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John Beaton was the man who put pressure on referee Don Robertson earlier this month, not Brendan Rodgers.  Robertson had already awarded Celtic a penalty in the game against Hearts when VAR Beaton recommended he rewatch a high boot by Yang, who had already been cautioned for the incident.

Right then we knew the chances of a referee awarding Celtic a penalty, then declining to change his decision after a VAR recommendation was non-existent.  Beaton was left helpless at the Celtic penalty, there was simply nothing he could do about it.  The Yang incident, though, that was an open goal for him.

Celtic arrived at yesterday’s hearing LWYRUP, which was material to the SFA Disciplinary Panel’s decision to award the manager only a one game touchline ban, which he will serve on Sunday against Livingston.  Disappointing, though this is, Brendan will be available to continue his dominance at Ibrox the following week.

The CIES Football Observatory this week issued a report on the average age of recruitment of first team players over 10 transfer windows (to July 2019) for over 800 clubs in the world’s top 48 leagues.  It’s a fascinating read and documents a period after an incredible change at Celtic.

The Red Bull stable are unwavering in their commitment to The System.  RB Salzburg top the table (ave. age 20.93 yrs) and RB Bragantino (Brazil) are second.  Also in the world’s top 30 are RB Leipzig and New York RB.

Salzburg have taught the world how to recruit on a budget.  They sign lots of young players, develop them through a collaborative network, then bring their graduates to the first team, before selling them on and promoting the next generation.  The only UK clubs in the top 30 are Liverpool and Brighton, two impressive examples of how recruitment should be done.

Scotland’s highest entrants were Hibernian (41st) and Celtic (59th, ave. age 23.53 yrs).  59th out of over 800 is a high placing.  It would be higher still without the likes of Kolo Toure and Scott Sinclair.  I know what you’re thinking – don’t say a word against Scott Sinclair.

Scott was a stand-out in the Celtic team which won the first of our Quadruple Trebles; without him, one of the most historic periods of our history may not have happened.  But there is a cost of this success.  While we were spending money on Scott’s wages, Salzburg were signing hordes of teenage talent.  Most of those would not make the grade (few as spectacularly as Kolo at Celtic), but this is always the way in football.

Apart from that Quadruple Treble, our most common 21st century reference point is the Martin O’Neill era.  Martin transformed us from always-underdogs to always-favourites.  He remains an inspiration.  But Martin recruited old men with no notion of what tomorrow would bring.

Sign them at their peak and let them leave when they’re done.  It was exciting, but despite all the trophies and European runs, we lost money every season Martin was here, as we marched a pace behind David Murray’s Rangers towards the cliff.

Change came just in time.  Spend was curtailed and the club built a recruitment strategy which did not rely on Match of the Day.  Murray’s Rangers, gloriously, stepped over the edge alone.

This season has seen us commit to a plan Salzburg would endorse.  We are not as good as them (yet), but honestly, if you think there is an alternative strategy that would better serve our interests, you have an unhealthy need for short term fixes.

Celtic and Newco have agreed to allow around 3,000 visiting fans at their games after Celtic insisted on having a safe segregated area of Ibrox or nothing at all.  After years of torment, Newco reduced Celtic’s allocation to 800 tickets (Celtic responded in kind).  Celtic fans were left vulnerable in a corner of Ibrox and had to egress from the area through usually unhappy Newco fans.  In the stadium, Celtic fans were subject to missile attack from above, while the journey home was far from pleasant.  Eventually, Celtic decided it better to have no visiting fans at these games than allowing an unsafe situation to continue.

There will be some satisfaction at this decision, however, the devil is in the detail.  I have been going to Ibrox since the days we got half of the old enclosure but only a third of the stand above; missile attacks from above have been around that long.  Make it safe or don’t have Celtic fans there.

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    I don’t think many of these internet things ever meet in real life ….

     

     

    CQN … is a bit different…

     

     

    Even in real life none of us agree ..

     

     

    3pts at a Livvy avoid defeat in Govan …

     

     

    The we might achieve another title …

     

     

    Livvy 1st … as Turkeybhoy has already posted this title if we achieve it wil be very sweet …

     

    Turkeybhoy / Coatbridge CSC 🍀

  3. An Tearmann on

    Burnley78

     

     

    Do you know when(if at all) any details of cqn golf day? This year ta

     

     

    Asking for a friend

     

     

    HH

  7. 31003 on

    Looking for a memory boost here if anyone can help..

     

    My first game at Celtic Park was in ‘64

     

    I was 6 years old. My big bro (15) would take me. We walked from John Knox St, along Duke St, down Millerston st, along the Gallowgate then down Janefield St to the Celtic end. It only took about half an hour. He’d go in the boys gate and tell me to go and get a “lift ower”

     

    Following season he abandoned me because he became a Jungle boy, but, me n 2 pals would still go and get our “lift owers”

     

    Season 3 me n ma pals would do the same, Celtic End….then walk through to the Jungle

     

    At the end of the game we’d exit, then walk back up Janefield St to the Gallowgate to walk back home

     

    Following season, same again but, we were all made to wear (by our parents) construction hard hats with painted Celtic crests, shamrocks, platters names etc, just in case darts, stones or bottles should come in our direction

     

    My memory tells me, 1) on exit, you could not walk to a) the Rangers end, and b) the main stand entrance

     

    You could only walk towards the Gallowgate

     

    2) to have to wear a hard hat in the jungle, (all the weans on the front wall wore them) would mean the missiles could only come from those in the jungle

     

     

    I need my memory verified or corrected

     

    Ps…a question I’d always ask those who said were jungle boys was….where would you find the boot, the ball and the goalposts?

  8. 31003 on

    Those were the days you could go out to play at 8.00am and be back home for 9.00pm and your parents didn’t worry about you

  9. GFTB on

    BRRB 10.54p

     

     

     

    The roll of dishonour

     

     

    🍀🍀

     

     

    Every single person a total pleasure 👍🍀✔️💚

  18. An Tearmann on

    Bada

     

     

    Did you meet any ol cqn’rs there?

     

    Good few in the audience.

     

    Glad you enjoyed

     

    HH

  22. 31003 on

    Looks like you lot might have a memory like mine…I’ll ask elsewhere…I’ll let you know if I get an answer…if not…we’ll NEVER know…

  23. An Tearmann on

    3’sy

     

     

    Who were we playin in your 1st game in 64?

     

    I could try find that,the team and scorers.

     

     

    In my time hun end was always shut off in games vs the hun.

     

    Tho some older deem huns got section of old hayshed

     

    On other games you could change halfs iirc

     

    The stand was always shut off

     

    Dunno if that helps i was few yr after you mate

     

     

    HH

  24. 31003 on

    AT

     

    Thanks for answering

     

    I really have no clue who we were playing…my memory doesn’t reach that far.

     

    Reason for asking re exits…I remember having the feeling we were guided the one way out was to stop the “plebs” integrating with the hoi polloi of the main stand…ie…the then board seen us as shit

     

    And that was the days before the new stand (1969/70)

  25. 31003 on

    The ball, boot and goals were made of cobbles in a street leading to Janefield st. If you were a jungle boy at that time you knew and had seen them…it was a kind of right of passage…

     

    When someone back in the day said they were a jungle boy….they would have seen them…otherwise…they weren’t a jungle boy

  26. 31003 on

    To clarify

     

    I mean you couldn’t reach either the Rangers end or the main stand area OUTSIDE the ground once you bed exited the jungle

  29. 31003 on

    1st game was either Dundee or maybe Third Lanark….but I’m not 100% on that …I know it wasn’t Rangers…….wasn’t allowed

  31. Saint Stivs on

    The boot. The ball. The goalpost.

     

     

    Saw it a few hundred times in my young 70s life.

     

     

    Shown it. Told a story.

     

     

    Cobblestone by a Celtic supporter for jimmy Quinn hat trick in 04.

     

     

    Dig it out tomorrow.

     

     

    Still exists at the barrow field resource center

     

     

    Forklore is magical

  32. Saint Stivs on

    And. Once the railway line closed behind the Celtic end circa 1935 you could not walk from janefield street to the main stand.b

  34. 31003 on

    I actually thought the reason for not being able to walk from Janefield st to the main stand was down to the directors not wanting the plebs to integrate with the “posh nobs”

     

    Think my bro might have told me that…..

  35. Saint Stivs on

    And and.

     

     

    Quite a bit of historical revision but when the pavilion was burnt down in 1929 which really was the sacred heart of Celtic on that janefield street corner only access via holywell street or under the arch passed by quillans cooperage the old old original owners were ok to relocate to kerrydale street

  37. 31003 on

    SAINT STIVS on 30TH MARCH 2024 1:05 AM

     

     

    My abiding memory of walking down Janefield St was getting my Celtic Tammy whipped off my head by some young gadgy (circa 66/67) from Barrowfield

     

    I chased him for about 200yds through closes and back courts only to be faced by 19 of his pals….cue me sprinting a 9.8 second 100m back towards Celtic Park

  38. An Tearmann on

    Wee Fra

     

     

    2 years on from loosing your good lady Dot rip 🙏

     

    Thinking of you,and respect to your 52 years together,take care and i hope your well

     

     

    Hail Hail

  40. mncelt on

    31003

     

     

    You’re able to recall a lot more detail than I ever could, but I remember very similar trips from our home in Alexandra Parade down to Celtic Park. We often stopped to look at the Boot, Ball and Goal Posts in the cobble stones but don’t remember the street name. Always thought they were a John Thomson memorial thing.

  41. David66 on

    Good morning all from a wet 6 degree Garngad.

     

     

    What a lovely day yesterday, then I met a shower of rascals in the Shipbank.🤣

     

     

    I have an arse like a Gattling Gun this morning after being off drink for a month and dieting etc.

     

    Round 2 today in the Howgait for my sis n laws birthday.

     

     

    Then 1 more sleep bhoys to the biggest game of our season.

     

     

    COYBIG

     

     

    D. :)

  42. yorkbhoy on

    Prestonpans Bhoy

     

     

    Hope you enjoyed your trip to York… you’re always going to find a good pub.

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