Let’s get the badge kisser-thing sorted once and for all. We have seen enough of them come and go not to be taken in. You can set your watch by them. I don’t believe in a hierarchy of Celtic players, or supporters, based on proclaimed affinity. You are at Celtic because you want to be here, fan or player, and that’s enough.
Kieran Tierney has been a highly paid and respected professional for four years. He mixed with others of the same ilk, as well as some who know they are out of their depth at Celtic. The latter cherish the term of their Celtic contract, the former all wonder what level they will be able to reach in the game. All of them. To the best of my knowledge, no Celtic player has rejected circa £75k per week to remain here.
I don’t know what his medical advice has been, but if you read about chronic osteitis pubis, you get an insight into where an athlete’s head may be when he has a persistent injury that is not responding as hoped.
“Osteitis pubis is a painful degenerative condition of the pubic symphysis, surrounding soft tissues and tendons…. It is currently considered as one of the most debilitating pain syndromes for athletes. Although the condition is considered self-limiting, it often requires stoppage of sporting activities for several months, representing a significant problem especially for elite athletes.”
Kieran got this move coming off the worst season of his professional career. We will see if things improve, or go downhill, this season. Consider what advice his agent would have given him right now. None of this forms part of the public discourse, instead we got a clumsy social media comment about being out with his pals while Celtic are playing a crucial qualifier.
If we are serious about making progress as a football club, we need to take our player trading onto another level. That means everyone has a price and we should be ready with replacement options whenever a value offer arrives.
If you think selling your top player for £25m is a bad day at the office, imagine your challengers selling a single player for that sum, and how transformational this kind of money is. Trading is as much a part of success in the elite game as tactics and fitness. There are no sacred cows, because eventually, the most sublime talents perish.
We should always be ready to make a deal. See how it is done in Portugal. Or look at Ajax, who were going nowhere, then discovered how to trade, sold €72m of talent in 2016-17, €73m in 2017-18 and reached the Champions League semi-final in 2018-19.
Multi-treble winning Brendan Rodgers is not a talent spotter. He added Scott Sinclair (whom he had worked with) and Moussa Dembele (a John Park recommendation) to Ronny Deila’s squad. If we are going to spend significant sums of money this summer, better to have Neil Lennon with his hand on the tiller.
It felt like a bad day when Brendan left, but now I am sure it was for the best. There is no telling the damage Brendan and Lee would do with this kind of money. Kieran was great, the best left back in decades, and yes, he should have stayed for 10, but I’m already feeling pretty neutral about him leaving.
At Celtic, we love our history more than any others do, but football is all about tomorrow. Time to get busy writing the next chapter.
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Come on CELTIC
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petec on 10th August 2019 1:34 am
Danny are you out there?
Trump has been protecting the unborn. He has my respect Big Time for that.
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Trump’s blatant racism is disgusting and an affront to every decent human being. He has done very little to protect the rights of those born disadvantaged and/or of ethnic minorities.
As for his war on Obamacare? There are no words to describe the depths Trump will sink to.
AN TEARMANN on 10TH AUGUST 2019 3:01 AM
August 69 it all changed
https://t.co/HSMIVZEPt3?amp=1
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Why does Gerry fail to mention this event of the 14th August ??
Omission or Commission ?
Or just doesn`t fit with the agenda ?
” Shortly after 1700 hours local time, 300 troops from the 1st Battalion, Prince of Wales’s Own Regiment of Yorkshire, occupied the centre of Londonderry, replacing the exhausted police officers who had been patrolling the cordons around the Bogside.
They have been on standby for the past couple of days.
The arrival of the British troops was greeted with cheering and singing from behind the barricades in the Roman Catholic area of Londonderry.
They were chanting: “We’ve won, we’ve won. We’ve brought down the government.”
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/august/14/newsid_4075000/4075437.stm
NCC: I have to agree with President Trump, I don’t want to see guns in the hands of dangerous psychopaths. Mind you, I am even more concerned that a dangerous psychopath has his finger on the nuclear button…..
This chapter in American history will be recorded as the nations darkest days.
The names trump, mcconnel, & graham will be notorious. The will be mocked and demonized.
Problem is – they do not give a damn. For instance, they do not care that Jimmy Aldaoud died starving on the streets of Iraq, a few weeks after having being deported from the US, the country he had lived in since being six weeks old. He was not a white man.
Anyone that protests they are Christian yet a Trump supporter is a liar.
HENRY JOY on 10TH AUGUST 2019 4:40 AM
Judge not , lest………..
CQN Saturday Naps Competition 2019-20 – just a wee heads-up
Lads, is anyone interested in taking part in our CQN Naps competition this season?
If interested, just add your name to the list here:
https://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/cluj-on-the-break-forrest-players-come-and-go/comment-page-13/#comments
Plan is to start from next weekend (Saturday 17th August) and continue until Saturday 16th May (40 weeks in total) – and hopefully we’ll finish on the same day as an historic QU4DR4BLE
:)
A big thanks to Paul for allowing us to continue to use his platform…
Cheers, fleagle1888
IMO.
The unrelenting personal ” attacks” on Peter Lawwell on a Celtic site are hun like and would be more at home on Follow Follow .
macjay1 for Neil Lennon on 10th August 2019 4:48 am
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Try telling that to your judge God almighty.
Disagree compliant silence would be more Hun like
HENRY JOY on 10TH AUGUST 2019 6:46 AM
macjay1 for Neil Lennon on 10th August 2019 4:48 am
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Try telling that to your judge God almighty.
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No.
After a few days and when people look at facts we quite often get sensible but still different views.
All I would like as a starting point is for Celtic (usually PL) to not make statements that we are going to come out of transfer windows stronger or as mentioned above by Paul that if Celtic ‘..are serious about making progress’. We aren’t really. The evidence shows that we sell. Even the supporters of the ‘business model’ accept that. We have dominated our domestic game but we don’t improve on the field because we can’t. You can not sell one of your best players every summer and improve. The side now isn’t better than 2 seasons ago. Arguably it is weaker.
Money from transfers solidify the accounts but they don’t markedly improve the team. That would take £100m.
Fans over 35 are tortured by the history of our club. 15-18 seasons ago we had Henrik and the bhoys competing at the top level. Soon after we were getting to the last 16 but in the last decade (in the main) the financial gulf has stretched beyond comprehension. If i was 20-25 I cant really remember the 00’s as a fan so my reality is the last decade. Celtic are domestically dominant but a bit part in Europe. Being in the Champions league is ‘…like winning a trophy’. Aagh, no it isnt.
If we qualify for the C league PL, Lenny and the players will all get bonuses. They will feel they have achieved. The fans will have to shell out significant money to watch us probably struggle. The club think qualification is what matters. The fans always want more. I find it hard to watch our captain or Manager justify being humiliated in Paris or Barcelona because they are rich.
It boils down to our expectations not being possible to meet because of our environment. That makes us angry, fed up, dismayed at times.
I truly believe if our board planned better and acted modestly more pro actively there would be fewer arguments even though we probably wouldnt do much better but we would probably play better football.on occasion as the team would be better prepared.
They knew Boyata, benko and Lustig were going or at least ooc. They didnt sign a replacement for SA or a sensible one for MD.
Its things like that that frustrate. Signing players give fans hope.
Most people ‘get’ the business model and yes it has helped to deliver extraordinary domestic success but it also half emptied CP under RD.
A better balance is needed. I dont think yhe club has any ambitions other than continued success in Scotland but that is not a given just because we have more money or better players in certain positions.
Now , why did Henry Joy 4.40 not mention this ?
More obfuscation?
Immigration officials, though, paint Aldaoud as a repeat criminal who violated court orders. ICE officials in Detroit, in a statement to The Post, say he had 20 criminal convictions between 1998-2017, including several violent charges, and that he cut off a GPS device he was supposed to wear while on release from immigration custody.
“(His) immigration case underwent an exhaustive judicial review before the courts affirmed he had no legal basis to remain in the U.S.,” ICE’s Detroit office said in a statement, adding that he was sent back to Iraq with a “full complement of medicine.”
Good morning CQN from an excited Garngad
Under 4 hours till the Bhoys take to our first away trip of what could be a historic season.
Pub for me today with mates to watch the hoooooooooops.
Cannot wait.🏆🍀🏆🍀🏆🍀🏆🍀🏆🍀🏆🍀🏆🍀🏆🍀
Equalled by. 🍺🍀🍺🍀🍺🍀🍺🍀🍺🍀🍺🍀🍺🍀🍺🍀
Lovely
D. :)
Sydneytim,
Good analysis on Lawwell and ultimately how we will not take advantage of the cash pile and ensure TIAR.
Team is weaker than last year and with the puppet in charge Lawwell has a free run.
Maybe dropped points at Fir Park might open the biscuit tin.
Lucky Cody, no dropped points please.
D. :)
Good morning, friends. from a currently dry and bright East Kilbride (did those pesky forecasters get it wrong again?). A chance to move 3 points clear of Ross County if only for 3 hours but let’s keep the pressure on them.
Is there any other club in the world with as much cash at the bank that we have?
Will any shareholder ask why we are amassing this amount and have no plans to spend it?
Years ago we heard on CQN that P67 pressed a book called moneyball into Peter Lawwells hands. Since then we have read the mantra ‘stick to the plan’ repeated at quarterly intervals.
That plan is was fine in the times when the maximum we could get for a player was £10m. Now we can get £25m for a left back. Who knows what a young central midfielder like Christie would amass in transfer fees should he score over 20 goals and become player of the year?
Our financial position is such that inflation on transfer fees has outstripped every other inflation level on every other income stream. It is a reality that 25% of our income could be banked on selling one or two players each year.
There is over £50m sitting in an account.
If you lifted that cash and put it on the ground In £10 notes you would cover the entire Glasgow area and have some change to spare that you could then go over to Edinburgh and do the same thing.
Is it financially prudent to amass this money? No- for a normal company of Celtics size, banking close to a minimum annual turnover would look like a company scared of its own shadow who can’t or won’t invest and will soon run out of luck. If you don’t have the people to run the business with vision on how to invest and return profits then there is no point in amassing cash. The turnover grows for a time but if you stick to the same plan you had on the lower turnover you will get caught by your competitors.
We absolutely must incrementally increase the quality of the squad. Look for gems outside of the UK and punt them to the crows down south prepared to waste millions of their money. We absolutely must invest in wages for better scouting and analysis to tap into better markets at earlier times. For another £2m we could have a world class team of scouts with outstanding analysis.
Arsenal (yes them) own their own analysis company. Ajax are actively scouting and signing players from South America. We have Peter Lawwell taking direction from his son and knowledge from his network as well as Lennons eye for a player and a temp Director of Football. It’s a system based on luck and being in the right place having the right conversation at the right time then any scientific method. Again we have enough money to buy a Caribbean island and yet we take this amateur approach. We could buy Aberdeen and Rangers and still have change to increase McGregors wages by £5k per week.
When will our luck run out.
David66
Enjoy the Celtic in good company today.
We always get a tough game at Fir Park. I expect no difference today. Forecast- an away win in glorious Lanarkshire sunshine.
I absolutely agree with selling players but do we have the resources to cope with negotiating player sales and player purchases?
How much time has been spent by the people charge with Ellington Tierney and how much time have they spent or been able to spend on buying players?
How much manoeuvring has been missed by taking your eye of the ball to sell a player?
DD- Garry, hail hail Amigo, hope you are well. You enjoy too
Did you see Drew67 mum retired after 52 years working for Celtic…. Wow
HH
D. :)
Ellington = sell.
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David66
Thanks pal, will be watching in Green and White Dalmuir.
Lovely lady Mrs M. A lifetime service to Celtic since 1967. Wonderful.
Tangbhoy at 7.54 – some good points in there.
DD – I agree about Mrs M, and Dalmuiir👍👍👍
D. :)
Tangbhoy & Mullet
Some great pre match reading.
It makes me wonder and think this Saturday morning.
Thank you both.
David66
Good man 😊👍🍀
Tangbhoy,
This club should be looking to get wages to a level that allows us to compete in the Champions League and amass enough coeff points to keep us in the league format each year.
If we can get turnover to £130m we can afford wages of almost £80m. Some people will laugh at that but it’s achievable.
All we need to do is ensure we beat clubs with half the money we have over 2 legs and 4 games. UEFA have made it hard but not too hard. The odds should be 75% in our favour but we are making it 50% with no plan.
We should have a folder of info on each club we could possibly meet by the time June comes. No surprises.
The goal should be 5 years of qualification for the Champions league groups in a row. £40m income plus a players or two sold at £20m, increasing £ on sponsorship and inflation on merchandise etc gets us to £130m turnover easy.
If Celtic are clever they could sell the scouting intellectual property they amass in chunks to other clubs.
Celtic Celtic, that’s the team for me 👍
Haven’t commented on KT, will now, good luck to the Bhoy, no interest from me on how your new team do
Celtic Celtic, that’s the team for me
Can I ask why many are writing off Kouassi ? Had an illness when he signed, had an injury, then got a major injury playing for us
Also Hayes, has not let us down, after 2 major injuries playing for us
Oh and a new left back, why did we sign Luca Connel ?
MULLET AND CO 2 on 10TH AUGUST 2019 9:01 AM
Is there any other club in the world with as much cash at the bank that we have?
Ajax
MACJAY1 FOR NEIL LENNON on 10TH AUGUST 2019 7:59 AM
Now , why did Henry Joy 4.40 not mention this ?
More obfuscation?
Immigration officials, though, paint Aldaoud as a repeat criminal who violated court orders. ICE officials in Detroit, in a statement to The Post, say he had 20 criminal convictions between 1998-2017, including several violent charges, and that he cut off a GPS device he was supposed to wear while on release from immigration custody.
“(His) immigration case underwent an exhaustive judicial review before the courts affirmed he had no legal basis to remain in the U.S.,” ICE’s Detroit office said in a statement, adding that he was sent back to Iraq with a “full complement of medicine.”
Ah so thats alright then??????? WTF
Celtic Social Media was always crazy but lately it’s gone bonkers altogether. I just dread to think what it would be like if we lost a game. I long for the days when Roy Croppie would post his pics and music and we could just relax and enjoy being Celtic fans in each others company.
Now there is a constant edge to almost every conversation, whether, Political, Social or Football related.
I know we can’t rest on past glories but we have just won the last 8 Championships, Trebles in the last 3 years,
In the third round of European Qualifiers with a very good chance of progressing and we have won our opening SPFL game 7 nil.
Do people here just get off on worrying & apprehension,
Anyhow big game today and am looking forward to it with relish, any kind of win will do me for this one.
Motherwell have been going OK and with us coming off a midweek European Game with 2nd leg coming up net Tuesday they will fancy their chances.
The line up will be interesting, Mikey & Elhamed are doubtful and for me Morgan didn’t do enough midweek to get a start. I expect Ralston & Sinclair to replace the afore mentioned.
Julien & Ajer to start & Boli to hold his place & have a storming game.
I have a feeling Edouard might be rested with The Griff leading the line. Shved for Forrest might be too many changes but I wouldn’t rule it out.
Main thing is football is our recreation, following Celtic is supposed to make us happy , so cheer up ghuys and if Roy Croppie is lurking you are badly needed, time to make a comeback.
Norrie
I have not written off Kouassi. Malaria then major injury would set any player back.
Luca is one for the future. Time on his side.
Corkcelt
Good post sir.
Totally agree about the absent Roy Croppie.
COYBIG
Norrie, with regards to Luca, I heard that the Management team are impressed but reckon he needs bulking up. I think they see him as one for the future, I don’t see him figuring this year, He picked up a knock playing for the Colts against Queens Park last Tuesday, and was substituted. He is only 18 yrs of age so plenty of time.
I’ll give Ajax as a club with more cash. They received £150m and spent about £50m so far this window.
This week’s choices from The Couponeers –
TET – Dundee
Pog – Crystal Palace
GFTB – Sheff Wed
Jobo – Annan
LB – Watford
AWATR – Cardiff
BMCUW – Hull
And here’s the table after week 1 (it’s based on a mythical £1 single bet on your pick each week)-
1. POG +£1.50
2. JOBO +£0.57
T3 – The other 5 all at -£1.00