I’ve heard some utter tosh from politicians over the years but never anything so blatantly untrue as the comments from our First Minister, Alex Salmond, reported today. This clown is telling people Rangers need to be saved for the sake of Celtic. He said:
“The most diehard Celtic supporter understands that Celtic can’t prosper unless Rangers are there. The rest of the clubs understand that as well. Therefore you have to have cognisance of these things when you’re pursuing public policy.
Keep our name out of it you incoherent fool.
If our prosperity depends on the survival of Rangers it’s time our values and priorities changed. You of all people should know this after your lecturing last year. Celtic have not been well served by their association with Rangers, nor vice versa. As a combined entity, the ‘Old Firm’ have not been good for Scotland.
I’m keen to hear what his “public policy” on the matter is. Salmond goes on to say:
“We’ve certainly been arguing to HMRC on one hand, and indeed to Rangers, to for goodness sake get a settlement, get a settlement and a structure over time whereby Rangers can continue because Rangers must continue for the future of Scottish football and for the fabric of the country.”
How dare you argue with HMRC? Even Rangers admit the potential underpayment could be £75m. How many nurses, teachers and policemen would that employ, Mr Salmond? This is the true cost of his position.
This sorry business has nothing to do with Celtic, I hope our club make this clear to provocative politicians. All you die-hard Celtic supporters out there better let this man know he has no right to speak for you.
“Fabric of the country”. He got that bit right, alas.
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The Falcon – Yup. I doubt David Cameron has ever given any thought to Rangers FC before today, unless he saw them in the news when they rioted in Manchester.
Salmond knows exactly what Rangers have been up to and what they’re all about. He knows their history and culture and decided to tell the world that Celtic needs them. (thumbsup)
jackie mac says:
16 February, 2012 at 14:21
…and everyone else.
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Dear Mr Salmond,
Your support for tax evaders is very puzzling.
Do you realise that if Rangers FC PLC (in administration) had not been evading paying the tax that they owe, you would have had enough extra money in the kitty £75M+ with which you could have built enough new prisons to lock up all of Scotlands Tax Evaders!
This would have had a seriously beneficial effect on the country’s economy as the rate of payment of tax would improve greatly. With this Scotland would enjoy a period of prosperity rarely seen before. In fact so prosperous would the country be that this football mad nation would spend like never before on attending football matches and buying their teams merchandise. The Scottish Game would enter a new era of success off the field quickly followed by success on the field thereby creating a virtuous circle of success
This would foster a feeling of great confidence in the country as a whole and this would result in an overwhelming yes vote for independence and you would be hailed as the architect of this new Scotland. It would be a prosperous Scotland free from bigotry and facing the future with great anticiaption and excitement.
Instead you chose to promote tax evasion and cheating on a grand scale thereby creating a feeling in the country of “if they are not paying their tax then I’m not going to either” which will lead the country to become a Greek Ruin.
This and your recent pronouncements make me believe that you are not very far sighted and you wont be in a position to decide anything very much in a wee while. This is a fate that you will deserve, in much the same way as tax evaders should enjoy an extended stay in prison.
I wonder if there might be a wee hunexpected nugget released in the Administrators’ press conference coming up shortly.
Wouldn’t be a total surprise, since they have been working with the MBB for quite a while. A wee stitch up mibbe?
Just a feelin’……….
Gerry
Political posturing and sound-bites, that’s all people.
I work in Further Education and was astonished last week to read about the ‘huge’ improvements to funding announced by John Swinney.
Here’s my principal’s take on them (verbatim):
In yesterday’s budget (8th February) John Swinney announced some changes to College funding for 2012/13. He made reference to:
1. The £15m transformation fund (this is the fund that had already been announced to assist mergers)
2. An additional £5m million to support employability initiatives through the College sector (already announced SDS pilot programmes for employability)
3. An additional £8m for SFC “to help colleges deliver their Opportunities for All commitment”
4. A top-up of £11.4m for Student Support Funds (Bursaries etc)
It is not clear how, if at all, these monies will reduce our £2m funding cut imposed through the recent SFC allocations and we will need to await clarification from SDS or SFC on how these funds will be applied.
I have just received a letter from the Cabinet Secretary, Mike Russell, which implies that the £8m, together with the £5m, will in fact go to SDS, and not SFC, who will work with colleges to deliver a “new scheme”. This is not good news as it is likely to mean some form of college-based apprenticeship programmes for which challenging bidding and compliance systems will operate.
Essentially, Salmond et al speak with forked tongue. The Threadbears will not be given handouts any time soon.
Btw, our funding was cut by £4m last year too and we haemorrhaged jobs then and we’ll do so this summer. Still, I’m sure all those lecturing staff will be happy to listen to the sound-bite posturing by our esteemed beady eyed quasi-leader.
Excellent response to a prize buffoon Paul 67. If ever CQN was needed it is now. I need to read something objective said about Rangers fall from (dis) grace. they must not be let off lightly.
ernie lynch says:
16 February, 2012 at 14:24
“Other can decide for themselves.”
che, your comments really are a waste of pixels.
” Nationalism is a silly cock crowing on his own dunghill ”
Richard Adlington
” Nationalism is an infantile disease . It is the measles of mankind ”
Albert Einstein.
” Nationalism is power hunger ”
George Orwell.
” Vote me and I’ll make you free ”
The Great Panjandrum
jackie mac: 16 February, 2012 at 14:21
“scary stuff on ssn – rehashing salmond’s tripe and saying cameron’s jumped in”
Which is fine until you see the clip of Cameron – who is clearly attempting to be diplomatic while saying absolutely nothing of substance.
Very much a normal day for him.
our £336k in BROOMLOAN TICKET MONEY to be SPLIT and paid DIRECTLY to DUtd, Hearts, ICT, Rapid Vienna
NOT TO RFC !!!!!!
As I have said on here before, and will no doubt have to do again;
Politicians, no matter what position they hold, can do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for THEM.
Can you seriously see Cameron himself supporting a company, regardless of their ‘importance’, that has wilfully defrauded his Monarch and his establishment? Pleae get back to me on here when you can. I’m here for a long time.
DO LISTEN to what both are saying, especially Salmon. He is NOT suggesting they be let off.
Not very happy. Nacho Novo signed today for my Legia Warsaw.
what did we expect from politicians?
the irony of their statements (football aside) should not be lost on the people of this country, at a time when workers are being made redundant, after school care is being closed, all household bills are going up etc etc etc
its clearly being muted by these halfwits that its okay not to pay your bills….thats the crux of the matter, this is public money were talking about, public money that could and should have been used to maintain public services,
IF and I say IF this bears fruit, and HMRC in any form bow to this unparallelled political pressure then the floodgates could and should open…
Salmond?
He will reap what he sows.
Oh and a final point in this rant, using his argument one close neighbour requires the other i take it he will shelve the call for independence?
For feck sake Hector write off their debt.SPHell give them their 10 points back.Give Craigy a Knighthood.RBS give them a 100 million pound no interest loan payable back when they like.Oh and dock Celtic 10 points for their fans singing The Fields.Alex Salmond admit you wear Union Jack boxers. Me I,am of to Spain to live and get away from this wee bigoted country
lochgoilhead bhoy
Do you have a secret passion for Ernie or just an unhealthy obsession?
HH
Sir Paul
Noted yer barely contained ire..regarding the Busyboadyness.. o’
yer unfavouirite favourite Son.
Tae Whit.. Mr. Salmond.
Yep.. He is ..as ye know.. a Politico..and
as ye know…or..mebbe..
Dinnnae Know..
A Politico..is a Selfish Egotist..who only is Interested in
HIS .. Self-Interest..
Which..happens tae Live and Die.. aroon his
ELECTABLILITY tae whitevah is his chosen… Political Oaffice!
And a Politico..like Mr. Salmond, maks Kojo..look like .. Mother Teresa.. Hey!
Ah tak that back.. and Quick~~
Make that.. Maks Kojo look like St. Vincent De Paul!
Waan of these days.. Folks oan here wull realize the Kojo
is right.. at least aboot this..
And that “This”..is ..well..
This…
“A Politician … of ANY STRIPE.. Conservative, Labour, Independent.. Liberal.. Communist.. etc. etc…
Is Always only in the Business of Politics.. tae Further His AIN SELF- INTEREST..
Politics, is a Snake Pit.. where Vipers and Snakes.. Dae Crawl..”
well..
Ah guess that’s covers .. that Subject.
Noo..
Meanwhile, back at the Poor-Hoose…
Ah am told that the Administrators are
TODAY..
Hiving Meeting and Interviews with the Heids of Depts and Employees..baith Great and Small.. of the Noo Reeling G.A. Entrerprise..
and..
The Said Administrators efter hiving weighe up awe of the info that they kin Glean.. during and because of those said Interviews and Internal Investigations.. wull.. Then be able tae
Issue a Statement which wull map oot thur…that is the Administrators
Future course of Action..or.. IN-ACTION.. whichevah.. they deem tae Follow.
So…
Any Noos.. Pal. Any Noos.. Pertaining tae the Above???
After awe..Today is.. THURSDAY..
So.. Where is that Public Statement which wiz Promised..
Ah think it wiz Promised…
Hmmmmmmmmmmm???
Kojo
Me and Little Audrey.. are
Laughin’ and Laughin’
philvis
And he won’t give them another thought until the next time he comes to Scotland, or the next time they riot in England….whatever comes sooner.
Zbyszek (not in Administration, neither in Liquidation) says:
16 February, 2012 at 14:33
The cake I just spat out landed on my colleagues desk.
Thanks Zbyszek !!!!
tell me it is not true !!!
Hail Hail
It’s absurd to say we ( Celtic FC ) need a minimum 4 games against Them every year to survive, which in essence is what he Is saying.
Last year they were shouting that 7 games was far too many, make your minds up you should.!
They tried to shut down the so called, ” old firm ” game due to alleged domestic violence, secterianism and the rest last year..
Now suddenly, It’s a must and the Scottish Economy depends upon It..
Is Celtic the equivalent of the Breadwinner for all..?
Seems a bit strange to lambast and slander and treat with contempt the very folk who are actually the most significant part of the Household budget with calls for serious restriction amongst the supporters.
Get real Mr. Salmond..
The Old saying was never so prevelant..” Dont Bite The Hand That Feeds You ” for you might be left with nothing more than a Morsel.
Now why dont you do what the voters elected you to do, represent the people, and the services they need to live, like Employment, Education, Health, Proper Housing etc.. and leave the football agent stuff to the Football World.
Rangers have witheld from your very own budget massively, creating many of the issues now banging on the Holyrood Door, your response should not be, give em time, they didnay mean It..!
It should be drag em through courts and make them give back to those that suffered and are suffering as a Consequence.
Im sure Celtic’s Chairman and all associated where not telling porkies or making things up to appease anyone when they said Celtic dont need Rangers, that seems to be your game.
I tend to take his word and Celtics word for It over yours anyday of the week.
Perhaps If you were so concerned and had the know all solutions over concerns to affect Scottish society through footballing Faults, You may have spoken and acted sooner and cut the present debacle off at the Pass , Instead of waiting till the house was on fire.
Prevention has always been better than cure.
Like being silent over strange signing policies over many many years.
Dragging Celtics good name Into the affairs of the hodgit and bodgit Calamity of Chaos that is /was/ Rangers fc..surely and firmly hammers another nail into your Presidential election hopes.
Here’s Hoping.
Celtic need Rangers..?
Now that’s just daft..
The other way around is obviously the case..
In case you didnt notice One is at deaths door Inhaling the last dregs of Oxygen from the Charitable bottle…
Personally I wont be sharing my Ice Cream with you.
Zbyszek (not in Administration, neither in Liquidation) says:
16 February, 2012 at 14:33
Really sorry to hear that Mate, that’s a real shame for your great club..
“I want that club to survive and to thrive,” Cameron said. “It has an extraordinary history, it has a very special place in many people’s hearts in Scotland and no one wants to see that club disappear.
“So, I hope that HMRC (Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs, the British tax authority) will work as closely as they can with the administrators to try to solve the problems, to try to resolve the issues.”
“An extraordinary history” – that’s one way of putting it.
Faithfulthruandthru says:
16 February, 2012 at 13:32
Did you throw in BEAR STERNS for comic effect ?
Worked on me :-)
Devo Max Question
can we have independence without Salmond and the SNP?
p
williebhoy says:
16 February, 2012 at 14:13
You might be right Mr. Salmond……we DO need cheating / lying / Bigotted / Non tax paying morons…..who else would
we have to laugh at.
Can’t think of any other reasons though :)
Who else would we have to vote for?? ;-)
Zbyszek (not in Administration, neither in Liquidation)
So sorry re your bad news…por cierto
Just back from a few weeks overseas. I guess I didn’t miss much :0 :0
I’m surprised that anyone would be surprised by Salmond’s comment. He is no friend of my part of the community or my club and never has been.
Just keep the eye on the ball Celtic. Continue our run of good form, no mistakes and lets take that 14 point lead to 20+ to demonstrate our superiority on the park.
Zbyszek (not in Administration, neither in Liquidation) says:
16 February, 2012 at 14:33
did he pay his own signing on fee?
Ziggy:
I heard that was on the cards earlier. Much sympathy my man, but I trust the good supporters of Legia will let him know where he is and what it’s about … I trust that his flute playing, sash wearing, Billy Boys singing garbage, his support for Scotland’s Most Anti-Catholic Institution (in administration) will be remembered.
I hope some of the more vocal supporters makes it clear who this guy is, before he ever pulls on a jersey.
But hey, didn’t you hear? If it wasn’t for Nacho and people like him you would not have the second love of your life to fall back on … because we needed him, and need them.
Smart people have said so today on TV.
Boys I was up playing golf yesterday with a Hun friend and I didn’t want him to feel uneasy right away so I talk and talk and then drop the bombshell, what about the yer team going into admin you must be gutted lol.
He says but what do you want to happen to them, I said 3rd division newco, really he says but who will you compete against, I said hearts, he said but the tv deal will go, I said yes but I heard a strong rumour Dermot Desmond was going to invest heavily and gt SPL tv up and running lol.
Boys he didn’t answer, you should’ve seen his face it was priceless.
This is very dangerous territory for Salmond.
The issue of state aid for TFOD is not just an issue for us. It affects every tax payer in Scotland. Worse still, Salmond is taking a big risk as he could easily alienate the supporter of every other club in the country.
Where was the help for our club? This will be the cry from Dundee and Livingston. Clubs like Dundee United and Aberdeen may well ask if government asssistance would be available to their clubs in the event of an insolvency. I think we all know the answer to that question.
Salmond may see votes at stake here. He may also find that support for him and his party ebbs away if he oversteps the mark. It may only be posturing for the cameras at this stage. Anything else may jeopardise his perceived reputation as an astute political operator.
This could be Salmond’s Lehman’s moment.
The Scottish Parliament has an annual budget of £74m to fund running costs of the parliament, members salaries and administrators salaries.
Would Alex Salmond accept a cut in this budget to help out tax dodgers FC?
Mort
merseycelt loves Neil Lennon and the Green Brigade but despises the anti irish/catholic bigotry inherent within the organisations who constitute the scottish establishment says:
16 February, 2012 at 14:34
Took the words right out of my mouth.
Zbyszek (not in Administration, neither in Liquidation)
You do also realise the impact this signing will have on merchandise sales?
who in their right mind would buy a club calendar with nahco nobrains wee ugly face staring out at you?
do they have halloween in Poland?
Boys I was up playing golf yesterday with a Hun friend and I didn’t want him to feel uneasy right away so I talk and talk and then drop the bombshell, what about yer team going into admin you must be gutted lol.
He says yes totally gutted, he then says what would do you want to happen to us, I said 3rd division newco, really he says but who will you compete against, I said hearts, he said but the tv deal will go, I said yes but I heard a strong rumour Dermot Desmond was going to invest heavily and get the SPL tv up and running lol.
Boys he didn’t answer, you should’ve seen his face it was priceless.
I will be glad when this is all over and we are discussing our best eleven etc. I can hardly wait for our next Home game.
JJ
Zbyszek (not in Administration, neither in Liquidation)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Oh well, just get these guys to sort it out…
http://www.pestcontrolshop.co.uk/Rats
HH!
Salmond should have keep his mouth shut and went along the line lets wait and see what happens.
TimJimexSNPvoter
Competing politicians telling their desperate audience exactly what they want to hear with no intention of actually doing anything at all?
Who’d have thunk it?
I love the fact that the huns are hanging on to every word as proof positive of divine intervantion, rather than the straws they clearly are.
If the “establishment” were going to intervene and help the huns do you not think they’d have done so by now before the furore and attention that admin has brought upon them?
They’re dead but their mindset allows them to believe that someone, anyone, will come to their rescue.
Aye, they’ve been queuing up so far. Stupid huns. hehehe