I’ve heard some utter tosh from politicians over the years but never anything so blatantly untrue as the comments from our First Minister, Alex Salmond, reported today. This clown is telling people Rangers need to be saved for the sake of Celtic. He said:
“The most diehard Celtic supporter understands that Celtic can’t prosper unless Rangers are there. The rest of the clubs understand that as well. Therefore you have to have cognisance of these things when you’re pursuing public policy.
Keep our name out of it you incoherent fool.
If our prosperity depends on the survival of Rangers it’s time our values and priorities changed. You of all people should know this after your lecturing last year. Celtic have not been well served by their association with Rangers, nor vice versa. As a combined entity, the ‘Old Firm’ have not been good for Scotland.
I’m keen to hear what his “public policy” on the matter is. Salmond goes on to say:
“We’ve certainly been arguing to HMRC on one hand, and indeed to Rangers, to for goodness sake get a settlement, get a settlement and a structure over time whereby Rangers can continue because Rangers must continue for the future of Scottish football and for the fabric of the country.”
How dare you argue with HMRC? Even Rangers admit the potential underpayment could be £75m. How many nurses, teachers and policemen would that employ, Mr Salmond? This is the true cost of his position.
This sorry business has nothing to do with Celtic, I hope our club make this clear to provocative politicians. All you die-hard Celtic supporters out there better let this man know he has no right to speak for you.
“Fabric of the country”. He got that bit right, alas.
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admin boys press conference at 3.30
expect a load of flannel and denial of imminent liquidation
Boys just got this sent to me through email.
Subject: THE ESTABLISHMENT GATHERS AROUND THE HUNS
The Ulster Scot siege mentality so prevalent in the North of Ireland is alive and well in Scotland. The Protestant Establishment for a Protestant people are manning the walls of their ‘New Derry’ in readiness to repulse the Irish Catholic assault on their heritage. Cries of ‘No Surrender’ resound across the West of Scotland. In the halls of the Scots Parliament and Masonic lodges machinations of Machiavellian proportions are underway. The combined forces of the Scots media and government are mobilised to ensure that under no circumstances the law, morality, right and common sense are allowed to enter debate. The Ulster Scots lexicon of excuses is dusted off to defend the indefensible – Heritage, Culture, Society and of course failure to acknowledge any responsibility for their plight. The British public are being bombarded by a Pro Rangers propaganda blitz that Dr Goebbels would envy. Educated articulated dissent is ‘Verboten’. Dissidents are portrayed as irrational and openly dismissed as being motivated by hatred other voices are drowned out by the media openly calling them liars.
BlantyreKev – Parcel=> says:
16 February, 2012 at 15:11
Not content with butter you want jam as well.
thats twice in a week said “we dont need rangers”
think the media will take note? (aye right)
Thanks again.
I wonder who Nacho Novo will be for Glasgow Rangers supporters after knocking them back and signing for Artur Boruc club? We are all like Artur.
jock steins celtic says:
16 February, 2012 at 15:10
so what was the point (or 10) of administration ?
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To implicate Murray?
Just remember two things:
1. Craig Whyte doesn’t run Rangers FC PLC (in administration) – the administrators do.
2. Craig Whyte talks crap.
Now here was me thinking the administrator(s) whats their names? err laurel and hardy associates would the ones to advise on when the affected company would or could come out of administration,
but if craigy says itll happen then itll happen its not as if he has previous for telling porkies
What´s going on ?
Why is Craig Whyte EVEN talking ?
Hail Hail
I’m finally beginning to understand Craig Whyte
When he says Rangers will be out of Administraion by March he is saying one thing to the Hun hordes i.e. don’t worry be happy but what he really means is “Rangers will be out of administration because we’ll be in liquidation”.
Che says:
16 February, 2012 at 15:14
A bit harsh. He simply has an interesting past.
lochgoilhead bhoy:
I suggest you tell her a couple of things. The company employs just over 170 people, including players and coaches, all of whom will find alternative employment, which should make it easier for the SNP to target help for the rest. Remind her also that it government spending – the kind that helps people into and out of work – is dependant on tax collected by HMRC. I also suggest you remind her that government interference in football is frowned upon by UEFA.
She is lying – purely and simply, and I have no objection to saying it – when she talks about HMRC standing a better chance of getting something if the club survives.
HMRC are targeting around 8 high profile EPL teams right now, in separate tax probes, of a very similar sort to this one. Cutting a deal with Rangers means every single one of those clubs will be emboldened to fight all the way. Besides, the CVA is likely to offer only pence in the pound, and that makes it a waste of time.
The maximum return for HMRC is to liquidate Rangers and then break off the bits and sell them to the highest bidder, not to flog them back to the tax dodging original owners.
As to Terry Butchers comments, and her quoting them, I suggest if she’s going to find someone credible she finds someone better than an ex-Rangers player, a self-confessed sectarian bigot (reformed so he says) and someone’s who’s last business venture was a colossal failure on every level and left the tax man out of pocket. He is not a businessman, and thus has no basis to make those claims.
philvisreturns says:
16 February, 2012 at 15:04
Cant the government just set up a private bank then transfer all the national debt to it then let it fold?
It could then set-up a debt-free newco?
The UK would then be debt-free and would be able to trade as an equal with all other debt free countries except it couldnt trade in Europe for 3 years.
Sounds good to me!
HH
Sports Minister
“Finally, the potential impact on Scottish football of losing Rangers was captured very well in the comments earlier this week of Inverness Manager Terry Butcher, when he said that Samaras was not to blame for the financial difficulties but he is always around when it happens.”
Maybe the government could give THEM a ten year tax holiday. Just an idea.
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo says:
16 February, 2012 at 15:15
Wee touch of meglomania, I thought he reminded me of someone couldn’t quite put my finger on it, take a bow the bug eyed Fuhrer…
Celtic board playing a blinder. Pre-emptive strike on Monday and now reacting calmly but firmly as and when….
hen1rik says:
16 February, 2012 at 14:40
Boys I was up playing golf yesterday with a Hun friend
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I’d like you to name him/her.
Why do you have hun friends? Are you, by any chance a HOTEL UNIFORM NOVEMBER?
Cheers, Hen1rik
Huns in work spouting they have won the tax case..Nearly threw me jelly and ice cream back up..
Awe No
Did read your posts – was responding to Ernie’s question. as my opening line suggested.
Starry (and others)
Clydesdale. Tenants. Sky. ESPN. Yes they might remain but they’ll want to renegotiate.
Yes we will survive and I agree we don’t need them, and whatever they get is too good for them but we will be poorer for it unless we can engineer ourselves into a more competitive environment. The businesses I deal with outside scotland don’t differentiate between us and them. The knowledgeable fans get it but the customers of major potential sponsors don’t. This is a basic fact of business.
Europe – yes but at what level ? You cant challenge in the CL if you arent wealthy. You dont get wealthy without tv money and sponsors. You dont get tv money and big sponsors in a meaningless league.
Lochgoilhead bhoy
I thought exact same about our share price and Salmond’s comment! He has no right casting doubt on the future of an entirely separate company, one which has paid its taxes and is is in strong financial health.
Really outstanding response from Celtic.
As I posted last night, PL will come to the fore on this and IMO will do us proud – watch this space, this story is just starting….
hh
bjmac
PS Where were all these politicians in 1994 worrying about the sustainability of the Huns on the result of our demise, where was the support from the Secretary of State, Michael Forsyth I believe, for the state supporting Celtic, who had simply been badly managed, not cheated their way through the previous decades by avoiding tax.
No doubt,and understandably,this site will probably go into meltdown after the ‘administrators’ (a.k.a. Friends Of C.W.) make their statement @ 15:30. on SSN (a.k.a. gobshites).I’ll be watching & listening keenly.
I want to hear no more about how we “need” R.F.C. We’ve had to tolerate them and their fascism for 124 years. Adios….now go forth and procreate.
Statement from Celtic was excellent.
Calm, measured and to the point while not gloating about their predicament.
You can be certain this will be portrayed in the LL as ” Celtic take another cheap shot at ailing Rangers” or suchlike.
Salmond beautifully slapped down.
Take a bow, Celtic communications team and the Board
coorslad says:
16 February, 2012 at 15:20
The huns have won the tax case…..
Aw haud oan a minute Beyonce’s is at the door…
Back shortly..
philvisreturns says:
16 February, 2012 at 15:04
jackie mac – philvis – yeah , they’ve actually increased the national debt, haven’t they – me fall for tory spin
Yes, Jackie, they have actually increased the national debt since they went into Government in 2010. The national debt looks likely to continue to rise for the next few years at least. It will all have to be paid back unless Craig Whyte becomes Prime Minister.
Britain’s public expenditure is akin to the behaviour of a drunken parrot perched in front of the home shopping channel with a talonful of credit cards. (thumbsup)
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I would have thought your natural sympathies on the RFC tax issue would be with the Teddy Bears heroic fight against big government trying to tell them what to do with their own money!
Thank you Celtic F.C. for your measured response to the hubris of the smirking,preening Salmond!
Zbyszek
Earlier you mentioned a website saying Rangers were the no.1 laughing stock, do you have a link to this for my polish workmate?
StarryPlough – I can’t believe she is cheating on me. You are welcome to her. Terrible news about the tax man losing the case…….
Che
I am racking my wee brain to think lower than that… But I cant……(just get enough)
Correct… iPhone nonsense again
Should have have been turds….
So, anybody care to wager how much the creditors will expect to get on ebay for the following articles:
The Loving Cup
The Bicycle
The Canadian Soldiers Photograph
Watties Brogues
John Greigs Sideburns Comb
Gazzas Flute
starry plough says:
16 February, 2012 at 15:24
lol
can you tell her to get over here and finish my ironing the lazy git
Panic on the streets of Ibrox
Panic in the halls of Holyrood
I wonder to myself…
-take it away CQN glee club.
http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/rangers/297787-live-coverage-rangers-administration-press-conference/
STV showing the administrators conference live on this link
iki says:
16 February, 2012 at 15:18
Why did she not say…..
Sports Minister
“Finally, the potential impact on Scottish football of losing Rangers was captured very well in the comments earlier this week of Celtic CEO Peter Lawwell when he said we do not need Rangers? “
starry plough says:
16 February, 2012 at 15:24
coorslad says:
16 February, 2012 at 15:20
The huns have won the tax case…..
Aw haud oan a minute Beyonce’s is at the door…
Back shortly..
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I warned her not to leave the house until I came home..
Im having a ball winding them up..im going to have to start bein 40 faced,because hardly any of them are speaking to me..
beginning to get the feeling they may squim out of this some way. they are circling the wagons
Frankly Franky says:
16 February, 2012 at 15:21
Europe – yes but at what level ? You cant challenge in the CL if you arent wealthy. You dont get wealthy without tv money and sponsors. You dont get tv money and big sponsors in a meaningless league.
Celtic’s income breakdown:
Stadium Operations, ie Ticket sales etc – £31m
Merchandising – £14.3m
Commercial (inc TV deals, sponsors etc) – £7.2m
In an ave Champs League season, commercial income is between £16m and £19m so therefore £12m extra or thereabouts.
CL income will make up for a loss in domestic arrangements.
Mort
CQNers
Forgot to mention
Kano has taken on sannabhoys mantra
TAL …. Loves it and uses it easily….
Hail hail
Ramie