Jock, Martin, Gordon and Neil

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You remember Celtic manager, Gordon Stachan, third manager in our history to win three-in-a-row?  Took us to the Champions League knock out stages for the first time, did much of this while comparative economics were moving against us, remember him?  Is he the same Gordon Strachan who has transformed the Scotland national team’s results?

Gordon is unequivocally a successful manager but his Scotland team is performing far better than I thought possible when he took over what looked like a poisoned chalice.  The most stunning fact of his record there is that they have not conceded a goal in three successive away games.  Gordon’s Celtic covered 15 months, across two championship winning seasons, without keeping a single clean sheet away from home, no matter how lowly or distressed the opponent.  Even good, experienced, managers learn, especially from their earlier troubles.

Jock Stein is viewed mostly through the prism of 1967 but during his final season as Celtic manager, 1977-78, the sentiment among many in the support was decidedly downbeat.  Rangers (remember them, played in blue, I think?) would win their third title in four seasons, with two trebles thrown in for good measure.  Celtic finished fifth in the league, Jock’s judgement was widely called into question.

At the time Leeds United were a top club in England and after Celtic sacked Jock they moved to secure him.  Leeds had no doubts as to his abilities.  A little over a month later the SFA offered him the Scotland job, which he took and excelled at, twice succeeding in World Cup qualifying campaigns.  His talents were without question but stood in sharp contrast to how many in the support viewed him a few years earlier.

I don’t know if Jock was a better manager in 1982 and beyond than he was in 1978 but there’s a decent chance his football education didn’t stop when the trophies dried up at Celtic.  Gordon Strachan is, like Jock was until the end, a student of the game.  Neil Lennon is too, he is also receiving some of the reviews his illustrious predecessors would recognise. Gordon was an excellent Celtic manager but he’s better now, perhaps as a result of life’s experiences along the way.

It’ll be really interesting to see how Euro qualifiers reflect on the comparative progress of Gordon and Martin O’Neill, who for my money was a better manager than Mourinho when the latter deployed some of the best players in the world against Celtic in Seville, and needed to deploy every underhand trick in the book to come out on top.

I was blown away by the stunning contributions to our Mary’s Meals campaign yesterday.  First in was an incredible £200 + £50 gift aid donation, followed by others, large and small, every one appreciated.  Ignore those who would tell you society is dead.  You can get involved here.

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  1. On the subject of sportsman’s dinners attended one at bowling club ( sorry its my hun mate) nr shettleston pre – Xmas. Tosh McK was great that night he gave it to the masons tight. Attended same night one year previous Murdo was on the bill had high hopes but he was a disgrace lowered himself to laughing at Danny McGrain via speech impediment jokes more than once that night (ive since heard thats his thing). Headline that night was ex – ‘Well failure/old ned John Geohaghan Who? – exactly ). Typical hun jokes re nuns etc you know the rest. As for Murdo was a hero of mine – sadly no more.

  2. Anybody know Billy no’well

     

    Could you ask him to finish off

     

     

    Wake up Sally

     

    I think I’ve got something to say to you

     

    It’s late season and you’re playing ‘s poo

  3. Its a bit of a non story given their income is largely dependant on season tickets.

     

     

    “man pays car loan with wages!”

  4. The Token Tim on

    Il Padrino,

     

     

    never seen Murdo so cant comment, but have seen John Gahagan on several occasions and he has been very good. Excellent the last time in fact.Id recommend him any time and indeed have done to others for their sportsmans dinner’s.

     

     

    Not sure where the “old ned” part comes from in relation to him though. Never came across like that to me, and he certainly wasnt that type as a player!

     

     

    HAIL! HAIL!

     

    Token

  5. Marsappa

     

     

    I think you are getting confused with the interest portion (£150k) of the loan which has been reported as being turned into shares

  6. Notthebus i picked up the story wrong , nothing unusual for me , i thought they (Rangers ) got the money and in return Laxey partners would receive shares

  7. Delaneys Dunky on

    IP

     

     

    Went to school with John Gahagan.

     

    Good tim and a gentleman. Old ned??

  8. Geordie Munro on

    Jackie Mac

     

     

     

    Naebdy laughs at yer jokes

     

    God knows who taught you to coach

     

    Oh Sally I can’t watch any moooorrre

     

    You lured players in with dosh

     

    And you reeeealy love your nosh

     

    You blew a 15pt lead and that must reeeeaaly hurt.

  9. Geordie Munro on

    Ip

     

     

    I’m with the others here. Been at a few good nights with murdo and jg.

     

     

    I’d try Peter Kaye next bud ;)

  10. Murdochaulandhay

     

     

    Cheers , i just found it weird they mentioned it ontv outwith the news .. Again guys thanks for putting me to the wise .

  11. TET if you’re about here my very “safe” low odds 9 fold

     

     

    Basel

     

    Ankaraspor

     

    Vaduz

     

    Wil

     

    Real Madrid

     

    Real Sociedad

     

    Cliftonville

     

    Westerlo

     

    Derby County

     

     

    And my picks from the leagues:

     

     

    Orduspor

     

    MERSIN İDMANYURDU

     

    KARŞIYAKA

     

    Bursaspor

     

    Servette

     

    Barcelona

     

    TRENČÍN

     

    PSV

     

    Ajax

     

    Atromitos

     

    Panathinaikos

     

    Dortmund

     

    PSG

     

    Monaco

     

    St Etienne

     

    Standard liege

     

    Lokeren

     

    Salzburg

     

    Wolves

     

    Brentford

     

    Braintree Town

     

    Juventus

     

     

    Left the cup games out as league form easier to predict but stand outs are:

     

     

    Aberdeen

     

    Man City

     

    Sheffield United

     

     

    and the mighty

     

    Albion Rovers

     

     

    HH

  12. Delaneys Dunky on

    IP

     

     

    Tosh McKinlay went to my school too. He was a good guy too, like JG.

  13. Hamiltontim is praying for Oscar on

    Apparently Albion Rovers have sold their allocation of 1,400 for Ibrox Tesco on Sunday.

     

     

    I’d imagine there’ll be a few floating supporters amongst them!

  14. Geordie Munro on

    dd, course it’s no. Just a cheeky wee jibe pal.

     

     

    HT,

     

     

    Oh I hope there isn’t. ;)

  15. If 10 CQNr’s give me your season ticket money, I promise you I will pay your season ticket money not only this season but if you give me it again, next season, I promise you the same deal.

     

     

    T’s & D’s apply.

  16. Hamiltontim is praying for Oscar on

    DD

     

     

    I’d be surprised if that happened but I’m sure the odd green, white and orange flag will make an appearance :-)

  17. il Padrino

     

     

    That’s the second bit of bad chat I’ve heard about Murdo in the last few days.

     

    Rapidly descending my hero list.

     

    Listened to Jock Brown on Harry Brady’s show. He blamed Murdo for unsettling Wim, always agitating and after more cash. He said that although he rated Murdo as a coach, he didn’t as a man.

     

    Now his bad patter about Danny.

     

    Very very poor all round

  18. Geordie Munro on

    Burghbhoy

     

     

    Ach it’ll be the appendage and surgeon joke.

     

     

    Nothing to get het up about.

  19. WeefratheTim on

    HT

     

     

    Where have you been hiding? :-)))

     

     

    Weefra HH supporting Wee Oscar

  20. Delaneys Dunky on

    HT

     

     

    For sure, Republican Clydebank will be supporting Republican Coatbridge on Sunday ;)

  21. I’m Padrino

     

     

    Geohagan was a ‘speaker’ at Tommy Boyd’ s testimonial dinner some years ago. His and all the other contributions were a master-class in bad taste – it was like a degenerates’ night out. To top it all I saw MON ambushed in the Thistle toilet at the end of the night by aggressive drunks instructing him on strategy.

     

    Even worse was last year at the Port Glasgow Town Hall. Cowan vomited out foul mouthed filth and just in case that wasn’t enough he put the icing on the cake with a funny about vegetables and the paraplegic athletes at the London Olympics.

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