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  5. Ten Men Won The League on

    Forster saves us again with a brilliant save one on one with griffiths

     

     

    Covering Celtic players nowhere in sight

     

     

    Dreadful defending

  8. praecepta on

    Groundhog Day!

     

     

    praecepta says:

     

    26 October, 2011 at 19:56

     

     

    Caught on break – where was Wilson? Everything coming down our right where Mathews should be playing. Good save big F.

  11. navanbhoy on

    well done there forster (although it did look more like luck than good goalkeeping) on another point is that 10 fouls already by hibs and not 1 yellow card?

  15. RobertTressell - Vote Yes for Strike Action on 30th November on

    RobertTressell – Vote Yes for Strike Action on 30th November says:

     

    26 October, 2011 at 19:57

     

    philvisreturns says:

     

    26 October, 2011 at 14:19

     

    RobertTressell – Vote Yes for Strike Action on 30th November – Thanks for the explanation.

     

     

    I’m not sure how anybody can come to the conclusion that there isn’t a “black hole” in public sector pensions in the UK.

     

     

    There is, for the simple reason that these pensions are mostly unfunded.

     

     

    “Unfunded” means they expect to be paid directly out of future taxes, since there isn’t, alas, some huge pot of money that has been accumulating through investment and compound interest over the years to provide for public sector retirees.

     

     

    With an ageing population and the government trillions of pounds in the red, some hard decisions have to be made.

     

     

    You should count yourselves lucky you’re only being asked to contribute 3.4%.

     

     

    I also have to pick you up on this point: in fact the average public sector pension is less than £7K a year…….)

     

     

    Strictly speaking this is true, but it is not the full truth.

     

     

    The £7K figure only applies when you include all the part-time and temporary public sector workers who get pensions. (The madness of the taxpayer being expected to provide pensions for part-time and temporary workers probably is lost on you). The average full time career public sector worker will expect to receive much, much more than this every year, on considerably better terms and with much better protections than exist in private sector pensions.

     

     

    Now, you ask whose side I am on?

     

     

    I am on the side of the taxpayer. I am on the side of the honest, hardworking people who make this country function, without whom there wouldn’t be any taxes to fund public services in the first place, and who have to carry on their backs a vastly bloated public sector we can no longer afford, full of bolshy malcontents raging at the suggestion they should contribute a modest sum towards their own gold-plated pension schemes.

     

     

    We are not a nation of deserving cases. We are not a nation of social workers, or of clients of social workers, or of municipal diversity outreach co-ordinators, or telephone sanitisers, or what-have-you.

     

     

    We are a proud, fierce nation and it is time we returned to the simple values that made this country great: courage, self-reliance, and hard work. That is the only way we can build a better future for ourselves and those who come after us, not through whingeing and striking and self-entitlement.

     

     

    Anybody working in the public sector who doesn’t want to be part of the solution is free to find employment elsewhere. No doubt their talents will be suitably rewarded in the martketplace.

     

     

    (thumbsup)

     

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    Part of the solution? We didn’t create the problem. Chasing Tax avoiders, making the bankers pay back what they took from the economy, proper taxation of the wealthy elite – all of these will solve the problem that the banks and tax avoiders have created.

     

     

    You see Phil this ‘crisis’ has been to some extent created. It is a redistribution of wealth – upwards. It is a way of forcing economies to strip their public sectors and open as much of the economy up to flows of capital as is humanly possible – with no regard for the consequences.

     

     

    You tell us we are not a nation of (fill in the blanks) but your great heroine margaret thatcher deliberately made the UK exactly that when she deliberately dismantled the major manufacturing industries in order to destroy organised workers. Hoisted on your own petard there my old chum.

     

     

    Striclty speaking my £7 average figure is absolutely spot on. Do you think that people collecting a pension only do so part time? The average is £7 K that is a fact. that is what some people have to live on plus whatever state benefits they are entitled to. The changes to the pensions are going to cost most people thousands and thousands of punds over their working life and their retirement. that is a fact.

     

     

    can you tell me what contribution the banks have so far made to solving the economic crisis that they created? My sources indicate that in the UK since 2008 they have received £275 Billion of tax payers money. Can you tell me what sacrifices the millionaires row that is the tory front bench have made to show that we are ‘all in this together’?

     

     

    DO you really believe your own hype or do you just like the wind up?

     

     

    As for counting ourselves lucky to only have to pay 3.4% the real figure is 9.7% or thereabouts. We already pay 6.3% I think. And again – the government has not increased the amount going in to a pension pot that you claim has a black hole. Projections are that the pension pot is enough as it stands. Some even suggest there will be a surplus. The amount going in to our ‘unaffordable’ pensions is remaining the same. So how can it not be a lie that it is ‘unaffordable’?

     

     

    Meanwhile Celtic are playing and I can’t get watching it for various reasons. Have to go and I really hope you get to read my reply.

  23. john_bhoy74 on

    Why are we playing as if its two minutes left of the SECOND half??

     

     

    Suicidal tendencies from this team sometimes – still 45 to go for heavens sake

  26. Headtheball on

    We are such a bad team. This is so sad.

     

    Expect Collum to show the first yellow to a Celt to clamp down on all the fouls.

  30. Philbhoy - It's just the beginning! on

    Forrest crosses, badly, to Hooper who has four men round about him.

     

     

    Paddy on please.

  38. navanbhoy on

    just as i praise forster he shows why i don’t rate him by staying on his line and refusing to come for a cross, a man of his size should be killing EVERYTHING that comes near the 6 yard line.

     

     

    2nd hals get paddy on for forrest and give them all a serious kick up the arse

     

     

    Cmon Celtic

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