I’ve heard some utter tosh from politicians over the years but never anything so blatantly untrue as the comments from our First Minister, Alex Salmond, reported today. This clown is telling people Rangers need to be saved for the sake of Celtic. He said:
“The most diehard Celtic supporter understands that Celtic can’t prosper unless Rangers are there. The rest of the clubs understand that as well. Therefore you have to have cognisance of these things when you’re pursuing public policy.
Keep our name out of it you incoherent fool.
If our prosperity depends on the survival of Rangers it’s time our values and priorities changed. You of all people should know this after your lecturing last year. Celtic have not been well served by their association with Rangers, nor vice versa. As a combined entity, the ‘Old Firm’ have not been good for Scotland.
I’m keen to hear what his “public policy” on the matter is. Salmond goes on to say:
“We’ve certainly been arguing to HMRC on one hand, and indeed to Rangers, to for goodness sake get a settlement, get a settlement and a structure over time whereby Rangers can continue because Rangers must continue for the future of Scottish football and for the fabric of the country.”
How dare you argue with HMRC? Even Rangers admit the potential underpayment could be £75m. How many nurses, teachers and policemen would that employ, Mr Salmond? This is the true cost of his position.
This sorry business has nothing to do with Celtic, I hope our club make this clear to provocative politicians. All you die-hard Celtic supporters out there better let this man know he has no right to speak for you.
“Fabric of the country”. He got that bit right, alas.
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Coorslad – the funniest thing is even if they do win it (and they won’t) the HMRC are going to appeal and rangers will still be in administration. They won’t be able to afford to fight the Upper Tribunal thingimy. Never let your blue nosed colleagues forget these facts. The big tax case didn’t even get a chance to sink the cash strapped crisis club (in administration!)
Round them……
RobertTressell says:
16 February, 2012 at 15:26
Is that your bunnet she’s wearing, I’ll get it back to you Mate…
Nae ironing to do here I am wash and go Bhoy..
SP crinkled to the core..
To
FirstMinister@scotland.gsi.gov.uk
Dear Sir
I find your comments as reported quite inappropriate and in many ways reprehensible.
I feel that you forget that doctors nurses teachers and police deprived of the taxes that Rangers stole are as much part of the fabric of the Scottish Nation as this football club.
No doubt those that have lost their jobs recently at Peacock’s will have taken note of where it appears your concerns lie.
I look forward to the people of Scotland passing their own judgement on your comments and priorities at the polls when the next occasion arises.
bigphil47 at 15:28
Don’t forget this:
THE TRUTH IS ALWAYS THE FIRST CASUALTY IN WAR
For those worrying about the “positive” messages emanating from Ibrox, please remember thee following:
a) There is no tax issue (circa April 2010)
b) Ok, there is a small tax problem but we have been assured nothing illegal was done (circa Summer 2010)
c) Tax problem slight issue but not for Rangers, MIH will pay it (early 2011)
d) All debts cleared, Rangers ok (circa May 2011)
e) Warchest, 4 in a row not only possible but likely (summer 2011)
f) ok, a bit of trouble but the league is won so we’ll sort out problems later (Nov 2011)
g) em, administration might be a good thing (Jan 2011)
h) Administration is first step to recovery but we aren’t in admin yet, just thinking about it, oh and its all “big tax” problem (13 Feb 2012)
i) Ok so its a different tax issue but admin is good and we got our own people in, everything will be ok (14 Feb 2012)
j) Liquidation, nah, admin just temporary, we’ll be fine (15 Feb 2012)
Can everyone see a pattern developing?
Believe not what the LL/Rangers spin is.
Mort
SSN : statement delayed! They cannae find coins for the leccy meter!
Paul 67
Politicians talking rubbish again, who would believe it!
Questions for the Administrators :
1.) What is their day rate?
2.) How much did MBB and cronnies drain out of Dignity since their arrival?
3.) How much cash in hand?
4.) How long prior to the Admin event where they being briefed by MBB?
5.) Have they approved the Daniel Cousin transfer?
6.) How many times have they performed this fucntion for MBB?
Need to keep the pressure on these chancers, looks to me as though they are dancing solely to MBB’s tune and not the entire creditor base………..
…. still Liquidation when the FTT hits, as the Duff & Duffer can obfuscate that one until the brown stuff hits the fan ………. 21 working days since the FTT completed, give it another 3 weeks. It will probably emerge before the game at Ipox, which I suspect will be rescheduled until much later in the season due to Police advice.
crystalballcfc
Well said,Mort.
jackie mac, merseycelt – I like the sound of those plans.
Craig Whyte has it right.
Paying your dues is for suckers.
If he was Prime Minister I would worry that he might try to stuff the ceremonial mace into his suitcase and abscond to Monaco. (thumbsup)
well said Celtic stick it to Salmon
RobertTressell says:
16 February, 2012 at 15:29
Coorslad – the funniest thing is even if they do win it (and they won’t) the HMRC are going to appeal and rangers will still be in administration. They won’t be able to afford to fight the Upper Tribunal thingimy. Never let your blue nosed colleagues forget these facts. The big tax case didn’t even get a chance to sink the cash strapped crisis club (in administration!)
Round them……
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They are grasping at straws
Lochgoilhead
I recieved exactly same response at 15:18.
I thanked her for her response then expressed disappointment that a ‘standard response’ had been sent as it did not address the detail of my email – around issues of Tax avoidance.
I haven’t voted for 30 years for any of our self-serving politicians,but I will forever use a protest vote against ANY SNP candidate in any election from now on.
Referemce Alex Salmond’s “interference” in proceedings.
I would suggest that the SFA need to be very careful about any political involvement in the situation as UEFA and FIFA are very clear about Government interference in football and the governing body have a duty to ensure there is none and there is seen to be none. Scotland’s World Cup qualifying matches could get hooked.
Mind you, how is the SFA’s right and proper person investigation coming along??
Celtic thus far have played a blinder and may yet be required to be at the top of their game. That John Reid bloke might just come in handy after all:)
to James Dornan MSP for SNP Glasgow Cathcart
Dear Sir,
The recent comments of YOUR Alex Salmond re Rangers Football Club are an absolute DISGRACE – he should immediately RESIGN !!
Rangers Football Club STOLE MILLIONS of pounds worth of money !
Any Minister who does not condemn such an organisation is NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE.
This is all very very sad !
The hatred and vested self-interest is spewing shame on this nation.
DISGRACEFUL !
Kind regards,
TC
http://www.snp.org/people/james-dornan
jimmci says:
16 February, 2012 at 15:27
iki says:
16 February, 2012 at 15:18
Why did she not say…..
Sports Minister
“Finally, the potential impact on Scottish football of losing Rangers was captured very well in the comments earlier this week of a Celtic blogger … ‘We don’t need no stinkin’Rangers.'”
Why dae Folk.. in Scotland..
Keep oan .. Keeping oan..
Insisting ,that they ur..”Disappointed”… when they should
be using the woid…
“UNSURPRISED”.. when a thoroughly FORESEEN… Event or Situation..is
Revealed.. Publically????
Noo.. Ah see the latest Scoattish Spokes- Person.. tae Mis Speak.. and Use
The Woid….”Disappointed” instead o.. “UNSURPRISED”
aboot how they actually Feel.. aboot a newly unveiled Event.. or .. Situation which has noo become..well.. Unveiled…
Recently, this Mistaken Choice of a word.. has bin used by.. McCoisty and
Mr. Murray… when describing their reaction tae the News the G.A. had
bin forced tae Enter intae.. the Dreaded ..State o’
Administration.
Howevah..
In this Case… this Mistaken Choice of a Word.. is.. By a Celtic Spokes-Person.
Tae Explain…
The Snake ..also known as.. Mr. Salmond
is…
Currying ..like Hell…
for Favours,in the Form of Votes fae…the Aghasted and Consternated
and Brain Paralyzed…Followers… of the Establishment Darlings..
And is Pitting his Two cents in.. By Spreading a Great Big. LIE..
which is..
that..
.. Celtic NEED a Healthy and Wealthy… G.A. in order tae CONTINUE…tae Survive and Function .. Financially..
In the Manner tae which they had become Accustomed…
The Celtic Spokes-Person.. should Know Bettah..
Fur..’
How kin Wan Be
“DISAPPOINTED”.. because, of the contents of a Newly Publically Revealed.. Revelation… especially, one, that is .. coming fae a Politician o
the Lowest Order…such a Snake Salmond????
When.. the Said Newly Revealed Revelation..’
WIZ ABSOLUTELY and TOTALLY… tae Be….
EXPECTED?
Hmmmmmmmmm…
Kojo.
Me and Ma Gal..
Still Laughin’ and Laughin’
(Fur the Un-informed amongst Ma Readers:
Little Audrey…only Laughs and Laughs..whenever a CATASTROPHE has jist Taken Place.)
LL also means ‘Lumber Liquidators’ ; via google.
philvisreturns says:
16 February, 2012 at 15:04
See this national debt thingie?
To whom is the money owed?
Yep; our club have made it abundantly clear that wee Eck is full of merde/scheisse and that he is a wee carpetbagger. News tae me………..NOT.
Gerry
Here’s a thought:
The BBC’s “The Real Hustle” is substantially filmed in Scotland. It’s a reality show about confidence tricks, scams, and proposition bets.
The protagonists often pretend to be businessmen in order to separate the gullible and the greedy from their cash.
Nobody had ever heard of Craig Whyte till a few months ago…
Nah, it couldn’t be…. (thumbsup)
Mort says:
16 February, 2012 at 15:30
Great stuff, when you see it written down the pattern is clear and as I said earlier why does Nixon and Watergate keep popping into my head..
If Agnew then Nix knew..
The ripples will spread far on this one…
SP
Good response from our Club. Well done Celtic. Pat on the back for the Custodians.
Sky news jon Desborough….”even people at Celtic have been saying we need Rangers?”
Who tells these studio guys this nonsense?
Would love Desborogh to name names
In all seriousness, this is getting sinister. We now have the UK prime minister, earlier this afternoon, making HMRC look liike the bad guys. He’s on the button about the extraordinary history though….
“I want that club to survive and to thrive,” Cameron told the BBC on a visit to Scotland. “It has an extraordinary history, it has a very special place in many people’s hearts in Scotland and no one wants to see that club disappear.
“So, I hope that HMRC (Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs, the British tax authority) will work as closely as they can with the administrators to try to solve the problems, to try to resolve the issues.”
Bhoys remember the administrators are Whytes business partners.North Korea press conference up next…..
Cheers Mort cant help worrying, you know the darkside
David Grier – PARTNER at Duff & Phelps, close personal friend of Whytey !
DODGY DEALING alive and well at Ibroke
Correct me if I,am wrong but is this so called great scottish institution not wanting to play in English Premiership.What do you think of that Alex???
Desborough = plonker. Yet another one!
poor old sky sports , rangers have delayed the press conference and they’re having to fill in.
TopCorner says:
16 February, 2012 at 15:33
to James Dornan MSP for SNP Glasgow Cathcart
I contacted this guy re. Football Offences Act. I hope you do not expect anything of substance from him.
Probably, like me, you will have to be satisfied with making the protest.
Jabba looking very smug at the press conference. Wonder if he is about to get a new job?
Neil Lennon @OfficialNeil
Important statement from the club today with regard to Mr Salmonds quotes . Once again we have made our position clear
may67 at 15:35
In all seriousness, this is getting sinister. We now have the UK prime minister, earlier this afternoon, making HMRC look liike the bad guys. He’s on the button about the extraordinary history though….
He made similar statements about Portsmouth a few weeks ago and done nothing. Talk is cheap from politicians and remember, did you hear the question he was asked that prompted his response? He was trying to be as diplomatic as possible but not a chance in hell will they provide any monetary assistance.
Mort
RFC acting like ‘statement’ is a rock concert! Feckin’ numpties.
Meanwhile…..utter drivel onSSN?…McCall spewing forth.
TopCorner says:
16 February, 2012 at 15:37
David Grier – PARTNER at Duff & Phelps, close personal friend of Whytey !
DODGY DEALING alive and well at Ibroke
Indeed, indeed. Mentioned that earlier; hence am awaiting a stitch up. Press conference may reveal the hunexpected!
Gerry
@RealKennyShiels
Just heard the killie fans are takin flags of #jellyandicecream to ibrox on Saturday! I can not condone this but I can laugh my breests off.
Now I don’t claim understand the stock exchanges. I don’t know my FT from my CAC. But I do know that if the share price of a company goes up it usually means they are doing well and if it goes down they are doing badly.
As I understand it Rangers shares are currently suspended from trading because of Craig Whyte’s various infractions of company law, like not producing audited accounts. But if they were trading, I would have expected the price to plummet in recent days.
And if we are so deeply integrated with the huns that we will surely fail if they fail, then presumably our shares are now worth a mere fraction of what they were last week.
Is this the case?