I’ve heard some utter tosh from politicians over the years but never anything so blatantly untrue as the comments from our First Minister, Alex Salmond, reported today. This clown is telling people Rangers need to be saved for the sake of Celtic. He said:
“The most diehard Celtic supporter understands that Celtic can’t prosper unless Rangers are there. The rest of the clubs understand that as well. Therefore you have to have cognisance of these things when you’re pursuing public policy.
Keep our name out of it you incoherent fool.
If our prosperity depends on the survival of Rangers it’s time our values and priorities changed. You of all people should know this after your lecturing last year. Celtic have not been well served by their association with Rangers, nor vice versa. As a combined entity, the ‘Old Firm’ have not been good for Scotland.
I’m keen to hear what his “public policy” on the matter is. Salmond goes on to say:
“We’ve certainly been arguing to HMRC on one hand, and indeed to Rangers, to for goodness sake get a settlement, get a settlement and a structure over time whereby Rangers can continue because Rangers must continue for the future of Scottish football and for the fabric of the country.”
How dare you argue with HMRC? Even Rangers admit the potential underpayment could be £75m. How many nurses, teachers and policemen would that employ, Mr Salmond? This is the true cost of his position.
This sorry business has nothing to do with Celtic, I hope our club make this clear to provocative politicians. All you die-hard Celtic supporters out there better let this man know he has no right to speak for you.
“Fabric of the country”. He got that bit right, alas.
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ernie lynch says:
16 February, 2012 at 14:03
More guesswork Che? Anything to substantiate your ideas?
Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon says:
Wasn’t Cllr Alastair Watson previously chair of Strathclyde Passenger Transport Executive? And wasn’t he one of a delegation that was in Manchester of the day of the UEFA Cup final, supposedly for a meeting?
And didn’t their Manchester equivalents later confirm that there was no meeting on that day?
Yes he was.
No there wasn’t.
Was David Weir’s congratulatory jersey tax deductible?
People getting themselves into a fankle about nothing.
Politicians saying conciliatory things about failing football club shock. Jeez.
TET
Shucks … taking a riddy noo
ok Mary …. take it away
Once upon a time in the Louden tavern,
Where we used to raise a glass or two.
Remember how we laughed away the hours,
think of all the great things we would do.
Those were the days my friend,
We thought they’d never end,
We’d sing and bounce for-ever and a day,
We’d live the life we choose,
We’d play and never lose,
For we were young and sure to have our way.
Lalala lah lala, lalala lah lala
Just tonight I stood before the tavern,
Nothing seemed the way it used to be.
In the glass I saw a strange reflection,
Was that ugly soldier really me.
Die Die Die Die Ya Huns
Die Die Die Die Ya Huns
Die Die Die Die Ya Huns
Die Die Die Die Die Die Die Die Ya Huns
Die Die Die Die Ya Huns
Through the door there came familiar laughter.
I saw your face and heard you call my name.
Oh, my friend, we’re older but no wiser,
For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
Those were the days my friend,
We thought they’d never end,
We’d sing and bounce for-ever and a day,
We’d live the life we choose,
We’d play and never lose,
For we were young and sure to have our way.
Die Die Die Die Ya Huns
Die Die Die Die Ya Huns (to fade away)
P67
Great work again
I enjoy it when you open up the guns
You are a real gentleman …. But … Don’t talk any mince around you
My mate Kano is being fed daily with the jokes/comments/that have
Enhanced our lives for the last 72 hours
Oh… If He could speak…. And I mean really speak…
He is lapping this one up big time
He wants all the sordid details , flesh, bone, and all
It’s bloody marvelous…I feel like the delivery boy who got the biggest tip
These are the days we ALL live for
Whether you able to contribute or not
This blog has made this a great time for celebration of our own
We are different….
I usually go to the bassendean Caledonians club on a Friday
There I spend some time with dons ,jambos, hibees, and a lot of Huns
I have a wedding this weekend 500k south and won’t be there
I know what they will be talking about though!!!
And they always tried to rationalize it before now
I like the idea of them all saying…. That we’d Fenian b was right
They are Donald ducked…. 3 years in the preaching
Keep up the good work Paul and all the other Tim’s out there
You are putting smiles on faces all around the world
Especially my best mates!!!
And that is worth every rennet spent to oor fiver any day
Hail hail
The celts are here… And we are staying
Ramie
You might be right Mr. Salmond……we DO need cheating / lying / Bigotted / Non tax paying morons…..who else would
we have to laugh at.
Can’t think of any other reasons though :)
Rennet= tenner
iPhone nonsense
Barcabhoy says:
16 February, 2012 at 14:09
I disagree with you … it is nothing personal.
I dont think Celtic should make any comment until they have the proposal in writing
If they need a courier to take said document to Nyon I´ll volunteer
Dont interrupt your enemy while they are making a mistake.
Hail Hail
lochgoilhead bhoy says:
16 February, 2012 at 14:09
Re:
ernie lynch says:
16 February, 2012 at 14:03
More guesswork Che? Anything to substantiate your ideas?
Que?
ernie lynch – Ha!
There is a worryingly fanatical and authoritarian tendency within the SNP.
Despite the cheerful sales patter about “civic nationalism”, they occasionally let the mask slip and smear people who don’t support them as “anti-Scottish”.
The Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications Act is something they should be deeply, thoroughly ashamed of. But of course, they aren’t. That not one single SNP MSP had the courage or independence of thought to vote against it tells you a lot about that party.
Their willingness to collude in the destruction on statistics relating to anti-Catholic sectarian crimes is a national scandal.
Whenever I see these people in action I am reminded of “The Rule Of The Saints” in 1648, when the Covenanters seized control of Edinburgh and, in the name of Christ and religious freedom, viciously persecuted anyone they deemed to be an enemy.
I’m sure they wouldn’t go out an nail sinners’ ears to wooden stocks or anything like that, but extremism is in their political DNA and I expect they couldn’t resist the opportunity to make life difficult for those they deem to be “anti-Scottish”. (thumbsup)
From wiki dictionary: High profile politician=perpetrator of empty rhetoric
Dont panic bhoys!
HH
As much as it is sickening to watch politicians and political parties fall over each other to help rankers, it is only to be expected. They are an establishment team, always have been, always will be.
We, on the other hand, have been anti-establishmentarian from the very beginning.
Maybe it’s time an anti-establishmentarian political party was formed!
Awe No & Ernie
We already hear that our shirt sponsor is nervous cos they might be on one side’s jerseys only. You can only separate the brand to a point. In England we are all tarred with the OF brush. Totally undeserved but true. They will never admit us to their league and certainly not one or other of us. We are stuck in Scotland and there is only one big game in Scotland. “Our brand” is worthless without a real rival. Watch our sponsors (and top players) disappear when there are no OF games.
The SPL may be forced to recognise the “new Rangers” and beg the sponsors to do the same. The best option for us and the rest of the SPL may be to impose a recuring penalty on the new club eg no europe, 3 years points deduction etc. Don’t get me wrong guys – it’s not my preference but it may have to happen.
Salmond is a buffoon.
Off oot.
Don’t do anything till I get back now………………
Or they could just go and die, that I wouldn’t mind..
Just logged in and catching up, has there been a statement from the Aministrators that there will be no audited accounts and no AGM ?
HH
Che says:
16 February, 2012 at 14:15
Sorry Che – not you? The one who would pretend to be che.
Ramie says:
16 February, 2012 at 14:12
good on you,glad you and Kano are enjoying yourselves.
It has been customary for Ragers fans and sometimes RFC officials to del are that everybody hates them but they did not care.
This week has shown them to be very bad judges of character.
Salmond loves them, Cameron loves them, Curran loves them, all God’s chillun love them!
Oh and Celtic need them.
A quick comment I’ve been meaning to make on the SKY deal. Yes it’s written into the contract that price they paid is based on 4 derbies per season. That people extrapolate from this that if Rangers go out of business there will be no tv deal at all is absolute nonsense. True it will be worth a lot less but if it occurs Celtic say “For the good of Scottish Football we agree to an even split of the money” we take a sustainable hit, the remaining clubs lose a marginal amount.
Chris Evans has taken to playing a song about Alex Salmond on his Radio 2 breakfast show.
It’s called “Am I a Man or a Muppet?”
My own view is that Salmond is either a very manly muppet, or a muppet of a man. (thumbsup)
We need a preview and edit facility.
Frankly Franky says:
16 February, 2012 at 14:17
I can support Celtic without Rangers. I can support them when all the sponsors disappear. It doesn’t matter. Commercial considerations need to be ditched here.
@ Frankly frankly
We can flap our gums all day long about brands. Does pepsi need coke? No. Would the Scottish football brand be weakened w/o rfc(ia)? Without discussing the legal and moral issues surrounding their criminal activity, there would be a short term financial impact, evidence of which we are beginning to see with Dunfermlibe / ICT / DU facing a shortfall due to rfc’ cheating. Tv deal would also be redone, and possibly various other sponsorship deals. However, I actually think the brand would prosper long term if rfc were punished to the full extent of the law / rules. Relative financial parity would create better competition in the SPL and various cup competitions, enhancing the excitement level and willingness of people to go and watch the likes of Aberdeen, Dundee Utd etc . The long term commercial viability of Scottish football demands that rfc are treated like any other institution. You know, those institutions that have to follow the law / rules or be punished accordingly.
lochgoilhead bhoy says:
16 February, 2012 at 14:18
no worries…im kinda pretending too,
my real name is billy…err
scary stuff on ssn – rehashing salmond’s tripe and saying cameron’s jumped in. This is from someone who’s slashing public funds. live press conference from the great institution at 3.30.
iki says:
16 February, 2012 at 14:21
“We need a preview and edit facility.”
It’s called Notepad ;-)
Frankly Franky says:
16 February, 2012 at 14:17
‘In England we are all tarred with the OF brush.’
No we’re not.
Ask the GMP.
In fact, ask anyone in Manchester.
But that’s not the point I was making.
I was only suggesting that people apply a bit of critical analysis to the whole SPL/Sky football deal.
It doesn’t withstand scrutiny.
Which makes me wonder what the purpose of the whole exercise was.
My conclusion is that it was to provide an argument to facilitate the immediate admission of a newco huns to the SPL.
Other can decide for themselves.
jackie mac – Cameron isn’t slashing public funds, his government is spending more than Gordon Brown’s did. They’re continuing to run a massive deficit. (thumbsup)
I wouldn’t be too concerned with what David Cameron said.
He was probably handed a wee card on his way up this morning by one of his advisers….’Dave, if they ask you about the huns says this’ and he has just repeated it parrot fashion.
Slippery Salmond is a different story altogether though. He wants watching that one.
One thing that will I think will sink Rangers completely is that HMRC know that the orcs could be the tip of the football iceberg and if the go easy on them other clubs would need to be treated the same way.So it is likely the revenue will take a tough stance.If we were talking about Montrose for example doing what Rangers have done we would see the full weight of authority coming down on them so if there is anyone that we can reley on to make sure justice is done it will be HMRC.H.H.
Refresh my memory.
As Gretna’s saga unfolded, was the rest of the SPL called upon to subsidise the week to week operations of the club?
Frankly Franky says:
16 February, 2012 at 14:17
So I take it you don’t think the huns going to the wall could actually start a revival of scottish football as the biggest cheating club in the country is no longer there..
Old Firm this Old that, think outside the box, think Berlin Wall!!
The huns have systematically dismantled scottish football and who gives a tinkers curse what anybody in England thinks of Celtic!!
And who is again that is going to force the SPL to recognise rangers??
I guess you don’t think our top players would like to play in the Champions league??
Jesus
SP
boom, there’s yer dinner!!!
hell hath no fury like a…
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Former Everton defender Michael Ball knew Glasgow Rangers were toiling financially the day Sir David Murray asked him to pay £4000 every time he played for the club.
The lifelong Evertonian – signed by Dick Advocaat for £6.5million in 2001 – believes it was the start of a money meltdown at Ibrox which has left them at crisis point.
Ball was just one of the big-money buys in an era when Rangers spent beyond their means in a bid for European success. He was even told by Murray when he arrived in Glasgow that the English Premier League beckoned in the near future.
But when that didn’t materialise and Alex McLeish replaced Advocaat as manager, Ball insists the club was a shadow of its former self.
And when he had to fork out £4000 of his own money to Everton in order to continue playing at Ibrox he feared the worst for Rangers.
It all came home to roost this week when owner Craig Whyte put them in administration with debt spiralling out of control.
And despite foreseeing trouble ahead a decade ago, Ball admitted he’s struggling to comprehend just how perilous his old club’s predicament really is.
He told Record Sport: ‘It’s sad to see what’s happening. Because I’m not in Glasgow I’m watching it on SKY and it’s as if it’s not really happening. It has taken a while to digest the fact they’re in administration.
“Rangers are 140 years old and you don’t expect this kind of thing to happen. But when I compare what the club was like when I first signed to when I’d recovered from injury and started playing again it was totally different.
“Murray wanted to be successful in Europe and a lot of money was spent. But a few clubs have tried that in England with Leeds the top example.
“It was a great time for the players and fans, we all wanted to be part of it. But at some point you have to think of the bigger picture.
“Eventually, when I had to pay Everton £4000 with every game I played I thought there might be problems ahead for Rangers financially.
“There was an agreement that when I played 60 games Everton were due more money. It was only four or five games before I hit the number I found out. I didn’t know about it – it was between Murray and Bill Kenwright.
“It took a few weeks of talks before we came to an agreement and it was Murray’s idea. He said, ‘I want you to play but can’t afford to pay the money’. For him to pull me in and say that it was clear the finances weren’t there.
“I suppose alarm bells should have started ringing but back then no one could have imagined it coming to this.
“Murray actually called Kenwright but he wouldn’t waive it. So we agreed it would”
source: http://www.sos1878.co.uk/everton-news/michael-ball-i-had-to-pay-efc-each-time-i-played-for-gers/
VP
It doesn’t get any better than this
Smiles are compusary…. They also come naturally
They are the real ones
Kitalba has seen it, murdochauldandhay has seen it,
And mr Estadio ( hope you are well and thinking of you) has seen it
This really is our time and our place
And we are worthy
We still need to win a league and a couple of cups… But I feel a treble coming on
What’s the odds mate
Hail hail
Ramie
Does anyone think there will be anything significant announced at the administrators news conference from the Death Star at half 3? SSN previewing it heavily. Will it be an announcement or a Q+A?
Frankly Franky says:
16 February, 2012 at 14:17
Awe No & Ernie
We already hear that our shirt sponsor is nervous cos they might be on one side’s jerseys only.
There will be only one side so that´s a pathetically weak argument as your opening gambit
In England we are all tarred with the OF brush.
They will never admit us to their league and certainly not one or other of us.
See your opening gambit. But accommodating ONE profitable organisation should be a lot easier especially with a UK national team. The hun wont be at the table by that time – brushed away and in with the garbage
“Our brand” is worthless without a real rival. Watch our sponsors (and top players) disappear when there are no OF games
There is always Europe. You know the only place where any of them can turn a profit ?
Look at how the Italian league prospered after 2006 was sorted out.
The SPL may be forced to recognise the “new Rangers” and beg the sponsors to do the same. The best option for us and the rest of the SPL may be to impose a recuring penalty on the new club eg no europe, 3 years points deduction etc. Don’t get me wrong guys – it’s not my preference but it may have to happen.
If you dont read my posts .. why should l I read yours ???
If the SPL does force anything then UEFA will toe their baws
Is that what you really want. A Scotland that is permanently excluded from UEFA so that the huns can do what they like ??
That´s a great idea they can rebrand it The World Premier League and the NEWCO huns can be champions of the world every year … I like your thinking .. you have convinced me ….that I can believe.
Hail Hail
No we are only tarred with the hun brush sectarianism, rioting, tax dodging etc.