I have two significant concerns about Walter Smith’s comments yesterday. He spoke about the events which followed Rangers liquidation in 2012:
“There was no necessity for Rangers to be put down into the Third Division.
“That will always stay in Scottish football. There will be a bitterness in the Rangers ranks. It will be a massive motivation for the club. It would certainly be for me.
“How can they forget what happened to them? Nobody could forget that.”
I’ve spoken to people at Celtic about security concerns ahead of the weekend. The game itself will almost certainly pass off without incident, but what happens on the streets of Glasgow and surrounding towns is anyone’s guess.
You will hear nothing even close to inflammatory from Celtic, senior fans groups, or anyone who cares about the club’s fans and wellbeing. Justifying bitterness due to (mis)perceived persecution ahead of this fixture is inciteful. I’m astonished Smith said this.
On his subject matter, let me give you an alternative scenario:
Newco Rangers are parachuted straight into the Premier League, hundreds of creditors are abandoned, they have a full squad of players and are not a penny in debt. They would have been out signing players within minutes of registration (they even tried to sign a player while still in administration).
With Oldco having won the league accumulating debts they would never pay in 2009, 2010 and 2011, Newco, free of legacy financial commitments, would have an excellent chance of winning again in 2013 and beyond.
This plan was one strand of Craig Whyte’s lunacy and it would have killed Scottish football. Celtic, and others, would have been left to consider, do we pay these millions of debts, or liquidate and spend the money on players instead? I had this very conversation with a senior figure in the game in October 2011, when the realisation of what Whyte was planning became evident. Utter mayhem would have ensued.
The damage done to the Rangers brand of clubs by allowing Newco access only to the bottom tier was huge. It’s consequences are yet to be appreciated by most fans. Newco may never win a top flight league.
But the question was not whether to impose a trauma on ‘Rangers’ or allow everyone to carry on as we had before, this was not an option. It was whether to allow the existing rules and processes to stand, allow responsibility for the enormous mismanagement of Rangers to be carried primarily by Newco, and have other clubs deal with the fallout, with or without a ‘Rangers’ club in the league.
Whyte’s plan replicated what he’d done in other industries, but it would have devastated Celtic in particular. We were beaten for years on the field by a team who could not pay their bills or correctly register their players, then we would be beaten again as they walked away from debts without consequence, which is why I wrote this article in October 2011 on the Prepack route for Rangers Newco.
Pretty much all of what I wrote about in that article came to pass, it had to be stopped (and you’ll never know the key movers in doing so). Smith should consider if the boot was on the other foot, if he would be happy to allow his club to be subverted in the manner he suggests would be good enough for others. It was simply never an option.
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Eddie
Glad it went to a deserving cause
STV
Headline: Managers praise Hampden new pitch.
Stubbs: It looks good but we will find out what is like when we play.
The Edinburgh PFI schools all looked nice, too.
Is Paul 67 sending out a message that he can’t be arsed reading/refereeing a blog full of pensioners bickering?
There it goes again – BBC – “administration for the CLUB” (Hearts).
Good Evening Timland.
The enemy’s at the door and we are each other’s
throat’s.
A way tae listen tae radio shortbread.
Goodnight Timland.
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 14TH APRIL 2016 5:47 PM
Just reading back,glutton for punishment at times.
I have to say,if a hun on FF had suggested that Res 12 was being funded by money-laundering proceeds of crime,we would be outraged. And rightly so.
But it was suggested by KILL ULTRA at 338pm,as follows…
“So it doesn’t matter if they are being funded from the proceeds of drugs, illegal sex industry trade, or God forbid, Celtic Plc. My money is on the latter.”
I hope that sticks in the memory of anyone defending his attacks on the resolutioners over the past few weeks.
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You have quoted me out of context. Why don’t you post the full text of what I said? You know very well I used deliberate exaggeration to make the point.
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EDDIEINKIRKMICHAEL on 14TH APRIL 2016 6:11 PM
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS that’s not what KU is saying and you really do know that. Poor post mate.
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EDDIEINKIRKMICHAEL: Go raibh mile maith agat.
67Heaven .. CHALLENGING THE LIE ..I am wee Oscar…… Ipox belongs to the creditors on 14th April 2016 5:29 pm
Just back from a wee holiday and decided to watch the Barca replay on BT TV ….. How disappointed will Barca have been to be denied that stonewall penalty at the end of the game
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True but , on the other hand , Iniesta should not have been on the pitch. His handball for the Atletico penalty was a red card every day of the week and twice on a Sunday…
Aye, but you still are calling the Res 12 bhoys liars.
The actions of a scumbag IMO.
WITS if you’re about, going to Ayr races at the weekend and like most of us on here I’ve no clue about the Gee Gee’s, any tips for Friday ?
Spiers on Stubbs – “a lot of what he says isn’t convincing”.
Pots and kettles, Graham….
THE LONG WAIT IS OVER on 14TH APRIL 2016 6:40 PM
Careful, I’m one of those argumentative pensioners mentioned earlier ( though, to be fair, oim still woiking ….hahahaha)
Spiers showed glimpses of being a strong moral person.
Actually that’s unfair. He has been, from time to time.
Ultimately he caved and is often glib and a touch craven
HH jamesgang
Kill ultra your rambling, the real press are going to come along & sort it all out eventually ?? So in the meantime they will incite, ignore, lie & validate crime & crimes ? Aye ok then.
West end of East end.
I have good word for clondaw warrior in the Scottish champion hurdle on saturday. I backed it each way at 10 / 1. It’s into 6s in places. They are expecting a big run
Can we not just let the Res12 leads get on with tieing up any loose ends and get the case lodged (the day before tomorrow would not be to soon but I know that in legal matters all the ducks have to be lined up).
If anyone seriously believes that CFC has contributed financially (chance would be a fine thing) then surely a Shareholder can enquire of the Finance Department at Celtic Park.
I, for one, trust the Resolutioners when they say that expenditure to date has been met from their own, or from a wellwisher. I have not been asked to contribute but would do so willingly. I didn’t see any mention in the Panama Papers of Res12.
Let’s just leave the Res12 bhoys to get the case submitted and, after the adjudication then we can worry the bone and stop the bickering on the blog. HH
ayr races tomorrow, any fancies ?
Sorry if already posted.
https://theclumpany.wordpress.com/2016/04/14/rangers-creditors-a-multimedia-tribute/
WHAT IS THE STARS on 14TH APRIL 2016 6:54 PM
Don’t see it listed, Clondaw Warrior, 16:10 at Ayr?
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
the polis in charge on sunday actually had an interview with clyde, its on now ………
macanulty or whatever ,,,,,,,,,,
begins with ,,,,,,,,,
the rangers and celtic game
hhhh,
On the face of it West Ham seem to have got the deal of the century in their renting of the Olympic stadium.
I don’t know the ins and outs of the actual contract – however West Ham contend they will only use the stadium on twenty-five days and therefore the rent is fair – £2.5 million per year for ninety-nine years, equals around £250 million on total – however at a useage rate of twenty-five days per year, which is around seven years actual use – therefore you could contend that they are paying £250m/7years, equaling around £36 million per year – so as always, there are two sides to every story.
If, as has been said, it cost £200 million to convert it from an athletics to a football arena – then I think a fair share should be paid by West Ham – especially when I presume they will be selling the Upton Park site.
I intend to do some comparison on what happened when Manchester City took over the Commonwealth Stadium, when I get home on Saturday – interesting financial/football scenario.
Lennybhoy – It runs in the 15:00 at Ayr on Saturday…
15-00 Ayr 6/1
HH
WEST END OF EAST END
Cheers, race not listed yet on Betfair, only the 16:10 race.
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
Timhorton
Good man.
Burgas
Thanks for that mate.
YOUR KNICKED BEFORE A BALL IS KICKED IS THIS LEGAL ?
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/14426810.Serial_domestic_abusers__will_be_removed_from_homes__ahead_of_Old_Firm_match__police_say/
There are kids being harassed for wearing ‘Free Palestine’ T shirts.
Is this legal?
HH jamesgang
Or is it an ‘operational matter’?
Still not a patch on the best fans in the world
Liverpool v Dortmund
Nae bother, ah’ll gie yeez awe a weather report fae sunny Las Vegas then. It’s, erm, sunny here.
Embdae seen or heard of KevinLasVegas in the last few weeks? He posted here regularly at one point, but is now posted missing. I was hoping to buy him a pint. If anyone is in touch with him, tell him I’m after a blether.
Meeting Kojo would be too much to ask likely :-)
Also, if any of you punters is planning a visit to the NAFCSC here in Vegas this June, I’ll be volunteering my hung over services.
Give us a shout on advice about accommodations, and always happy to provide lifts to and from the airport etc.
Embdae know if we have anyone on a booking going into Sunday’s game? Another yellow could miss the final,totally stupid rule.
Bada-
You can bet there will be a wheen on yellows after the game…
‘Open a window’
Tip for Ayr.
1-0 Dortmund
Get in there Dortmund !
Make it 2
2-0
Magic Borussia!
The best away ground I have visited following Celtic.
Hostile yet friendly cos we are Tims. :)