Celtic have been completely dominant in Scottish football on many occasions but only once did this result in a domestic treble (the treble was won another two occasions when Celtic were only marginally ahead of the competition but were ruthlessly focussed).
At all other times we have had a morning like this, tossed out of one of the cup competitions by a vastly over-performing team. Little more than a handful of games against weaker opponents stood between us and a treble in each of the last two years, but as we have noted for many years now, Celtic are not consistent enough to win the treble. The evidence is substantial.
There are parallel ways we should react to this. In the middle of a Champions League campaign we should be focused on little else, players should be rested for the challenge ahead, even if there are resultant risks, but there will be disappointment that we didn’t see a recognisable performance from those drafted into the team. It wasn’t until Matthews, Commons and Stokes arrived last night that we looked anything like the Celtic we know. On no occasions should we lose at home to a Championship team looking for their first away win since April.
That domestic treble from a dominant position was achieved by Martin O’Neill in season 2000-01, a time when Martin scarcely made a substitution before 85 minutes, never mind rested players. This drew criticism, of course, as his ‘feeder’ players were denied opportunities to grow. Despite last night’s reversal I would still rather use these games to develop the wider squad.
I also don’t subscribe to the belief that ‘every game is a cup final’. Motivational strategies lose effectiveness if you roll them out too often.
Credit to Allan Moore and his “boys with desire and work-rate”.
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21nov2006
21:06 on 25 September, 2013
I couldn’t give a damn about the cardigans record in the CL I was only correcting your post about NFL getting to the last 16 at the first attempt
As some are quick to point out in here
“If you know your History”
PFAyr
What were your thoughts for the future of Celtic like after the ICT game? Compared to todays thoughts about our future. No comparison imo.
Sorry Jimbo hahaha.
suttons volley
Best to email Paul67 and he’ll give you mine.
HH
latchford
I actually laughed at that image of an ostrich sweeping the carpet.
Pfayr.
“The gulf in class between CFC and ICT was smaller than the gulf in class between the teams last night”
I think you’ve been on the cooking sherry mate :)
Tricolured Ribbon
Not such an inaccurate description these days!
Jimbo67 supporting Oscar Knox
SFTB – Nil Desperandum.
Jimbo67
Haw haw, yes I can relate to ‘going to the fitba’ grief.
That was my era for going regularly too.
Live in Germany now- still miss it.
Miss being young tae!
gincher
Yours if you want. First yes gets it.
Latchford,
What is this next level you spoke of earlier?
Watching the Americas Cup
Refreshing to see sportsmen bursting the hump employing maximum effort
That type of attitude is in short supply at times with CFC
Geordie Munro
You disagree …why
Thanks Mon’1900
Whats Pauls e-mail?
HH
Tictaewin
Aye. That’s true. Still my midlife crisis isn’t buying myself a Porsche Boxter and going out with a blonde 22 year old called Stacey. No it’s going to Milan and Barcelona on a supporters bus.
Jimbo67 supporting Oscar Knox
Good Evening Fellow CQN Predictors,
I made it into the qualifier, just, commiserations Weißbier X, it was a good contest.
On to the qualifier, the following ties will have the same format as the last round, home and away, team in the left hand column home first week.
Away points count double in the event of a draw.
But take comfort in the knowledge you have European Football until Christmas.
the format of the Champions League and Europa League will be sent out soon(ish).
I’m away for a lie done now! If you spot any mistakes feel free to reply, email please
Good luck and get your predictions in soon, some players are out because they didn’t get them in.
Gohome Yahuns v Green and Whiteley
Koln Hoops v Evergreen
Bayern Bru v ruggyvogue c.s.c.
Giffnock Old Bhoys v Rodfathers Rovers
Kikinthenakas v Meiklehill Rovers
Celtic Under Ninety Team v The NoNames
We’re on the one road Colts v Hail Hail Rain or Shine FC
Del Monte Shamrock v EK Green & White Army
Chocolate Bhoys v The Exiled Tim
Kiwinning Dangers v MARCELONACELTIC F C
McDowells Bhoys v Imrans Maw
Hillend Rockies v Hopeful Hoops
Kayal33 v lubosleftpeg
celtic1888 v Bada Bing
Norfolk Enchants v Donny Gaels
Looney Tunes v Acacia Milan
Nitrams 11 v Heaven
Maybe Next Year………. v Frank’s Frantic Eleven
Roughrigg Brushers v epl overated
Jessica Rabbit v Dim Sam’s Tims
Billys Boots v Celtic rose
Thom’s Sellick v Bannockburn Bhoys
Set Phasers to Malky v LennysBhoys
Minx1888 v FC Pasch(ing)
7-1 4-2 6-2 v Googys Globetrotters
iPaddys Plodders v Setting Free the Bears
Diamonds v Rossini
celtic 67 v Athenry bhoys
Angola CSC v Lennys Lions
Dougies Donkeys v Dan City
micktic v Sipsini
Hurdlers Huddlers v The Dukes of Montrose
….pfayr
I’m bamboozled as to how you can say and define gulf in class.
Milan now 3-3.
Two goals in the final two minutes of normal time.
Geordie
League positions …form …
What more do you want
I knew my memory wasn’t that bad.Scottish Cup semi-final 1969.
http://www.britishpathe.com/video/celtic-v-morton
G’night to my fellow Celtic fans !
To the rest …… ach, never mind.
A Brit wins the Americas Cup off the Yanks
Wonder how long it’ll take them to airbrush his contribution
Off …for ..
21Nov2006
Goodnight Naka’s goal night.
delaneys dunky
21:25 on 25 September, 2013
PFAyr
What were your thoughts for the future of Celtic like after the ICT game? Compared to todays thoughts about our future. No comparison imo.
My thoughts from all those years ago was there was no chance that ICT would ever challenge us for league titles. However after last night my opinion has changed
Bologna lose two late goals to AC Milan in Bologna and it finishes 3:3.
I presume the Bologna coach was a naive eejit who made two attacking subs when he should have put on defenders.
Let me check
One non-scoring midfielder subbed by another non-scoring midfielder on 65 minutes
A defender came on for a midfielder in 78 minutes
A non-scoring midfielder for a non-scoring midfielder in the 85th minute
This is surely inexplicable??
This manager did just what Captain Hindsight recommended as a no-brainer last week.
Surely, this guarantees you will hold the result you have???
Or could the stoics have been right all along. Stick or twist? It’s a gamble either way.
Generally speaking, we should be playing our best team in every game, with changes for suspension, injuries and loss of form only…..IMO it’s the only way to get consistency, and for the team to gel into a unit….changing formations all the time is not the way forward….the fringe players then know they have to take their chance when they get their chance….
Pfayr ,
Go on then. What was caleys form going into the game? League position??
Ours was same.
Scottish cup game in February with no euro distraction……
21Nov2006
Well it is two different squads for one thing. They have rejigged the nextgen tournament to a mirror of the CL so a tough call there. To qualify in whatever form would be a terrific achievement. As discussed frequently it’s what happens to our young players post development level that is raising questions.
Geordie
Our form going into the game …very good …won four drawn one
Morton second bottom of second tier ….wretched form
ICT game …we weren’t joint top of the league and unbeaten and ICT weren’t second bottom of the second tier
BBC2 10,00 pm
Programme about Northern soul.
TT
suttons volley
I think it’s paul67@gmail.com
Perhaps someone who knows can confirm or correct?
Can’t believe the SFA don’t ‘recognise’ sevco …. As far as they are concerned, sevco aren’t called sevco…..strange ……here we have a wee new team struggling it’s way through the Divisions to no avail… hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahzhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Tinytim @ 21:52
I have only 6 minutes to make it home from the Boozer then ????
.Mickbhoy
Would you prefer another team of your choice, to be challenging Celtic?
Tricoloured Ribbon
That is great. Complete with Mr Cholmondley Warner talking about the Kelts. Official attendance 48349. A mere 86000 inside capacity. Must have been a helluva lot of wee boys let in for free
Jimbo67 supporting Oscar Knox
Think there’s been an over reaction to last night. In the cold light of day we are actually doing not too bad with a team that is still getting used to each other. We are joint top of the league and in the CL group stage.
The one other observation I’d make is our tendency to write new players off too quickly. I’m not too sure why this happens but we do. Give the new guys some time to settle, if you need an examples remember Stilian? or more recently VW ?
Imagine the trials facing Balde just now, unable to converse in a period of major adjustment at a new club in a new country.
Give the guys a chance.
Kojo,
I am not saying anything to denigrate Pukki.I have no doubt the boy is a fine player,but a main striker?.Everything about the way he plays tells me no.Playing alongside a striker,looks his position to me.Hope I am wrong,we need a hero.