot Desmond sells on his shares and leaves Celtic ,and can any of you Bhoys out there,any ideas who could take Desmond’s place.

  21. weebobbycollins on

    Auldheid…you can see lots of dicks from up there…Stevie G, Dave King, Alex McLeish, the Celtic Board and more prominent than even the Great Wall of China -Big Fat Stupid Derek Johnston…

  22. Now got a decent site to watch all the Italian and Spanish fitba so get it up ye Eleven sports

     

    Btw See that Bruno Alves is now il Capitano of Parma and having quite a decent game against Genoa

  23. Interesting to see what the travelling support will be today

     

    Wednesday mornings mail bring me a letter saying sorry but nae luck in the ballot for a St Johnstone ticket

     

    Wednesday afternoon then sees me getting a e-mail saying we kno ye had nae luck in the ballot but we have now had an amount of tickets unsold or handed back could you pretty please take them aff our hands ya mug

     

    No thanks methinks Coco jaffa cakes and game on telly wins it

  24. NEGANON2 on 7TH OCTOBER 2018 1:12 PM

     

     

    I’m sure the moderator will deal with your post auldheid.

     

     

    Rally round that.

     

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    Ooooooh.

     

     

    You dish it out but when you get a response its “Mr Moderator Auldheid is calling me names.”

     

     

    Chew on this from an informed person.

     

     

    tommy

     

     

    @Tomtheleedstim

     

    Oct 3

     

     

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    Celtic have been presented with plenty of evidence of discriminatory behaviour by the SFA/SPL/SPFL in the past but choose THIS issue as the battleground! This is what we get @CelticFC when we appease rather than fight. #resolution12

     

     

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    Who do you think has presented the evidence? The Tooth Fairy?

  25. Incidemtslly auldheid the problem is I am aware of what is going on to the point that I wonder about your position in all of this.

  26. Auldheid surely CQN doesn’t have double standards in terms of what is moderated? Or do you have infinite patience for name calling?

     

     

    What Celtic are doing something? What behind the scenes? What not telling anyone? And we will never hear anything more about it?

     

     

    Oh right I feel soooooooooooo much better.

     

     

    Tripe.

  27. NEGANON2 on 7TH OCTOBER 2018 1:22 PM

     

    Incidemtslly auldheid the problem is I am aware of what is going on to the point that I wonder about your position in all of this.

     

     

    You cannot know everything because you would have nothing to wonder about if you did.

  28. Remember that time Mciness demanded a 50/50 split when we played them at Hampden. Not this time Del boy. No Media support i guess.

  29. NEGANON2 on 7TH OCTOBER 2018 1:25 PM

     

     

    Auldheid surely CQN doesn’t have double standards in terms of what is moderated? Or do you have infinite patience for name calling?

     

     

    What Celtic are doing something? What behind the scenes? What not telling anyone? And we will never hear anything more about it?

     

     

    Oh right I feel soooooooooooo much better.

     

     

    Tripe.

     

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    Happy to let the Moderators decide how to deal with it but its about time I started calling you out when you have a go at me. For example:

     

     

    Where does it say in that Tweet Celtic were doing anything behind the scenes? Did it not say the opposite?

     

     

    The point too complicated for you or does it not fit in with your view that you have to interpret it to suit hat view?

  30. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    NEGANON 125

     

     

    Well,some of us are quite sure that we are refereed differently by the mods!